fsmithred | I don't know if I can get there without being logged in | 00:00 |
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fsmithred | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/zfs | 00:02 |
fsmithred | hm, that's the same link again | 00:02 |
fsmithred | I got there through a startpage search without being logged in | 00:03 |
[rg] | thanks, the zfs one works | 00:04 |
fsmithred | and here are the packages we modify from debian: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages | 00:05 |
fsmithred | hang around here and in #devuan-dev | 00:05 |
fsmithred | and maybe on mailing list, too | 00:06 |
fsmithred | if you have a personal project, you can put it on git.devuan.org | 00:06 |
[rg] | cook thanks | 00:06 |
fsmithred | if it's something that existing devs think is useful enough, it might be added to repos | 00:06 |
[rg] | I am gonna do tfpd but I quite sure its already done | 00:07 |
fsmithred | look around, keep your ears open, and it will become apparent to you what you can do | 00:07 |
fsmithred | tftpd? | 00:07 |
[rg] | trivial file transfer protocol | 00:08 |
fsmithred | yeah, looks like we use whatever debian has | 00:08 |
fsmithred | 0.17-18+b2 in ascii | 00:08 |
[rg] | cheers | 00:09 |
fsmithred | take care | 00:09 |
TwistedFate | omg! devuan is working on zfs package for devuan?? | 02:20 |
fsmithred | TwistedFate, zfsutils-linux 0.7.3-3+devuan1 in ascii-backports | 02:34 |
Soo_Slow | is it generally safe to upgrade from one stable release to another? Or things may break? | 12:41 |
Soo_Slow | looking for some stable systemd-free distro to run inside virtual machine | 12:41 |
gnarface | in place of debian? | 12:42 |
gnarface | upgrading to devuan from debian is known to work | 12:42 |
Soo_Slow | no-no. Just in general | 12:42 |
Soo_Slow | upgrading from one devuan release to another | 12:42 |
gnarface | well there has only been one so far, but it didn't break anything for me | 12:43 |
r3boot | well, there are also the BSD's, if you're looking for a systemd-free distro :) | 12:46 |
fsmithred | Soo_Slow, depends somewhat on what desktop you use. XFCE gets the most testing and support. | 12:46 |
fsmithred | jessie to ascii was not bad, and the ascii to beowulf upgrades I've tried were easy. | 12:47 |
Soo_Slow | fsmithred, virtualbox installation. Just openbox+some third party application | 12:48 |
Soo_Slow | r3boot, from what I've heard, experience with running linux software on bsd systems varies dramatically | 12:49 |
r3boot | that depends on what you want to run. In my experience, all the major stuff runs unmodified | 12:50 |
r3boot | desktop-wise it'll be a bit more effort | 12:50 |
r3boot | server-wise they are mostly identical (except for extreme performance cases) | 12:50 |
r3boot | even things like wine work under BSD, and with (eg) freebsd, you even get 3d acceleration | 12:51 |
r3boot | (full disclosure, running openbsd since 2.7 and freebsd since 4.1) | 12:51 |
Soo_Slow | nah, I just need to run some desktop software which rather prone to leaking stuff (say, skype) or could benefit from a bit of hardening (browser to visit my bank's account) | 12:53 |
Soo_Slow | I already have working setup, but its arch-based. Im getting really tired of upgrading each virtual machine few times per week | 12:54 |
r3boot | Just give it a try, you might be surprised :) (otoh, skype is a wellknown pita, even under linux) | 12:55 |
Soo_Slow | r3boot, how s freebsd, in terms of resource usage? Pure arch installation with openbox eats about 135-150mb of ram (without virtualbox'es overhead - just according to htop launched on guest) | 12:56 |
* r3boot has run freebsd 9+zfs in as little as 256MB | 12:58 | |
r3boot | but it all depends on how you actually configure your system | 12:58 |
r3boot | you can take every linux/unix distro and tune that in a way that suits your needs | 12:59 |
r3boot | and since both bsd and linux run the same software (for most part), the biggest differences are the kernel, and things like package managers | 12:59 |
r3boot | performance wise, you will not notice that much, imho (if you know how to tune) | 13:00 |
r3boot | if you treat it like a desktop os (say, like how ordinary users use win/osx), then you will be disappointed tho | 13:00 |
r3boot | but, treat it like a unix workstation, and you will be mighty surprised :) | 13:00 |
nemo | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii-security/firefox-esr_60.7.1esr-1~deb9u1.html | 19:47 |
nemo | yay | 19:47 |
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