libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2019-05-09

denPesright well, well i don't use newer hardware really, so i don't really need newer drivers. currently still using kernel 4.4.x release, and that's fine with me, it's just the software which i like to have newer.00:00
denPesand with buster just around the corner, it might be better to go for beowolf00:01
fsmithredI've got a beowulf install that I use a little bit. It works. There are a couple minor bugs in xfce that I can't recall right now.00:01
denPesah okay00:02
fsmithredit's still not finished, so even if stuff is working, we might break it temporarily00:02
reubyawnlively room, wishing you a happy day, bye00:02
denPeswell i use cwm,so not really an issue for me either00:02
gnarfacehave a good one reubyawn00:02
denPesbye reubyawn00:02
fsmithredgood luck00:02
denPesi'll just give it a try then,thanks00:13
KatolaZhttps://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2019-502111:26
AEonFyrHey all11:42
AEonFyrI migrated a personal gitlab omnibus CE instance from Ubuntu 14.04 to devuan ascii yesterday.11:42
AEonFyrdevuan/ascii was not natively available from the gitlab provided install script, so I used11:42
AEonFyros=debian dist=stretch which seemed the obvious choice compatibility wise.11:42
AEonFyrI didn't experience any problems with the new install and data migration and the gitlab server11:43
AEonFyrlooks quite comfortable on its new devuan ascii home.11:43
AEonFyrI'm not doing anything fancy, just a dozen or so private repo's, placed out there on the Interwebs11:43
AEonFyrfor accessibility purposes.11:43
AEonFyrThe installation added a gitlab_gitlab-ce.list into my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory with deb11:43
AEonFyrand deb-src both pointing at https://packages.gitlab.com/gitlab/gitlab-ce/debian/ stretch main11:43
AEonFyrSo future updates of gitlab omnibus package are expected to be installed along with any of the usual11:43
AEonFyrregular 'sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' mantras.11:43
AEonFyrGiven this setup, does anyone foresee any known 'gotchas' looming in my future that I might avoid by taking steps now?11:43
KatolaZAEonFyr: the gotcha is gitlab, which has become a moving target11:44
KatolaZand a quite heavy one...11:45
KatolaZapart from that, you'll probably be fine11:45
AEonFyrKatolaZ: Yes, I'm accustomed to seeing 'update asap' in my admin interface and a few hundred MB download thereafter.11:46
AEonFyrBut, they seem to be doing a good job of keeping the omnibus edition up to date and no updates have broken anything for me, so far.11:48
AEonFyrI also don't see any dependence on systemd, but I could be missing something, I didn't investigate it in depth. The installer did add a respawn entry into /etc/inittab which was a nice surprise.11:50
mtnmanhelo22:16
gnarfacegreetings22:17
gnarfaceif you have a question, it's best just to ask it22:17
gnarfacethis channel can be slow, so you might be waiting a while for a response22:17
sixwheeledbeast~ask22:25
sixwheeledbeastinfobot: do you live22:26
infobotyes, I live.22:26
sixwheeledbeast!ask22:26
infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.22:26
sixwheeledbeastah22:26
sixwheeledbeast!botsnack22:26
infobotthanks, sixwheeledbeast22:26
xrogaanKatolaZ: that's a funny CVE22:54
xrogaan"Small. Simple. Secure." and NULL password.22:56
onefangI like slow channels.  B-)23:27
Evilhamhuh, there is a bot? :-p23:33
Evilhamall this time and...23:33
Evilhamoh well :-D23:33
gnarfaceit's some freenode provided bot.  i think it's not always enabled because they don't always remember to activate it.23:34
* Xenguy thinks of Apocolypse Now and gestures "The Sirens! The sirens!!" ...23:36
* onefang wonders which bot software it is?23:41
XenguyI think maybe DocScrutinizer05 knows something of the bot.23:43
Xenguygnarface: Maybe if you ask nicely he'd bestow admin rights on you, for the bot23:43
XenguyI have been know to enjoy some (intelligent) bot play.23:44
Xenguy*known23:44
Xenguyo/~ Here comes the rain again... o/~23:45
stiltrhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobot23:45
Xenguynifty23:45
debdogo/~   <-- haha, is this the I-don't-shave-my-armpit-hair emoticon?23:46
XenguyHeh, I don't know, but in the old daze it used to try to be a musical note : -)23:47
debdogahh, hehe23:47
debdogok, now I can see it23:47
Xenguyperl in 95, this is a great read23:47
DocScrutinizer05Xenguy: what's the topic?23:48
Xenguy"The bot's main goal was to remember URLs and associate them with a descriptive name, so whenever someone needed a specific URL they could ask the bot."23:48
DocScrutinizer05infobot: source23:49
infobotTo build Debian packages from source code: first, add a deb-src line to your sources.list file.  Then "apt-get build-dep _pkg_" and "apt-get -b source _pkg_" to retrieve the build-dependencies, and the source.  The resulting .deb files will be in `pwd`.23:49
DocScrutinizer05damn23:49
XenguyDocScrutinizer05: Evilham was wondering about the bot, or onefang23:49
DocScrutinizer05infobot: owner23:49
infoboton #devuan, my owner is DocScrutinizer05, also see ~_default owner23:49
DocScrutinizer05infobot: _default owner23:49
infobotTimRiker is my owner23:49
Xenguy,snack23:50
Xenguy~snack23:50
Xenguyinfobot: snack23:50
* infobot snack? yes yeaaas yeaaaaaaaaaaas pleaaase :P23:50
DocScrutinizer05attention is ! in here, ~ everywhere else23:50
Xenguy!snack23:50
* infobot snack? yes yeaaas yeaaaaaaaaaaas pleaaase :P23:50
Xenguythanks23:50
slvrneeds a breadcrumbs.gif23:50
onefangDon't overfeed the bot, it'll get fat.23:51
DocScrutinizer05!devuan23:51
infobotdevuan  https://devuan.org literally mirrors debian in realtime ("all the same") except replacing packages with systemd-dependencies, and it introduces its own themes and branding. Also see factoid (~/!)amprolla23:51
Xenguyonefang: Duly noted23:51
gnarfacealso, before this gets off the rails too far, i'd like to mention for everyone's reference that you can /msg the bot directly and talk to it in private so as not to choke the channel log with tests23:51
Xenguygood point23:51
DocScrutinizer05!query23:51
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)23:51
onefangYeah, coz someone mentioned this is a slow channel.  lol23:52
XenguyStay 133723:52
slvris it ok to be offtopic when the channel is slow? Seems both good and bad, for reasons.23:52
Xenguygolinux will let you know when you're OT, usually23:53
XenguyAnd she will slap your wrist too23:53
gnarfaceslvr: people are reading the backlog, be polite to them and take offtopic discussion to #debianfork, the designated ranting channel23:53
gnarfacethey're trying to keep this channel clear for support23:53
golinuxThis ^^^23:53
slvrfair enough. I've found that rooms with some constant low level chatter are more friendly for newbies, but that's just me.23:54
XenguyIt's where the party is man  : -P23:54
gnarfacemost of the regulars here are in both channels23:54
onefangThat'll be why #debianfork is the one I didn't join.  lol23:54
* onefang is a compulsive reader.23:54
golinuxIt's annoying to wake up to useless chatter in the morning.23:54
DocScrutinizer05slvr: notions differ. While I appreciate a certain low social chatter, some others are more strict with "stay on topic" enforcement23:55
* Xenguy loves having #debianfork around ...23:55
DocScrutinizer05a 100% stay-on-topic channel tends to starve and finally die23:55
XenguyYeah, a little wiggle room is good, but it can sometimes be hard to know where to draw the line23:56
golinuxPlus we backup all those logs and chatter bloats them and therefore costs us.23:56
golinuxLike now?23:56
DocScrutinizer05that's duty of experienced chanops23:57
XenguyThey say diskspace is cheap, and this is just text, but alright23:57
EvilhamYeah, this one is likely 90% on-topic, it's fine :-D leave the bot topic die23:57
onefangI'm here in my new role as Devuan mirror herder in training.  Figured I should join all the support thingies.  B-)23:57
* Evilham pets onefang and hands a cookie23:58
Evilham(and remembers the backlog)23:58
Xenguyonefang: /join #debianfork23:58
onefangReminds me, I should eat some brekky.23:58
Evilham\o23:58
Xenguyo/23:58
Xenguyslvr: /join #debianfork23:59
DocScrutinizer05a generic rule for all (freenode) IRC I usually apply: any possibly off-topic chat has to stop as soon as somebody eaither complains or just starts a clearly on-topic subject23:59
onefangI thought #debianfork was more for social these days?23:59

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