| tuxd3v | golinux, this have taken me like a storm... | 00:03 |
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| tuxd3v | I disliked the way things happened in 1st April, | 00:04 |
| tuxd3v | Then Devuan Conference came, and I saw KatolaZ presentation, I accepted what he have done, | 00:05 |
| tuxd3v | some sort of a crazy thing, but I already made mines | 00:05 |
| fsmithred | tuxd3v, take a moment to grieve and then move forward | 00:06 |
| tuxd3v | And I forgot the subject, and mooved on.He has my confidence too. | 00:06 |
| tuxd3v | <fsmithred> Thanks for your advice, it will have to be that way.. | 00:11 |
| fsmithred | golinux, I couldn't find a bug report for that, but I figured out how to fix it. | 00:18 |
| golinux | fsmithred: Very clever of you. Thanks | 01:10 |
| FlibberTGibbet | thanks golinux, gnarface, fsmithred. | 11:08 |
| FlibberTGibbet | now having fun (!) with the netinst -- graphical installer failed on one of the tasksels, didn't say which, couldn't get back to that stage to deselect any of the biggies such as the DE (xfce). trying again with the netinst text-based installer | 11:09 |
| FlibberTGibbet | wtf? failing to install grub2 on a vm? | 11:24 |
| Wonka | weeell, on a xen domU for example you might not have an xvda with writable sector 0, but only xvda1, xvda2, ... | 11:24 |
| FlibberTGibbet | this is plain old virtualbox | 11:25 |
| Wonka | no immediate idea then | 11:25 |
| FlibberTGibbet | i've installed devuan on a vbox vm lots of times -- never seen this :( | 11:25 |
| xinomilo | no trouble on kvm either | 11:25 |
| FlibberTGibbet | and there's no "it failed, would you like to drop to console and have a go yourself" option :( | 11:25 |
| FlibberTGibbet | hmmm | 11:26 |
| FlibberTGibbet | would the paravirtualisation option affect this? ie. kvm vs whatever else | 11:26 |
| FlibberTGibbet | bearing in mind windows host | 11:27 |
| FlibberTGibbet | yup. after i changed back to 'default' in the paravirtualisation settings, the grub install worked | 11:55 |
| premoboss | hello. i havew to avoid tha sime children get access to the "adult" side of internet. i alreadi set up opendns into /etc/resolf.conf and change it qith chattr +i. now i will like to do more, filtering (aka: block) some youtube channels that are not the best for so young people. here the wuestion: how can i do? | 17:33 |
| fsmithred | doesn't youtube have some built-in filtering you can use? | 17:54 |
| premoboss | fsmithred, yes, but children are not registered in youtbe, so filtering, as far as i knok, cammpt be applied. in any case, for best results, i prefere a block with some filter externat to youtube, so whole tyhe pc is protect no metter what web browser is used and no matter what user is usinh the pc. | 18:14 |
| pitriss | it will be tricky with youtube.. Some vids are marked as "adult only" and they need to have age verified. But I guess you can't force kids to log in there | 18:14 |
| premoboss | i dont want force and overall i dont want thei get a account with the BB... | 18:15 |
| premoboss | Big Brother. | 18:16 |
| pitriss | Then you have no way how to do that.. As it would need some deep hacking of youtube code and writing some greasemonkey scrpts.. And again, greasemonkey can be disabled by single click, youtube's code is changing every now and then.. And legal side of this will be questionable too.. | 18:17 |
| pitriss | Legal side depends on laws that apply in country you want to do that. | 18:17 |
| premoboss | maybe some filtering with squid/privoxy? filtering words, lets say "minecraft", "funny story" and so on... | 18:18 |
| premoboss | my home is my country :-) | 18:19 |
| premoboss | noone shound force me to not filter what came inside my house, i think. | 18:19 |
| pitriss | How do you want to do that when youtube is heavily based on javascript? Proxy can'T run javascript as far as I know. | 18:19 |
| premoboss | as far as i know, dansguardian can "read and count" the words in a webpage, if the cound reach the trigger, the page is blocked. anyway my info are from some years ago, it can be outdated. | 18:21 |
| pitriss | As good start.. try to open youtubes website with javascript disabled.. I don't think there will be much content.. | 18:21 |
| premoboss | i try | 18:22 |
| premoboss | i activated noscript to block youtube, but apparently i have the usual list of video proposent in homepage of youtube. | 18:24 |
| pitriss | I just tried to open some youtube link from terminal in w3 | 18:24 |
| premoboss | no wait. | 18:24 |
| pitriss | *w3m browser | 18:25 |
| pitriss | I can see a lot of "loading..." | 18:25 |
| pitriss | so it might drastically reduce count of forbidden words | 18:25 |
| premoboss | mmm noscript eneble youtbe even if i set as "not allowed". | 18:25 |
| pitriss | try w3m or lynx or something from terminal | 18:26 |
| premoboss | ok wait. | 18:26 |
| premoboss | i see "loading" too in w3m | 18:27 |
| premoboss | lets try dillo | 18:27 |
| pitriss | thats what will be proxy seeing too as it can't run javascript.. | 18:28 |
| premoboss | are you telling that i have to filter the result of javasctipt process? | 18:29 |
| pitriss | So, as i stated before. I don't think that proxy will help you there.. Comments are loaded by javascript code, so proxy can't count how much any word will appear on that site. | 18:30 |
| Ryccardo | premoboss: check the advanced options of noscript, I think it has a default whitelist for the usual bigs | 18:30 |
| pitriss | Basically yes. | 18:30 |
| premoboss | mmm. nice fight | 18:31 |
| premoboss | Ryccardo, ok | 18:31 |
| premoboss | Ryccardo, the tab "advanced" of noscript is basically empty. | 18:32 |
| premoboss | to summarize, i wist to bloc some channels of youtube (i.e. channelnamebob") and/or some precise topics (i.e. "minecraft") | 18:33 |
| premoboss | it will be nice the block is managed not by a addon that can be disabled, it should be a sort of of proxy to do the tasks, so kids can access to youtube and mother can stay quiet. | 18:34 |
| pitriss | I understand what you want to achieve.. But I consider it as almost impossible.. You can try to count words by proxy on that remains that aren't based on youtube. It will work but will be really limited as there will be no access to the content loaded by JavaScript | 18:36 |
| pitriss | You can also try to pay for youtube api access and try to get metadata through it for each video and use them for blocking purposes. But my guess is that this solution would be painfully slow. | 18:37 |
| premoboss | i think i can try with dansguardian an set a rule to block the page as soon as it get at leat one occurrence of forbidden word. | 18:39 |
| pitriss | you can try.. | 18:39 |
| premoboss | yes | 18:39 |
| pitriss | By the way, Ca I ask what's wrong on minecraft?:) | 18:40 |
| James1138 | premoboss: what browser are you using? I believe both Firefox and Chrome have add-ons for blocking. | 19:00 |
| detha | premoboss: note that youtube insists on ssl, so your proxy cannot inspect the pages anyway unless you load some mitm cert on the client. And google/youtube/etc. probably use cert pinning | 19:00 |
| James1138 | Example of blocking based on keywords in Firefox - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keyword-blocker/?src=search | 19:04 |
| premoboss | detha, i didt know those youtube triksm thanks. | 19:09 |
| premoboss | James1138, thanks | 19:10 |
| James1138 | You're welcome. I try and contribute... feel like a bum at times just hanging out, reading but not able to help. <grin> | 19:11 |
| Evilham | James1138: :-D that's fine, at some point you'll be able to help | 19:48 |
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