| gnarface | avbox14: i don't know much about pulseaudio but it seems like you should be able to change the defaults... did you try pavucontrol? | 00:03 |
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| avbox14 | gnarface: Just installed pavucontrol, works perfect, but my problem is setting on console. | 00:06 |
| gnarface | oh | 00:06 |
| gnarface | might be a bug in pactl then, i'm not sure. i don't use it. | 00:06 |
| gnarface | but i thought it would keep your last setting through reboots. that might be wrong too, if it is not. | 00:06 |
| gnarface | avbox14: this is ascii, right? i'd check the bug reports in devuan and debian first, then maybe file one if nothing is mentioned | 00:10 |
| avbox14 | gnarface: NO, it i beowulf. | 00:11 |
| gnarface | avbox14: oh, well the advice stands still. they may have also seen this issue before in #pulseaudio | 00:12 |
| avbox14 | gnarface: I check it on #pulseaudio, but I'm not shure if it is a devuan specific or pulseaudio or my own problem. Thank's anyway for help | 00:16 |
| gnarface | avbox14: yes, at this point i can't tell you either, that is also a question you will need to answer yourself. sorry. since it is buster, that does increase the chances of it being devuan/polkit/systemd related | 00:17 |
| gnarface | avbox14: if it is such an issue though, very likely it's just some mundane permissions problem you can work around by hand if you can figure out what needs access that isn't getting it | 00:17 |
| xrogaan | golinux: your email client may be faulty. | 06:52 |
| bernyrd | hi does devuan have reproducible builds | 08:06 |
| xrogaan | what does that mean? | 08:08 |
| bernyrd | https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/About | 08:08 |
| bernyrd | >Allow independent verifications that a binary matches what the source intended to produce. | 08:08 |
| onefang | It can be tricky getting the binaries to be identical for each build from the same source code. | 08:10 |
| * onefang has done this sort of thing professionally. Coz government audit labs. | 08:10 | |
| gnarface | bernyrd: the packages in devuan mostly ARE the ones in debian. | 09:30 |
| agris | with special old people sauce | 09:44 |
| MinceR | but is it made from real special old people? | 09:45 |
| onefang | Only the ones with properly grey beards. | 09:46 |
| agris | yes. with only the sharpest cleanest blenders used | 09:46 |
| agris | >grey beards. | 09:47 |
| MinceR | :) | 09:47 |
| agris | Yes, grey beards are a requirement. sandles, khakis, and beep bellies too | 09:48 |
| agris | but not without lanyards | 09:48 |
| agris | *beer | 09:49 |
| agris | how many lanyards you got onefang ? | 10:16 |
| yeti | https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-06-24 --> #debianfork ? | 12:01 |
| xkr47 | ^^ | 12:32 |
| xkr47 | do fake grey beards count? :D | 12:32 |
| onefang | You'll grow into it. | 12:33 |
| xkr47 | In Soviet Russia, it'll grow into you | 12:34 |
| bernyrd | gnarface: that's pretty yeet to know | 14:03 |
| gnarface | bernyrd: i don't really know what that means | 14:04 |
| gnarface | bernyrd: i thought i remembered someone saying that the devuan-forked packages were all reproducible builds but i'm not sure | 14:05 |
| bernyrd | don't worry my yeetness | 14:05 |
| bernyrd | I thought that may be the case, but wasn't sure | 14:05 |
| avbox14 | FYI, there is a new AVMultimedia release (inkl. doc for intel compute stick as open source tv station). All infos you find under: http://archivista.ch/cms/en/support-2/avmultimedia-2/ | 17:32 |
| jonadab | Why would atop say that init is using 50% disk access? | 22:37 |
| jonadab | For _days on end_? | 22:37 |
| jonadab | jbd2/sda3-8 is also implicated. sda3 is the root fs | 22:38 |
| jonadab | This is on a recent install. Started pretty much immediately after install, which was Monday. Never stops. | 22:38 |
| jonadab | It _sounds_ like the system is swapping virtual memory to and from disk constantly, but free says no. | 22:38 |
| jonadab | No swap space is being used. There's still free physical memory. | 22:39 |
| DonkeyHotei | what does iotop say? | 22:40 |
| DonkeyHotei | oh, you used atop, nvm | 22:40 |
| DonkeyHotei | take a look at what threads use virt | 22:41 |
| * jonadab checks iotop | 22:42 | |
| * jonadab _installs_ iotop, then checks it. | 22:42 | |
| jonadab | iotop does not appear to be aware that any disk activity is happening. | 22:43 |
| FleaFart | htop | 22:44 |
| jonadab | htop has options to sort by CPU, memory, or time. Don't see an option to sort by disk activity there. | 22:44 |
| FleaFart | I get that, but sometimes it gives me a hint. | 22:45 |
| jonadab | Top memory user is irssi. | 22:45 |
| jonadab | At 0.4% | 22:45 |
| jonadab | Top cpu user is htop, followed by screen (irssi is running in screen), followed by sshd (it's a headless system), followed by init [2] | 22:48 |
| jonadab | htop is at 0.7% cpu. | 22:48 |
| rrq | maybe "vmstat" gives soemthing (else) | 22:49 |
| jonadab | vmstat says swpd is 0 | 22:51 |
| jonadab | which matches what free says | 22:51 |
| jonadab | Also, swapoff -a does not change anything. | 22:51 |
| jonadab | It's not swapping, that's just what the physical noise coming from the drive _sounds_ like. | 22:51 |
| jonadab | This is ascii btw | 22:52 |
| jonadab | If I wanted the init system to access the disk all the time, I could install one of the poetteringed distros. | 22:52 |
| FleaFart | is it possible that the hard drive has issues? | 22:56 |
| FleaFart | or is this software related. | 22:56 |
| jonadab | Well, the drive is new, but I can't absolutely rule out hardware issues. | 23:00 |
| FleaFart | I am just guessing to try to inspire brianstorming; may I ask is this a new install? I have no Idea, but a script/program that may be conflicting with devuan would create a noise like swapping (example something that won't stop till it gets something from systemd, and doesn't know that it is in a endless loop) totally guessing. | 23:19 |
| * FleaFart I did notice some drive noise when I first installed, but after I apt updated; apt upgraded, it was gone. | 23:21 | |
| MinceR | afaik nuclear is already more expensive than solar and wind | 23:21 |
| MinceR | oops, wrong window | 23:22 |
| FleaFart | thats why I lead ya here | 23:23 |
| FleaFart | LOL | 23:23 |
| gnarface | jonadab: how are you sure it's not something irssi is doing? | 23:38 |
| FleaFart | I noticed some interesting links in the intro to the #irssi description ; but not sure it is applies. | 23:43 |
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