| jordila | when pressing Ctrl + Alt + F3 i would expect to switch to TTY3 virtual terminal but it is not the case... I'm wondering, umh... am i the only one experiencing such a weird behaviour ? | 11:18 |
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| fsmithred | where does it take you? | 11:21 |
| fsmithred | jordila, ^^^ | 11:22 |
| jordila | fsmithred, to a black screen | 11:29 |
| fsmithred | try booting with 'nomodeset' on the boot command. Or if you're already doing that, try without. | 11:29 |
| fsmithred | I've seen it both ways | 11:30 |
| rrq | jordila: do you have a getty/agetty on vt3? | 11:37 |
| jordila | fsmithred, after adding 'nomodeset'... and running update-grub, i've got a X resolution fall, onto just 640px. Thus i removed the 'nomodeset' option from grub . | 12:21 |
| gnarface | jordila: sounds to me like X is using the kms driver, you might have better results if you override that | 12:25 |
| gnarface | (to something video-hardware-specific) | 12:26 |
| jordila | rrq , i'm not (yet) familiar with nor have a clue whether if i have getty/agetty on vt3 ... | 12:27 |
| gnarface | ps aux |grep getty | 12:28 |
| gnarface | ? | 12:28 |
| jordila | gnarface ... ," jordi 5916 0.0 0.0 12780 968 pts/3 S+ 12:31 0:00 grep --color=auto getty" | 12:32 |
| jordila | " . And i'm not familiar with -> How to override and setup a video-hardware-speficic X ? | 12:32 |
| fsmithred | xorg.conf | 12:33 |
| jordila | ah | 12:34 |
| fsmithred | you can just have a driver section | 12:38 |
| gnarface | yea you don't need the whole thing anymore | 12:40 |
| * jordila found /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf | 12:43 | |
| * jordila ^^ Section "Device" Identifier "Intel" Driver "intel" #Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" EndSection | 12:43 | |
| fsmithred | yeah, like that | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | well, like the example file, not like it shows up in here. | 12:48 |
| gnarface | there should be a manpage for all the intel driver options | 12:51 |
| * fsmithred didn't know about 'man intel' 'man nouveau' and 'man amdgpu' | 12:56 | |
| fsmithred | thanks gnarface | 12:56 |
| gnarface | no problem | 13:06 |
| gnarface | there should also be one for generic xorg.conf options too, i think | 13:06 |
| fsmithred | yeah, that one I've seen | 13:06 |
| fsmithred | along with a bunch of other .conf man pages. I was very happy when I discovered that. | 13:07 |
| rrq | jordila: maybe you should give "man inittab" a glance as well, assuming you're using sysvinit. | 13:18 |
| rrq | the switch between vt is a kernel thing, not an X11 thing | 13:20 |
| rrq | when you run X, it shows up in one ov the vt | 13:22 |
| onefang | VT 7 usually, but you can change that. | 13:23 |
| onefang | You can even have multiple X11s on multiple VTs. | 13:24 |
| queip | is devuan's firefox still vulnerable to RCE? | 13:39 |
| queip | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2019-11708 | 13:39 |
| gnarface | (onefang i think it's VT 1 now by default) | 13:44 |
| gnarface | it was 7 for a long, long time though | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | mine are all 7 | 13:44 |
| gnarface | or maybe it's just whatever one you run it from now? | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | I did see 1 for some time | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | I think with systemd it's 1 | 13:45 |
| fsmithred | been telling people ctrl-alt-F2 for a couple of years, I think | 13:45 |
| onefang | On my ASCII desktop it's 7, but I use a custom innittab anyway, so that VT 1 retains the boot log. | 13:45 |
| rrq | it's really a decision made when starting X, e.g. by the "login manager" (slim, et al) or the hands typing startx | 13:55 |
| rrq | 7 is a traditional placement for the primary X display of a Debian system | 13:55 |
| rrq | (i.e. pre modern stuff :)) | 13:56 |
| rrq | a while ago there was an env XDG_VTNR in the xsession scripts for configuring; not sure that's still alive | 13:58 |
| queip | [01/07/2019 14:00] <queip> humpled: can you donate to debian without fear of it going to some political bullshit like debian woman | 14:00 |
| queip | [01/07/2019 14:00] [Notice] -ChanServ- You have been quieted on #debian by themill | 14:00 |
| queip | kek | 14:00 |
| queip | well, can you donate to DEVUAN then, without fear of it going to some political bullshit like debian woman | 14:05 |
| queip | ? | 14:05 |
| rrq | re XDG_VTNR: by a web search, it seems to be used on some systems still | 14:08 |
| gnarface | queip: i'm pretty sure all donations for the time being will go directly to paying the bills | 14:14 |
| gnarface | not that i know for sure | 14:14 |
| Leander | https://devuan.org/os/donate | 14:18 |
| Leander | it's all in here | 14:18 |
| Evilham | Not that it's relevant, but in general I don't think one gets to decide where money goes to after donating / paying :-) | 14:59 |
| Evilham | So if you want to give money to X and they do Y, with which you don't agree, don't give your money to X or try to make Y be sth you agree with | 15:00 |
| Evilham | That being said, there are expense reports prepared yearly by dyne, which list where money is spent at | 15:01 |
| Evilham | (dyne is the NGO that enables devuan to receive and spend money without having a legal entity, they also do other awesome things) | 15:03 |
| fsmithred | I want decode | 15:28 |
| queip | interestingly after talking about this #debian ban(quiet) on ##linux got 30 minute constant irc diconnects, oh well | 15:32 |
| queip | Evilham: why not have targeted funds | 15:32 |
| queip | like, fund for security. 100% merit. 50% security devels by merit, 50% security bounties by merit. 0% for bs | 15:33 |
| queip | personally Im rather poor, but it seems like something people might want to donate into, since it directly results in something that matters to many | 15:34 |
| queip | how is devuan going re fixing that firefox? if we would be faster than debian in such fixes it would be awesome | 15:35 |
| fsmithred | we depend on debian to fix anything that we aren't already fixing. We only fix those things that require systemd. | 15:43 |
| queip | it would be super cool if we could lead some fixes. I guess the problem ofc is lack of skilled security maintainers? | 16:02 |
| gnarface | small team still https://devuan.org/os/team/ | 16:05 |
| gnarface | Debian has a lot more resources | 16:05 |
| onefang | Hmmm, I've not been added to that list yet. I'm a recent addition to the team. | 16:31 |
| Evilham | this is a pointless topic: budgets get done based on some money being available and some needs, and money is not assigned per-topic previously, think taxes; donations are the same except voluntarily given. If at any point you see money being spent where you don't like it, get involved to change that or stop donating. | 17:02 |
| Evilham | atm nobody gets paid to work on devuan directly and most things do come verbatim from debian (that's kind of the point) | 17:04 |
| Centurion_Dan | Evilham: Also be aware, that under law in certain jurisdictions - perhaps universally, if the giver gets to direct how the funds they give are directed, then it's not a donation for charitable purposes. | 21:38 |
| Evilham | Yes :-D that too | 21:39 |
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