Centurion_Dan | drawkula: isn't sawfish proprietary?? | 04:35 |
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drawkula | https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/s/sawfish/sawfish_1.11.90-1.1_copyright | 04:43 |
agris | Has anyone here used SELinux in enforcing mode in Devuan/Debian | 06:04 |
agris | Is there better support for SE or AA in Deb | 06:05 |
agris | I know that RedHat's in the SE camp and Ubuntu is in the AA camp | 06:05 |
agris | I've tried AA in Devuan, and It definitely needs some work done to it | 06:05 |
agris | and Gentoo is in the SE camp as well | 06:05 |
golinux | In all my years here, I don't remember discussions about either | 06:07 |
agris | hmm | 06:07 |
agris | I mean technically both are "supported" in Debian and Gentoo but at least in gentoo SELinux is a first class citizen while AppArmor is second class | 06:08 |
EHeM | I fear this is an illegal question, but is there any speculation as to releasing Beowulf? | 06:15 |
gnarface | no news | 06:18 |
agris | some packages are not done yet | 06:29 |
agris | bte | 06:30 |
agris | btw | 06:30 |
agris | the amd64 build machine has been stuck on reading the package database for the whole day now | 06:30 |
EHeM | I figured, kind of hoped there might be guesses as to timeframe (order of magnitude ideally, month? months? year? years?). | 06:31 |
agris | https://ci.devuan.org/job/mariadb-10.3-binaries/architecture=amd64,label=amd64/1/console | 06:31 |
agris | EHeM, no timeframe | 06:31 |
agris | if there's software you need I''d reccomend building a backport | 06:32 |
EHeM | The number I would need to rebuild would be kind of large. As such I hope to be able to wait. | 06:39 |
Hurgotron | I'm having issues with unresponsive xterms every now and then. Never had the before Devuan... does anyone have similar experiences? | 14:18 |
debdog | Hurgotron: wild guess: ctrl-q | 15:20 |
debdog | (which is required if you accidentally hit ctrl-s) | 15:23 |
Hurgotron | debdog: not really. blank window, cursor disappears if moved over window, even clikcing the window shut does not (immediately) work | 15:24 |
Hurgotron | looks crashed to me. | 15:24 |
debdog | huh, never saw that before | 15:24 |
Hurgotron | me neither, but since I had that a few times by now, it seems t be more than a glitch. | 15:25 |
debdog | what does *top say about that process when it happens? could even be the grafics driver | 15:26 |
Hurgotron | process is gone now, but no unusual load, no errors in dmesg | 15:27 |
errandir1 | Cold be bash completion going out of control | 15:37 |
Hurgotron | Blank windows and mouse cursor diappearing? sounds unlikely. | 15:39 |
r3boot | Try to start one of the failing terms from within a working term, and catch the error | 15:39 |
r3boot | Alternatively (if that's still a thing with devuan), check ~/.xsession-errors | 15:40 |
Hurgotron | ah didn't think of .xsession-errors yet, right. Unfortunately I can't reproduce the issue, seems to be a random think,. So far I thought it was a timing issue from too much output over ssh, but last time the xterm got stuck it was just a CTRL-D to close it. | 15:44 |
Hurgotron | *thing | 15:44 |
debdog | hmm, if ctrl-d works, xterm is not frozen entiirely. is maybe nfs involved? | 15:50 |
Hurgotron | I mean, it got unresponsive after ctrl-d. Local shell, no nfs. | 15:52 |
debdog | ahh | 15:52 |
nemo | Hurgotron: I had a problem a long time ago w/ vanishing cursors | 16:00 |
nemo | Hurgotron: was a buggy AMD graphics driver + compiz | 16:01 |
nemo | fglrx I believe | 16:01 |
nemo | Hurgotron: you using compositing? | 16:01 |
Hurgotron | no compositing... Nvidia card | 16:02 |
Hurgotron | and the cursor just disappears (temporarily) when positioned over the unresponive xterm. | 16:02 |
nemo | Hurgotron: using X11 I assume? | 16:04 |
Hurgotron | Yes | 16:04 |
nemo | I mean without compositing kinda must be ☺ | 16:04 |
nemo | Hurgotron: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/1387219 vaguely similar bug. dunno | 16:17 |
nemo | Hurgotron: DDG'd for the heck of it | 16:18 |
Hurgotron | well, xterm doesn't really have a lot to do with gtk... | 16:21 |
Hurgotron | I'll try to come up with a way of creating and quitting lots of xterms to see if some of them get stuck, to I hopefully will have a way or reproducing the issue eventually. | 16:22 |
rwp | xterm is just hosting the shell (bash there?) and so if control-d exited bash then bash was still responsive. | 16:43 |
nemo | Hurgotron: well. the last comment seemed possibly relevant which was why I linked it | 16:51 |
nemo | Hurgotron: but yeah. no idea really | 16:51 |
nemo | it used to happen to me in gnome terminal and firefox and libreoffice when I had my graphics card issues | 16:51 |
amdgoon | When starting irssi my config file has a few linux channels that are autojoined. eg. debian, debian-next,gentoo,manjaro... The manjaro channel always bounces me to manjaro-unregistered, saying I need to register my nick with freenode. I believe I have done this and am confused as to how to verify this. | 17:52 |
amdgoon | Can someone assist me? | 17:52 |
amdgoon | drat, sorry wrong channel... | 17:52 |
furrywolf | you need to set your irc client to identify to nickserv and wait for a reply before joining any channels, or identify at connect with sasl | 18:04 |
amdgoon | thanks furrywolf, went the sasl route | 19:03 |
amdgoon | the wait was likely too short at 2 seconds, advice from #freenode said use sasl | 19:04 |
buZz | is there still that policykit-1 issue on dist-upgrading ascii to beowulf? | 20:22 |
fsmithred | buZz, I don't think so. Not sure which issue you mean, but I did a couple upgrades a few days ago, and they went smoothly. | 20:25 |
buZz | sounds good | 20:33 |
* buZz xkill's webbrowser and goes to try | 20:33 | |
fsmithred | watch out for task-<desktop>-desktop packages | 20:33 |
buZz | not sure if i have any | 20:33 |
fsmithred | did you install a desktop through tasksel? | 20:33 |
fsmithred | through the installer? | 20:34 |
buZz | task-console-productivity task-english task-ssh-server | 20:34 |
buZz | nope :P | 20:34 |
fsmithred | those should be ok | 20:34 |
fsmithred | oh yeah, when it hangs on boot for ssh server, the fix is to install haveged | 20:34 |
buZz | i'll do that ahead then ;) | 20:35 |
fsmithred | other way is to press some keys to generate entropy | 20:35 |
fsmithred | I always press them randomly. | 20:35 |
buZz | ah hehe, invalid ; deb http://nl.deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main non-free contrib | 20:35 |
fsmithred | ;0 | 20:35 |
buZz | ^_^ | 20:36 |
fsmithred | yeah, I don't think we have beowulf-backports yet | 20:36 |
buZz | 2420 upgraded, 695 newly installed, 106 to remove and 15 not upgraded. | 20:36 |
fsmithred | nor beowulf-updates | 20:36 |
buZz | exciting | 20:36 |
fsmithred | lotta packages there | 20:36 |
b3bgd | Hello. Do you know if registering to the Devuan git repo (git.devuan.org) actually sends the confirmation email? I tried 3 or 4 times in the last 24 hours, but got nothing. If yes, from what email address should I receive it? | 20:45 |
golinux | b3bgd: pm | 20:56 |
golinux | b3bgd: ^^^ | 20:59 |
b3bgd | Thank you golinux :) | 21:11 |
buZz | lol still downloading | 23:37 |
buZz | :P | 23:37 |
buZz | flightgear-data-base | 23:38 |
buZz | yeahhh.. could have uninstalled that ^_^ | 23:38 |
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