| fsmithred | yo! | 15:20 |
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| fsmithred | abcabc__, 'zat you? | 15:21 |
| abcabc__ | yep. hi | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | hi | 15:23 |
| fsmithred | I learned something about better-live-shutdown the other day | 15:23 |
| abcabc__ | hm? | 15:23 |
| fsmithred | I installed from the usb that had it configured | 15:23 |
| fsmithred | couldn't reboot the installed system | 15:23 |
| abcabc__ | why? | 15:24 |
| fsmithred | something didn't exist | 15:24 |
| fsmithred | reboot.bin maybe | 15:24 |
| fsmithred | anyway, once I remembered it was there, I fixed it. | 15:24 |
| abcabc__ | did it not get copied over? | 15:24 |
| fsmithred | not sure | 15:25 |
| abcabc__ | fixed how? | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | I'll check - that usb is running right now | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | undid the links and restored the originals | 15:25 |
| abcabc__ | ok, write it up in 5 lines if you can? | 15:25 |
| abcabc__ | oh, the system should only wodk on a live distro. Add more checks? | 15:26 |
| fsmithred | reboot points to halt, halt points to better-live-shutdown. There is no reboot.bin. Did I forget to save that? | 15:28 |
| abcabc__ | probably. | 15:28 |
| fsmithred | nope, other system has no reboot file, just a link to halt | 15:29 |
| abcabc__ | i don't remember the details now, will look tomorrow. | 15:29 |
| abcabc__ | re | 16:10 |
| ErRandir | Sorry that's config/local/*.h | 17:29 |
| [rg] | what is the status of clang in the devuan project? | 19:32 |
| fsmithred | [rg], we should have whatever debian has. | 19:37 |
| [rg] | fsmithred: same with the debian clang builds? | 19:37 |
| fsmithred | I don't know what those are | 19:37 |
| [rg] | debian archive rebuilt with clang | 19:37 |
| fsmithred | devuan ascii has the same version of clang as debian stretch | 19:38 |
| fsmithred | pkginfo.devuan.org to see what we have for packages | 19:41 |
| [rg] | no I was more wondering if there is any interest to build devuan with clang insteaf of gcc | 19:42 |
| fsmithred | I have no idea | 19:43 |
| fsmithred | we use debian tools to build packages | 19:43 |
| fsmithred | we repackage a relatively small number of packages from the debian archive | 19:44 |
| fsmithred | the rest are merged directly into devuan archive from debian | 19:44 |
| fsmithred | gotta go - back in about 15 min | 19:44 |
| booyah | is firefox RCE bug fixed? isn't in debian stable | 21:38 |
| booyah | that is sad, takes 3+ days | 21:38 |
| booyah | related: is there a solution to have programs uninstalled or disabled while they are vulnerable untill they are fixed? | 21:38 |
| TwistedFate | hi everyone | 23:35 |
| [rg] | hello | 23:35 |
| TwistedFate | will Devuan drop 32bit & multilib support like Ubuntu/Canonical? | 23:35 |
| TwistedFate | I know that Devuan severely depends on Debian itself, if Debian drops it, will Devuan follow? | 23:36 |
| [rg] | whats the login for devuan virtual disk image | 23:36 |
| golinux | I doubt it. | 23:36 |
| golinux | TwistedFate: Ubuntu is not Debian | 23:36 |
| TwistedFate | Seems like dropping 32bit/multilib is becoming a trend.. | 23:37 |
| TwistedFate | golinux: i know that | 23:37 |
| [rg] | not really | 23:37 |
| golinux | Should be in the readne at files,devuan.org or the release notes | 23:37 |
| [rg] | whoelse outside ubuntu? | 23:37 |
| TwistedFate | rg try guest guest or demo demo | 23:37 |
| TwistedFate | or live live | 23:37 |
| golinux | No way those pw | 23:38 |
| TwistedFate | [rg]: Funtoo | 23:38 |
| [rg] | interesting | 23:38 |
| golinux | devuan devuan or root toor maybe | 23:38 |
| TwistedFate | [rg]: Appl Macintosh is too, thought they don't have anything with gnu+linux | 23:38 |
| [rg] | thats an odd one, since they support multiarch | 23:38 |
| TwistedFate | [rg]: who is? | 23:38 |
| [rg] | funtoo | 23:38 |
| TwistedFate | they are not | 23:38 |
| TwistedFate | they ripped out multiarch about 6 months ago | 23:39 |
| TwistedFate | or more | 23:39 |
| [rg] | thanks golinux | 23:39 |
| [rg] | TwistedFate: oh... | 23:39 |
| [rg] | whats the point of them now? lol | 23:39 |
| golinux | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/virtual/README.txt | 23:39 |
| TwistedFate | [rg]: yep, i still haven't updated my system since | 23:40 |
| TwistedFate | so far it's working, but the old packages are starting to show age | 23:40 |
| [rg] | apple is intersting too, since it looks like they are posied to go to arm | 23:40 |
| [rg] | but their decision makes more sense | 23:41 |
| golinux | Please take this conversation to #debianfork. | 23:41 |
| golinux | It's getting OT here. | 23:41 |
| jelly | TwistedFate: debian will not drop i386 any time soon | 23:44 |
| [rg] | what vi is packaged on here? | 23:44 |
| golinux | apple is | 23:45 |
| golinux | OT here | 23:45 |
| [rg] | huh? | 23:45 |
| [rg] | i'm asking about the $editor on devuan | 23:46 |
| golinux | apple | 23:46 |
| [rg] | in all honesty im not sure what that means | 23:46 |
| jelly | [rg]: there's a dozen editors and like four builds of vim alone | 23:47 |
| fsmithred | I think vim-tiny is the one that usually gets installed | 23:47 |
| [rg] | it has color so I wanted to fiqure out which package, since vim-tiny doesnt have color highlight iirc | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | just plain vim is probably what you want | 23:49 |
| fsmithred | if I remember correctly it takes up around 75mb which is why I don't include it in live isos | 23:50 |
| fsmithred | the other 20 or so packages with vim in the name look like plugins | 23:50 |
| [rg] | ok, so the virtual images and isos are packaged differently, got it | 23:50 |
| jelly | [rg]: update-alternatives --config editor to see the current and change it | 23:51 |
| [rg] | how does devuan development work? | 23:51 |
| fsmithred | golinux tries to whip us into shape, and sometimes it works | 23:51 |
| [rg] | i'd like to contribute to something and learn, do you guys have any filesystem stuff? | 23:51 |
| fsmithred | what kind of filesystem stuff? | 23:52 |
| [rg] | any, that and block devices are my area of interest now | 23:52 |
| fsmithred | you're coming from gentoo? | 23:53 |
| * specing sends [rg] to #btrfs | 23:53 | |
| fsmithred | I thought someone was working on zfs | 23:53 |
| [rg] | nope, my brief linux history is ubuntu -> suse -> fedora, but I've been eyeing some stable OS's for some time now | 23:54 |
| [rg] | specing: you a btrfs dev? :) | 23:54 |
| [rg] | i'm reading unix and some comp arch books, I'd like to learn development, devuan is interesting since its mainline is free from systemd | 23:55 |
| fsmithred | [rg], here's one: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/zfs | 23:55 |
| specing | [rg]: no | 23:56 |
| fsmithred | and here's someone's personal project: https://git.devuan.org/cyteen/sanoid | 23:56 |
| specing | [rg]: I don't touch C any more | 23:56 |
| specing | but I use btrfs and it is the most actively developed Linux filesystem | 23:56 |
| [rg] | I was actually more interested in btrfs since suse was doing cool stuff, hence why I tried it | 23:57 |
| [rg] | is it possible to see code without signing in? | 23:57 |
| specing | What? | 23:58 |
| [rg] | those links have a devuan signin page for gitlab | 23:58 |
| fsmithred | oh, sorry | 23:59 |
| fsmithred | more links on this page: https://devuan.org/os/development | 23:59 |
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