libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2019-05-16

gnarfacei saw him and i'm not an OP00:00
gnarfacemaybe it's a net split issue?00:00
gnarfacealthough i am registered00:01
DocScrutinizer05Freenode does NOT filter00:55
DocScrutinizer05except for moderated mode of channel where in a certain setup only chanops can see posts of non-voiced users00:56
xrogaanI could see se7en00:56
DocScrutinizer05seems to be a problem on Hund's side00:57
DocScrutinizer05some wildcard ignore00:57
DocScrutinizer05$~a takes effect on unidentified users, sigyn is +o to see their posts nevertheless01:00
DocScrutinizer05I don't like to keep $~a permanently though, why is it set?01:01
DocScrutinizer05oh and right, ircd servers don't care about ACL, they only care about actual chan and user flags in effect01:02
DocScrutinizer05ACL is a chanserv thing01:02
DocScrutinizer05right now chanserv and Sigyn have +o, and a 6 users (still) have +v, 4 of them are a legacy from back when somebody did an annoying mass voicing01:04
DocScrutinizer05all other users are "normal" from a urc server perspective01:05
DocScrutinizer05irc, even01:05
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I got to correct myself - recently FN actually implemented some sercer side spam filters. Those shouldn't act different for what particular users (Hund vs others) see, though. If they actually did then this would be an issue to escalate to FN sysops01:14
DocScrutinizer05does any other user in here NOT see >> [15 May 2019 22:26:45] <se7en> I will see you later [15 May 2019 22:26:50] <jaromil> ok, ciao << above?01:15
DocScrutinizer05particularly those on livingstone.freenode.net (the one Hund seems to use)01:19
Syllinanyone have luck installing docker?04:33
Syllinthey have a custom apt repo but instructions assume debian and i'm a noob04:35
Syllini'll just try from here: https://download.docker.com/linux/debian/dists/stretch/stable/04:38
gnarfaceSyllin: i don't use it but i recall there's some known issue and i think there is a workaround.  not sure what.04:57
gnarfaceit might just be a non-default configuration setting, or some guest package04:57
gnarfacemaybe permissions04:57
gnarfaceor maybe you have to rebuild docker without systemd support?  anyway, someone figured it out i'm pretty sure.04:58
_abc_Hi. Can anyone tell what firefox version devuan ascii shipped with in the live edition? I've upgraded it already meanwhile and do not remember. 52.x? 57.x?10:28
_abc_What is the normal way to look this kind of thing up using debian package manager tools?10:33
xinomiloapt-cdrom live cd/iso , apt update and check apt policy 'package' afterwards (?)10:49
xinomilofirefox version 52.6.0 came with ascii according to distrowatch :)10:49
_abc_Ah yes. Thanks. xinomilo how exactly do you use distrowatch?10:52
xinomilohttps://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan10:54
xinomiloscroll down, you;ll see package versions10:54
_abc_Ah. Thanks, I did not know it can do this. Useful, bookmarked.10:55
golinuxxinomilo: distrowatch isn't reliable for package listing.   Try pkginfo.devuan.org instead,11:17
xinomilopkginfo doesn't have original live ascii versions, only current. i'm i missing something?11:19
xinomiloanyway, i never needed that, just knew distrowatch posted release versions11:20
golinuxNo it's me.  4 am here.11:24
xinomilo:)11:25
golinuxBut I do know that distrowatch has made some errors in their listings,  I need to get to bed.11:25
lruso back on the 14th, I got an email from the lts security announce list (debian), that imagemagick had a security update.  So far, that package has not been updated in devuan.  Any clues?19:54
lruI should be seeing version 8:6.8.9.9-5+deb8u16, but so far only have 1519:57
Xenguylru: I thought I did see an update for imagemagick recently (on ascii here), but I don't remember for sure at this point.20:43
XenguyAre you on ascii?  Paste your sources.list to paste.debian.net ?20:44
lruI'm on jessie, but the email was for LTS, jessie, so I figured it would propagate through devuan eventually20:44
lruI was using pkgmaster.devuan.org but tried ca.deb.devuan.org too, neither worked20:45
lruor rather, neither had updates20:45
lrudeb http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main20:45
lruthat is the security URL I use20:45
XenguyLooks good, and imagemagick is in main, so not sure what to think20:47
fsmithredlru, it's in jessie-security if you use auto.mirror.devuan.org22:48
fsmithred8:6.8.9.9-5+deb8u16 022:48
fsmithred        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security/main amd64 Packages22:48
fsmithredand don't bother with country codes on the repo - they don't do anything22:48
gnarfacewait i thought auto.mirror was deprecated?22:52
fsmithredgnarface, it was until it got updated to amprolla323:04
gnarfaceoh, cool23:04
gnarfaceso are we supposed to use that instead of deb.devuan.org again, or are they the same?23:04
fsmithredthey should be equal, and you can use either23:05
gnarfaceok, good to know23:05
fsmithredbut they aren't equal - for some reason pkgmaster lags behind packages23:05
fsmithredI'm not sure that's for all packages or just some packages23:05
fsmithredlags behind auto.mirror (=packages.devuan...)23:06
Jjp137some nvidia-related i386 packages such as libglx-nvidia0:i386 are lagging behind in pkgmaster as well23:09
Jjp137I just changed my sources.list to use packages.devuan.org and the versions that are in Debian (390.116-1) show up now23:11
fsmithredthanks, I passed that info along23:11
Jjp137np23:11
lruoy... pkgmaster was way out of date23:21
lruyes, auto.mirror shows updates for me... thanks fsmithred23:21

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