golinux | enyc: Here's the list of banned packages https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 00:09 |
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golinux | So that's not an issue. But depending on your usecase, there could be some bugs not systemd related. | 00:10 |
fsmithred | enyc, did you try the upgrade yet? | 00:13 |
drawkula | $ ncomm packages.destiny packages.devuan3-amd64 packages.devuan3-i386 | fgrep -i systemd | wc -l | 00:33 |
drawkula | 0 | 00:33 |
drawkula | 2 VMs and one netbook... with XFCE and no systemd found in their packages lists | 00:34 |
drawkula | (here VMs are named after the OS+arch, real hardware has real names...) | 00:35 |
gmcastil | just reinstalled the latest version of devuan ascii - in addition to ascii, ascii-updates, and ascii-security what other repos should i add as well? | 01:18 |
gmcastil | is there a commonly used repo for things like chrome? | 01:21 |
fsmithred | gmcastil, that covers it unless you need something from backports | 01:22 |
fsmithred | chromium is in main, chrome I guess you would get from google. | 01:22 |
gmcastil | when i first used devuan a couple years ago, i seem to remember having to add other stuff | 01:22 |
gmcastil | but we dont include the debian repos right? | 01:22 |
fsmithred | maybe had to remove some stuff too | 01:22 |
fsmithred | no, just use devuan. amprolla will merge the stuff from debian | 01:23 |
fsmithred | through a filter that's not shaped like a D | 01:23 |
gmcastil | weird....the devuan installer blew away my entries in /boot that lets me dual boot the machine | 04:21 |
plasma41 | gmcastil: Was this the debian-installer from the install iso or the refracta-installer from the live iso? | 04:33 |
gmcastil | the refracta-installer | 04:35 |
gmcastil | it only took a couple minutes to fix | 04:36 |
gmcastil | but still, i was a bit surprised that it didnt preserve the existing windows 7 menuentry | 04:36 |
plasma41 | fsmithred: gmcastil had an issue with your installer ^ | 04:38 |
fsmithred | what's up? | 04:39 |
fsmithred | gmcastil, did you select a separate boot partition? | 04:39 |
gmcastil | no | 04:40 |
fsmithred | it only does things to partitions you select | 04:41 |
gmcastil | i previously installed jessie and replaced it with a live install of ascii | 04:41 |
fsmithred | but if you let it install the bootloader to mbr, it will replace whatever is there | 04:41 |
gmcastil | when it configures grub, does it look in the previous grub.cfg for the existence of other entries? | 04:42 |
fsmithred | no | 04:42 |
fsmithred | it just does the normal update-grub | 04:42 |
fsmithred | so it should make entries for all the installed systems | 04:42 |
fsmithred | actually, it might look at any grub.cfg it finds. How it finds things is a mystery. | 04:43 |
gmcastil | huh, well it missed muy existing entry for windows 7 | 04:43 |
gmcastil | nbd, i fixed it | 04:43 |
gmcastil | i was just surprised that was the behavior | 04:44 |
enyc | fsmithred: yes | 12:08 |
enyc | fsmithred: I had issues relating to locally installed old packages or held packages | 12:08 |
enyc | fsmithred: therefore, couldn't really come to too many conclusions about upgradability of ascii-native install | 12:09 |
fsmithred | enyc, did you install a full desktop from an installer iso? | 12:09 |
enyc | fsmithred: did a lot of apt-get --purge autoremove and deborphan | xargs dpkg -P | 12:09 |
fsmithred | if so, you might have a problem with task-whatever-desktop | 12:09 |
enyc | fsmithred: not sure, if I did was ages ago, before upgrade and upgrade-again | 12:09 |
enyc | fsmithred: I do NOW have task-mate-desktop installed and working | 12:10 |
fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep task- | 12:10 |
fsmithred | will show you | 12:10 |
enyc | yes indeed i know | 12:10 |
enyc | also can run 'tasksel' | 12:10 |
enyc | in any case, I can say I have jessie->ascii->beowulf working via upgrade route | 12:11 |
fsmithred | yeah, but you're better off without the task- packages right now | 12:11 |
fsmithred | cool | 12:11 |
enyc | well | 12:11 |
enyc | i actually removed the task-mate-desktop and removed lots of xfce4 and mate stuff before upgrading | 12:11 |
enyc | and various older things and so on | 12:11 |
enyc | then upgraded | 12:11 |
enyc | then re-instated task-mate-desktop | 12:11 |
fsmithred | the beowulf version might not be ready | 12:12 |
enyc | right yes | 12:12 |
fsmithred | might have some wrong deps | 12:12 |
enyc | though, it SEEMSN to be working | 12:12 |
enyc | is all i'm saying | 12:12 |
fsmithred | understood | 12:12 |
* enyc checks some auto-mointing ... | 12:12 | |
enyc | th'ts behaving... | 12:14 |
enyc | used to have problems there | 12:14 |
fsmithred | great | 12:14 |
enyc | deps-wise, I'd check on things like reminders about elogind vs polkit and whatever else | 12:14 |
* fsmithred hates pokit | 12:15 | |
enyc | =) | 12:15 |
fsmithred | plkti | 12:15 |
fsmithred | polkit | 12:15 |
enyc | but there will be people who have it | 12:15 |
enyc | and so on | 12:15 |
fsmithred | I have it | 12:15 |
onefang | Hate it so much you can't even type it. | 12:16 |
enyc | yes, mee to =) | 12:16 |
omnio | guys, when I install devuan using the livecd (refracta installed) and I log in on tty1 (no X), the drawed lines in mc look odd, they have strange characters | 15:41 |
omnio | I can overcome this by using "mc -a" but I was wondering what's the cause, maybe some env variable? | 15:41 |
omnio | I mean refracta installer (not installed) | 15:41 |
fsmithred | omnio, install libgtk3-perl | 15:41 |
fsmithred | I think that's the right package - let me check | 15:41 |
fsmithred | yeah, that's the right package | 15:43 |
omnio | fsmithred, thanks a lot | 15:43 |
fsmithred | omnio, that's the wrong fix | 15:44 |
fsmithred | that's for graphical debconf windows instead of ncurses | 15:44 |
omnio | oh ok | 15:45 |
fsmithred | run 'dpg-reconfigure console-setup' and change "Fixed" font to "VGA" | 15:45 |
fsmithred | wait | 15:45 |
fsmithred | that might not be right, but it's closer | 15:45 |
fsmithred | need more coffee here | 15:45 |
omnio | hehe. thank you very much | 15:46 |
fsmithred | ok, it's either VGA or selecting UTF-8 that fixes is | 15:46 |
fsmithred | I think it's UTF-8 | 15:46 |
fsmithred | or set CHARMAP="UTF-8" in /etc/default/console-setup | 15:47 |
fsmithred | and then restart console-setup (dpkg-reconfigure does this automatically) | 15:47 |
gnarface | dpkg-reconfigure locales | 15:49 |
gnarface | maybe? | 15:49 |
omnio | I'll try these things. Thanks guys, this is useful on my old machines | 15:51 |
fsmithred | it's console-setup. It'll be fixed in the point-release. | 15:53 |
concatime | Hi folks. Why am I getting couldnt look up for your hostname. | 22:51 |
concatime | Freenode works | 22:52 |
concatime | LOL, sorry | 22:57 |
concatime | Wrong channel | 22:57 |
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