| gnarface | eyalroz: yea starcraft2 still works for me in winehq-staging. performance is garbage without d9vk though (and a couple other associated winetricks to make it work) | 00:43 |
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| gnarface | ymmv (i'm using nvidia) | 00:43 |
| eyalroz | gnarface: Which card are you using? | 00:49 |
| eyalroz | also - have you tried it with a virtual machine instead? | 00:50 |
| gnarface | eyalroz: i have not, and the card is sufficiently ancient that i'm impressed with vulkan->d3d translation tech | 00:58 |
| gnarface | (GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost) | 00:58 |
| eyalroz | Ah. I have a recent GTX 1050 Ti, so maybe it'll work better for me. But... I was disheartened by the i386 dependency troubles. | 00:58 |
| gnarface | a 2GB card | 00:58 |
| gnarface | if you had multi-arch enabled right, then it must be some distro/repo mixing version conflicts, that's all i can suspect | 00:59 |
| gnarface | well | 00:59 |
| eyalroz | I'd probably better not waste time playing it right now anyway, so maybe it's for the best... | 01:00 |
| gnarface | or the one other thing is you just don't have any of the dependencies already installed, and they're not in the winehq repo to get. in that case, what worked for me is to install the wine-development package from the devuan repos then REMOVE it but leave all it's dependencies (they're mostly the same as for winehq-staging) | 01:00 |
| eyalroz | btw - do you know when is the beowulf release due? | 01:00 |
| gnarface | i do not. i don't think there's any official due date yet | 01:00 |
| eyalroz | Isn't that strange, considering Buster has been out for 2 months already? | 01:01 |
| eyalroz | Oh, it looks like DebConf20 is supposed to be held in my hometown. | 01:05 |
| eyalroz | This is bad. | 01:05 |
| fsmithred | jessie was two years late | 01:05 |
| fsmithred | ascii was a year late | 01:05 |
| fsmithred | beowulf is likely to be about six months late (maybe by end of year) | 01:05 |
| fsmithred | unofficial projections ^^^ | 01:06 |
| Simeon2 | why is that bad eyalroz | 01:06 |
| Simeon2 | beowulf 'release' is kind of symbolic, isn't it (it just works here) | 01:06 |
| eyalroz | Simeon2: Because it violates the Palestinian academic and cultural boycott of Israeli institutions, and now, | 01:07 |
| eyalroz | I have to try and protest, and get the Debian bodies to change venue, while undermining some people whom I know and am on somewhat friendly terms with. | 01:07 |
| fsmithred | yuk | 01:08 |
| eyalroz | Simeon2: About the beowulf release - peopel who try Devuan will look at the release version. If it's based on Debian 9, then it's ancient package versions. Debian 10 - tolerably old... | 01:08 |
| fsmithred | good luck | 01:08 |
| Simeon2 | that's a fair point eyalroz re releases | 01:08 |
| Simeon2 | and of course it's anyone's right to boycott whatever they want | 01:09 |
| Simeon2 | but the politics behind such boycotts is solidly offtopic | 01:09 |
| eyalroz | Simeon2: You mean, for this channel? Ok, sure, I won't open up that discussion here. If anyone wants to say something about it please message me personally. | 01:11 |
| golinux | Or post on #debianfork | 01:24 |
| Simeon2 | eyalroz: i grabbed a package from debian sid that i need for browser update, which isn't yet in beowulf | 01:24 |
| golinux | eyalroz: ^^^ | 01:25 |
| golinux | Look in ceres - sid | 01:25 |
| Simeon2 | libsqlite3-0 | 01:25 |
| Simeon2 | i grabbed the source packages but dpkg-buidpackage fails for me (have done build-dep) | 01:25 |
| golinux | Simeon2: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=libsqlite3-0&release=any | 01:26 |
| golinux | Available via Devuan repos. | 01:26 |
| Simeon2 | oh ceres eh ty | 01:26 |
| Simeon2 | goes to show how little i know about devuan | 01:26 |
| golinux | https://devuan.org/os/releases | 01:27 |
| specing | Can anyone explain why useradd makes mode 755 home directories? | 01:27 |
| golinux | Noy I | 01:27 |
| golinux | Not I | 01:27 |
| Simeon2 | should i add experimental to sources.list? or sed -e 's/beowulf/ceres/g' it? | 01:31 |
| Simeon2 | i usually ran with 'sid' | 01:31 |
| golinux | Only if you want to test new Devuan packages. I have used it once or twice | 01:36 |
| g4570n | Simeon2: add ceres repos togheter with ASCII o Beowulf, and then: apt update && apt install libsqlite3-0 -t ceres | 01:36 |
| Simeon2 | oh i didn't know -t thanks | 01:37 |
| golinux | I recommend to NOT mix releases | 01:37 |
| gnarface | specing: ancient linux default. something about inter-user communication stuff (.plan files and such i think) i change them all to 0700 myself too | 01:38 |
| golinux | But then I'm still running jessie | 01:38 |
| g4570n | Simeon2: it's will be an FranksDevuan 😆 | 01:38 |
| gnarface | specing: sorry, actually ancient *unix* default | 01:38 |
| gnarface | specing: this software was originally designed for scientific collaboration on shared mainframes, remember | 01:38 |
| golinux | gnarface to the rescue | 01:38 |
| Simeon2 | i switched an nvidia jetson from ubuntu to devuan without rebooting :) fun stuf | 01:38 |
| Simeon2 | well in the end i did reboot but it werked! | 01:39 |
| gnarface | specing: note that "useradd" is part of the generic user/group manipulation set. i think it's only there for legacy reasons (posix compatibility?) use "adduser" instead. it's "debianized" and should have some config somewhere that you can change defaults with | 01:42 |
| gnarface | (that's the old "debianized" from before that was a bad thing) | 01:42 |
| gnarface | yea, /etc/adduser.conf | 01:43 |
| gnarface | everything is in there, including default permissions | 01:43 |
| gnarface | actual base files in /etc/skel/ | 01:43 |
| specing | Well.. that is not good, but okay | 02:10 |
| Simeon2 | g4570n: i have updated Get:43 http://deb.devuan.org/devuan ceres/main amd64 Contents (deb) [22.0 kB] and apt install libsqlite3-0 -t ceres returns libsqlite3-0 is already the newest version (3.27.2-3) (?) | 02:21 |
| gnarface | specing: it's probably a good idea to disable remote root login, too | 02:23 |
| gnarface | but that does break kerberos | 02:23 |
| gnarface | with defaults like that it's probably a lot about what breaks when you change it | 02:24 |
| g4570n | Simeon2: try apt install libsqlite3-0=3.29.0-2 | 02:24 |
| Simeon2 | not found.. | 02:25 |
| * Simeon2 ponders | 02:25 | |
| g4570n | change: http://deb.devuan.org/merged repo | 02:26 |
| g4570n | for ceres | 02:26 |
| gnarface | specing: but yea, the default install is totally not secure in a bunch of places. they do assume a certain level of trust among the users of the machine by default | 02:27 |
| specing | >_> | 02:29 |
| gnarface | specing: seriously, disable remote-root login for ssh. you should probably disable password auth too and just use keys, after the initial setup. | 02:53 |
| gnarface | specing: sudo can be a risk too | 02:53 |
| gnarface | i would advise just not even having it installed unless you really know what you're doing with it | 02:54 |
| gnarface | there's actually not a ton to do but there is that | 02:55 |
| gnarface | and if you need even further granular security, adding people to something like a generic "video" group isn't ideal because that still gives them access to ALL devices, so you will probably want to create a few groups of your own if this is really a shared system... | 02:55 |
| gnarface | *all video devices, anyway | 02:56 |
| gnarface | there's no way to make really secure defaults against stuff like that and be fair to all use cases | 02:57 |
| gnarface | some amount of customization is typically required, that's as designed ... | 02:57 |
| Simeon2 | good points gnarface ty for info | 03:35 |
| Simeon2 | From the 'Problems We Do Not Have' archive - uresolved systemd bug from 2015 unmounts disks immediately after mount: https://www.bentasker.co.uk/documentation/linux/480-disk-automatically-unmounts-immediately-after-mounting | 03:58 |
| golinux | Simeon2: systemd chatter belongs on #debianfork :) | 04:48 |
| Simeon2 | ty | 04:49 |
| systemdlete | free_speech, Digit: If I may -- and I know that thread is now 15 hours ago, but... -- I think the reason for fixed release distros is that many of us require a certain amount of stability for the application workload on the servers running them. | 05:55 |
| systemdlete | There is, of course, a tradeoff between ease-of-use and stability. I acknowledge that. | 05:55 |
| systemdlete | I worked in a brokerage firm and it was a strict requirement that any changes going in to our production system had to first soak in a system test environment, and that could be weeks at a time. OS upgrades were planned months in advance to ensure that the changes would not break the code that was delivering millions of dollars a minute to traders. (Which is how I earned a paycheck, by supporting those systems. Traders, | 05:57 |
| systemdlete | funny way they are, get annoyed quickly by technical problems.) | 05:57 |
| systemdlete | At home here, I run Devuan as my host OS platform, knowing that if I need to update, say, virtualbox I don't have to worry that some library updates, along with some desktop updates, and who knows what else, will destabilize my system. I HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THAT HAPPEN. | 05:58 |
| systemdlete | So I prefer the more conservative approach for my host. But that doesn't mean that my VMs have to run fixed releases... I can run artix or anti-x in a VM and if that VM has issues with a vbox update, well, it's just vbox and probably just that VM (usually). For me, it's a way of segregating debugging scenarios (the answer to "what went wrong there?") | 06:00 |
| systemdlete | So, if you work in one of those types of environments where the user community you are supporting just doesn't have time for you to back out the latest OS update and reboot and recompile stuff, maybe re-link, etc etc etc | 06:02 |
| systemdlete | you might want to use a fixed release distro. It's not a sin for me to run a rolling release distro in a VM because anything that goes kabonk is limited to just that region. It doesn't break every other subsystem and VM (usually). | 06:03 |
| systemdlete | I don't normally run applications directly on the host OS; I run various tools and the like in various VMs, where I have customized those VMs to my particular liking in each case. Having multiple VMs allows me to quickly switch back and forth as needed. | 06:05 |
| systemdlete | So, in sum, it is not either-or, right-vs-wrong. It's applicability to a set of requirements in particular environments. | 06:06 |
| * systemdlete bows and takes his seat again | 06:06 | |
| * Digit starts reading, n thinks it's all on track with the obvious things to say about that, nods, and presumes the rest carried on likewise | 06:10 | |
| systemdlete | tl;dr? | 06:10 |
| systemdlete | :D | 06:10 |
| Digit | got a lot of that about at the moment. heh. sry. ;] | 06:10 |
| systemdlete | nw | 06:10 |
| systemdlete | just felt like "weighing in" | 06:10 |
| Digit | :) | 06:10 |
| free_speech | systemdlete, you _*can*_ rollback rolling release distros if an upgrade breaks anything ... all you need for this is a snapshot-supporting filesystem - in case of a GNU/Linux - distro, BtrFS might be the filesystem of your choice ... in case of a *BSD, it's ZFS | 06:27 |
| onefang | Or if using a VM host that supports it. I know QEMU can run a base image file and a changes image file. You can merge the current set of changes to the base, or just zap the changes. | 06:29 |
| systemdlete | free_speech: How would you know precisely WHAT to roll back though? If a swarm of new features and (supposed) bug fixes come through at once -- and they usually do -- one might spend hours trying to figure out what changed since the last update, and that can include updated data files created by those upgrades. | 06:29 |
| systemdlete | onefang: Yes, that works well for VMs. I often snapshot a VM before applying an upgrade I feel uncertain about. | 06:30 |
| onefang | Then you just answered your own question. B-) | 06:31 |
| systemdlete | I think there may be tools for doing likewise on the host. But that isn't the point: even in the strict environments I have worked in, it was the time element that was crucial. | 06:31 |
| onefang | It's the same with a snapshot file system, you snapshot before the upgrade, then roll back if it borks. | 06:31 |
| systemdlete | right. But I have seen situations where an update to data files makes it virtually impossible to go back. Case in point: VirtualBox VM disk images. There have been upgrades where the formats changed a bit and we were warned by their support that an image might become unusable after an update. And that is regardless of snapshots. | 06:32 |
| systemdlete | I don't recall when that was, but it was several point releases back. | 06:33 |
| systemdlete | You see, I really don't mind if my host OS doesn't have all the latest bells and whistles. It is simply a resource manager, and as long as it is still in LTS, fine. | 06:34 |
| systemdlete | I can enjoy dabbling in the latest way-kewl 'wares in VMs. Which is what I do. | 06:34 |
| systemdlete | And keep in mind that even Devuan allows you to add more recent package updates if that is what you want to do. | 06:35 |
| onefang | Yep, backports, or adding PPAs. | 06:36 |
| systemdlete | so not a problem | 06:36 |
| systemdlete | Have you looked at some of the other distros like anti-x and artix, or maybe parabola or hyperbola? They're good and rolling release. You always have the latest and greatest (and any headaches that go along with those of course). | 06:37 |
| systemdlete | I have found artix to be solid, but anti-x I have had a few issues with. I think it needs a fresh install. | 06:37 |
| systemdlete | I am updating or rebuilding other things right now, and I really don't have the wherewithal to sit long periods doing all this. | 06:38 |
| systemdlete | (priorities) | 06:38 |
| onefang | I have a micro-SD card with about 20 distros on it I use for various reasons, that I call magic pixie dust. It includes some rolling release style distros. | 06:38 |
| systemdlete | those distros I named are all non-systemd | 06:38 |
| systemdlete | I leave my host up 24. I reboot hardware rarely. don't need to. | 06:39 |
| onefang | Eventually every rolling release distro on it needed a re-install. lol | 06:39 |
| systemdlete | yes, I have discovered that as well. | 06:39 |
| onefang | I leave my main desktop up all the time to. Magic Pixie Dust is for use on other systems. | 06:40 |
| systemdlete | Imagine those in a serious production environment like a hospital surgery | 06:40 |
| systemdlete | oh I see. | 06:40 |
| onefang | That's why it's a micro-SD card, I carry it in my wallet, along with a tiny micro-SD to USB converter. | 06:41 |
| systemdlete | I've also run into serious internal incompatibilities with packages on rolling releases. | 06:41 |
| systemdlete | One distro -- don't recall which now, this was back around 2005? -- applied a system library update to my installation and then broke it. | 06:42 |
| onefang | Devuan is the main distro on Magic Pixie Dust, most of the rest are either specialised, or so I can try out things. | 06:42 |
| systemdlete | I tried numerous things to breathe life back into it, but after a week of feeling very frustrated, partly by the fact that the distro maintainers did not know what the issue was, | 06:43 |
| systemdlete | So... like you, I ended up re-installing. Amazingly enough, after I applied the SAME exact updates to the re-install, everything worked fine. (I think it had to do with the video now that I think of it) | 06:43 |
| systemdlete | Clearly, I had reset SOMEthing | 06:44 |
| systemdlete | But I never figured out what that thing was. | 06:44 |
| systemdlete | I'm not a fixed-release bigot, honestly. Some of my favorite distros are rolling release. No, really. | 06:45 |
| free_speech | I am a strict fixed-release bigot when it comes to running a Server ... imagine a rolling release on a server and any upgrade breaks anything relevant for the server's purposes ... | 06:56 |
| free_speech | if you know what I intend to express :-) | 06:57 |
| onefang | Devuan stable on servers where I have a choice. B-) | 06:57 |
| free_speech | I ordered a server some days ago and will pay my first fee on tuesday ... the server is shutdown at the moment since there's a Debian installed by default ... I'll switch it to Devuan then :-) | 06:59 |
| free_speech | systemd on a server is even more a sin than systemd on a workstation | 06:59 |
| free_speech | fact | 06:59 |
| Xenguy | New install of ascii on a new laptop here | 07:16 |
| Xenguy | So far so good | 07:16 |
| Xenguy | Takes awhile to rebuild everything | 07:17 |
| Xenguy | I tried an olde trick that used to work, but I got errors this time: dpgk set-selections < somefile.txt | 07:18 |
| Xenguy | So currently just going through the list and cherrypicking software to install | 07:18 |
| free_speech | Xenguy, how about apt install $(cat somefile.txt) ? | 07:30 |
| free_speech | however ... my current timezone is UTC+0200 ... let me have my breakfast coffee and my breakfast nicotine first :-) | 07:32 |
| Xenguy | free_speech: No idea, but thanks for the suggestion | 07:33 |
| Xenguy | It always bothers me when tried and true methods don't work, but I may have screwed it up somehow | 07:34 |
| Xenguy | It doesn't really matter as per the perlmongers saying, TMTOWTDI (there's more than one way to do it), especially with Linux | 07:35 |
| onefang | What? No breakfast, er, breakfast? Breaking a fast, eating food coz you just spent the last eight hours fasting, coz you where sleeping. B-) | 07:35 |
| Simoen2 | woo that was a bit interesting (beowulf->ceres) | 10:24 |
| Simoen2 | kernel 5.2 seems to lack nvidia modules | 10:25 |
| Simoen2 | back on 4.19.0-6 and nvidia-legaxy-390xx, but xorg has huge cpu use | 10:25 |
| Simoen2 | fun fun :) | 10:25 |
| irssi3 | RMS is gone? | 11:16 |
| onefang | Maybe he went to #debianfork? Try looking for him there. | 11:17 |
| irssi3 | he quit the FSF | 11:17 |
| onefang | (In other words, this is the support channel, #debianfork is the discussion channel. Please have your off topic discussions there instead of here. Thank you.) | 11:18 |
| irssi3 | seems everyone is happy about it | 11:18 |
| irssi3 | you linux assholes are scum | 11:18 |
| jelly | onefang: they've done this schtick on #debian as well, best ignore them | 11:21 |
| irssi3 | jelly: you're with debian against RMS now? | 11:22 |
| irssi3 | wtf | 11:22 |
| irssi3 | thought this was #devuan | 11:22 |
| irssi3 | Debian is like "RMS" "never heard of him" | 11:23 |
| irssi3 | I remeber when debian was the most pro RMS place | 11:24 |
| free_speech | no, he did *NOT* quit the FSF ... he stepped back as the LEADER of the FSF ... that's a difference | 11:26 |
| Wonka | .oO( the version number tag is "dfsg", not "trueRMS" ) | 11:26 |
| irssi3 | he quit because some woman complained | 11:26 |
| irssi3 | I thought he was a Jew, not an American | 11:27 |
| free_speech | as the leader he quit ... as an fsf member he didn't | 11:27 |
| irssi3 | he's acting like an American male | 11:27 |
| irssi3 | "oh yes mam, I respect you, yes mam" | 11:27 |
| irssi3 | "oh, sorry, I made an international movement, I apologize, here, you have it: even the most accomplished man is less than you, oh great american woman" | 11:28 |
| irssi3 | 200 years of this | 11:28 |
| trucy | Yeah, that's why woman have the right to vote only for a century or so depending on the country. | 11:29 |
| Wonka | I propose to stop feeding the troll. | 11:31 |
| irssi3 | trucy: americans have always deffered to women | 11:31 |
| irssi3 | because they are scum | 11:31 |
| trucy | Wonka: agreed | 11:31 |
| irssi3 | "troll": anything I disagree with, or am afraid to agree with | 11:31 |
| irssi3 | Islam will win, thank God. | 11:32 |
| jelly | this kind of troll goes for enraging people on the front, but the goal is getting impressionable people to question or implicitly accept at least _a tiny bit_ of their absurd stances (be it vaguely or explicitely chauvinist, antisemitic, amusingly also antiislamic, or whatever) | 11:33 |
| irssi3 | I'm not anti-islamic, idiot | 11:34 |
| irssi3 | I know the hadiths etc | 11:34 |
| trucy | Yup, they go for inceptionning ideas | 11:34 |
| irssi3 | and I agree with them. | 11:34 |
| irssi3 | you know different religions actually believe different things. | 11:35 |
| irssi3 | you would know that if you bothered to study any language other than english | 11:35 |
| irssi3 | but you people are mono-lingual so you only have one way of relating concepts to eachother: one way of thinking | 11:36 |
| irssi3 | I'd rather be fighting with #debian right now than the superior #devuan however. | 11:36 |
| free_speech | for discussing about the RMS-topic I guess you might want to join #debianfork or optionally ##rms | 11:36 |
| * onefang wanders into the kitchen to feed himself instead of the troll. It's dinner time. | 11:37 | |
| irssi3 | onefang: these talking points are really ment for #debian | 11:40 |
| irssi3 | but they banned me the second I said RMS | 11:40 |
| irssi3 | they seem to hate him | 11:40 |
| jelly | no, we just hate obvious trolls | 11:42 |
| free_speech | he's not online anymore ... he "lost terminal" :-D | 11:45 |
| onefang | Awww, diddums. | 11:46 |
| Humpelst1lzchen | root mean square? | 11:51 |
| free_speech | was? whoops, I mean ... what? | 11:51 |
| onefang | Yeah, Root Mean Square used to be the prime number for the Fourier Sequential Functions. | 11:52 |
| free_speech | I have no idea what you're talking about, but ... I believe you. :-) | 11:53 |
| jelly | > Root-mean-square (rms) refers to the most common mathematical method of defining the effective voltage or current of an AC wave. | 11:55 |
| onefang | And Fourier Sequential Functions (FSF) was my poor attempt to keep that punny little joke going. Meh, I'm a programmer, not a mathematician. I do software, not hardware. | 11:57 |
| MinceR | :) | 11:58 |
| jelly | when your power provider says they're giving you 110V 60Hz AC, that's 110V RMS. peaks are higher. Please don't connect old bearded nerd RMS to this RMS. | 12:00 |
| free_speech | okaaayy ... when it comes to electronic, I'm pretty much out. Learned much stuff about it, but I also forgot a lot. :-) | 12:00 |
| free_speech | My power provider says they're giving me 230V 50Hz AC ... :-) I'm in europe :-) | 12:02 |
| onefang | And please don't connect anything designed for 110 V to a power socket in my country. Or you might have a flamin' troll on your hands. | 12:02 |
| free_speech | I'll now try to connect RPi directly to 230V power socket ^^ | 12:07 |
| free_speech | ( without any converter or other hardware acting as "MITM" ) | 12:08 |
| onefang | You'll be able to run Devuan Mercury on it. | 12:09 |
| james1138 | Not strictly Devuan but since Debian news - maybe important to some: How to Mount an exFAT Drive on Debian Linux / https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-mount-an-exfat-drive-on-debian/ | 17:34 |
| golinux | james1138: That is what #debianfork is for | 17:45 |
| james1138 | ok | 17:45 |
| DonkeyHotei | but wouldn't that info apply equally to devuan? | 17:45 |
| yeti | maybe #debianfork should be #devuan-chat to make this a byte more obvious | 17:46 |
| fsmithred | a couple people were askiing for help mounting exfat a few weeks ago | 17:58 |
| buZz | exfat specs seems to finally have opened enough for a driver to come 'eventually' | 18:04 |
| buZz | hehe these benchmarks :D https://github.com/arter97/exfat-linux/ | 18:06 |
| debdog | fsmithred: that was me. if the solution would have been that easy, it would not have been a problem. just cannot recall, what exactly the issue was. some kind of bug preventing ordinary users from mounting exfat. | 18:11 |
| debdog | might have been fixed in newer debian/devuan versions | 18:12 |
| fsmithred | I think it is fixed somewhere new. Weren't you patching mount or something like that? | 18:14 |
| buZz | afaik fuser can be used as user just fine? | 18:15 |
| debdog | buZz: the important part was "bug" | 18:15 |
| buZz | 'some kind of bug' could just have been 'user does something wrong' ;) | 18:16 |
| buZz | i havent seen a exfat drive in my life though | 18:16 |
| debdog | fsmithred: right, now that you mention it. I've had to compile mount.exfat-fuse | 18:16 |
| debdog | buZz: yah, buying that sony cam was a mistake, not only regarding exfat | 18:17 |
| buZz | one of those alpha cams? | 18:18 |
| james1138 | Heads up. Full Circle Magazine newest issue just came out - and has a article about Devuan (page 44): https://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issue149_en.pdf | 18:19 |
| buZz | hehe a ubuntu magazine? :) | 18:19 |
| buZz | DeVuan ? wut | 18:19 |
| buZz | it seems to focus mostly on 'what is XFCE' :P lol | 18:21 |
| debdog | buZz: some cheapish compact cam https://www.sony.com/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-w830 | 18:26 |
| buZz | cant you just use USB to copy the photos without exfat? | 18:27 |
| debdog | the cam's fs is exfat. and the other thingy Msomethingsomething protocol did not work either | 18:27 |
| buZz | MTP? | 18:28 |
| debdog | right | 18:28 |
| buZz | sad :( | 18:28 |
| debdog | hehe, yah | 18:28 |
| buZz | i'm happy with my Xiaomi Mijia 4k mini | 18:29 |
| buZz | simple gopro clone , 4k 30fps | 18:29 |
| debdog | haha, how do you pronounce that? | 18:29 |
| buZz | 720p 240fps | 18:29 |
| buZz | chow-me me-ya | 18:29 |
| debdog | :) | 18:29 |
| buZz | same price though :) | 18:32 |
| james1138 | Debdog: if it helps, to enable exfat on Devuan, it is suggested to open your terminal and install the exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packages using the following commands: | 18:36 |
| james1138 | sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils | 18:36 |
| debdog | james1138: please stop! | 18:36 |
| debdog | thanks for trying, though ;) | 18:36 |
| debdog | I hope I have not offended him | 18:37 |
| buZz | debdog: you dont ;) | 18:44 |
| Human_G33k | there is some doc for migration from stable to testing ? | 19:26 |
| g4570n | Human_G33k: Tips for successfully migrating Ascii DE to Beowulf as of 11-08-2018: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2301 | 19:42 |
| Human_G33k | thx g4570n | 19:49 |
| james1138 | General Devuan question. Anyone know of where to find additional background wallpaper with the Devuan wording and/or logo please??? | 20:24 |
| buZz | afaik golinux made a devuan wallpapers package once | 20:30 |
| buZz | not sure where it is | 20:30 |
| yeti | apt-cache search cinnabar # devuan3 | 20:35 |
| yeti | search purpy for devuan2 | 20:36 |
| james1138 | I found the one golinux made - https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/tree/master/graphics | 20:36 |
| buZz | yes! thats the one | 20:37 |
| buZz | cool james1138 , are you happy with them? :) | 20:37 |
| james1138 | Yes. The ones for Jessie look really nice. | 20:37 |
| james1138 | Just found these also - neat! Looking for more https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2017/10/11/103/ | 20:42 |
| buZz | james1138: maybe follow the links? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=5282 seems to have many | 20:48 |
| buZz | some of these seriously hurt my eyes, lol | 20:49 |
| james1138 | Thanx BuZz! The one with the guitar was a bit strange... <grin> | 20:51 |
| james1138 | The space "plasma" one is really nice. Just need change my desktop icons so that I can see them again instead of blending into the darkness. | 20:53 |
| james1138 | BuZz: I think I found a winner for my Devuan background - thanks again: https://git.devuan.org/uploads/-/system/note/attachment/766/devuan-orbital-no-fuss-dark-1920x1200.png | 21:03 |
| buZz | oh nice one | 21:03 |
| buZz | bit weird logo though :P | 21:03 |
| james1138 | I kinda like the space/star system look. | 21:06 |
| james1138 | Back later. Laundry needs done. | 21:33 |
| free_rabbit | hello | 23:34 |
| free_rabbit | i like to install a graphical disk encryption mask on a exixting installation. i tried plymouth, but it isnt in the devuan repos. any suggestions? | 23:35 |
| free_rabbit | *existing | 23:36 |
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