mcr | packages.devuan.org (2001:41d0:8:2c55::a2) <--- still dead. Needs to be removed from DNS. | 00:50 |
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rrq | ta | 01:06 |
caedes | Hi! What's the state of Devuan Beowulf? Do install images exist already? Where can I get them? Couldn't find anythong on files.devuan.org or the mirrors | 01:56 |
buZz | there's no install images yet | 01:57 |
buZz | also hi caedes :) | 01:57 |
caedes | so the way to use it is to install ascii, edit sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade? | 01:57 |
buZz | yeah | 01:58 |
caedes | how stable is it? does it make sense to use it on a productive but not super important system that I would prefer not to reinstall in the foreseeable future? | 01:58 |
tuxd3v | buZz: you mean 'ceres' ?? | 01:58 |
tuxd3v | ho...forgot | 01:58 |
tuxd3v | shame on my eyes... lol | 01:59 |
buZz | its pretty much stable | 01:59 |
buZz | some package issues still | 01:59 |
buZz | but nothing big | 01:59 |
caedes | is there a list of issues somewhere so I can check if I even care about those packages? | 02:00 |
buZz | hmm, there might be | 02:01 |
buZz | i havent seen any though | 02:01 |
caedes | ok | 02:03 |
* tuxd3v tuxd3v is on Terminator Genisys mode, goes with the bigger gun | 02:58 | |
agris | golinux, do you have a minute? | 03:42 |
golinux | OK | 03:43 |
golinux | Is there a question? | 03:44 |
n0a110w | devuan cd team- is there an ISO with only one El Torito boot record for BIOS only? similar to the special iso that debian puts out for old apple macs? | 03:59 |
rrq | afaui the installer iso all include 3 boot variants: el torito, uefi and bios | 04:17 |
* tuxd3v John Connor talks too much...follow me..! | 04:36 | |
xrogaan | I got some signature issue: | 08:07 |
xrogaan | Err:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease | 08:07 |
xrogaan | The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org> | 08:07 |
xrogaan | Err:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates InRelease | 08:07 |
xrogaan | The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org> | 08:07 |
xrogaan | Err:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports InRelease | 08:07 |
xrogaan | The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org> | 08:07 |
onefang | Yes, we are looking into that now. | 08:07 |
xrogaan | thanks :) | 08:07 |
FleaFart | in Devuan 2.1 there are 6 of the same thing, I remove the last 4 and it worked. | 08:13 |
FleaFart | in the Repositories | 08:14 |
onefang | The BADSIG error should be resolved on all the mirrors by now. | 09:31 |
onefang | xrogaan: ^^^ | 09:34 |
xrogaan | yes, I'm on -dev too. I just woke up at the time and didn't have the backlog nor awake enough to check everything :) | 09:35 |
xrogaan | thanks :) | 09:36 |
onefang | You're welcome. | 09:36 |
n0a110w | rrq, due to the nature of the old mac firmware, i need an ISO that is NOT hybrid, but instead just contains one el torito record for BIOS. Any idea how i can repack the ISO for BIOS only? | 10:44 |
rrq | ascii 2.1 amd64 ? | 10:46 |
rrq | or i386 maybe? | 10:51 |
fsmithred | yjsy | 10:51 |
fsmithred | pp[d | 10:51 |
fsmithred | that's isohybrid too | 10:51 |
fsmithred | how old a mac is it? | 10:52 |
rrq | yeah: I meant I want to know which arch is needed | 10:52 |
fsmithred | mount iso, rsync copy to another directory, then make a new iso with xorriso minus the options for isohybrid and uefi | 10:53 |
fsmithred | some old macs want 64-bit system with 32-bit uefi bootloader | 10:54 |
n0a110w | its a 2006 macmini1,1 very special case | 11:10 |
n0a110w | i was looking for the exact flags needed to pass to genisoimage , i've never worked with packing ISOs before | 11:11 |
n0a110w | debian puts out an ISO for the old mac firmware, as they mention here https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_1.2C1 | 11:12 |
n0a110w | works, but systemd is not for me :) | 11:13 |
rrq | my old mac mini was happy installing from usb | 11:14 |
rrq | (the devuan iso dd-ed onto the usb) (netinstall I think) | 11:16 |
n0a110w | what year/model is it? my mac mini won't boot from usb | 11:30 |
fsmithred | I believe it was a 2006 macbook pro that needed the 32/64 mix. | 11:31 |
fsmithred | n0a110w, I can probably give you the xorriso command to use - when I'm a little more awake. | 11:31 |
n0a110w | that'd be perfect fsmithred | 11:32 |
fsmithred | pretty sure I have it in a file somewhere | 11:32 |
n0a110w | good deal. i've done similar to build a Puppy image for this mac before (using mkisofs) , but am unsure how to adapt it to devuans structure | 11:36 |
fsmithred | if you have a newer machine with space to install devuan into a VM, you could build your own iso using refractasnapshot | 11:38 |
n0a110w | i do, im not familiar with refractasnapshot but ill check it out | 11:39 |
fsmithred | boot one of the live isos | 11:40 |
n0a110w | ooo fancy | 11:44 |
fsmithred | ? | 11:45 |
n0a110w | looking at the frecta snapshot options, not seeing an immediate option for uefi disabled or BIOS only | 11:45 |
fsmithred | look in the config file | 11:45 |
fsmithred | there's an option to turn on/off isohybrid | 11:46 |
n0a110w | so there is | 11:46 |
fsmithred | isohybrid is on by default, uefi is off by default (I think) | 11:46 |
n0a110w | that's excellent | 11:46 |
n0a110w | ill give it a go | 11:46 |
fsmithred | you'll need to use refractainstaller, which is also in the live isos | 11:47 |
n0a110w | and how would that work exactly? | 11:52 |
fsmithred | hang on a sec... | 11:52 |
fsmithred | refractainstaller installs the live system that's running | 11:54 |
fsmithred | you can boot the devuan iso in a VM, run refractainstaller to install to virtual disk, then boot the VM and make whatever changes you want in packages and configs, then run refractasnapshot to make your own live-iso, then boot that on the macmini | 11:56 |
fsmithred | the installer is set up to allow separate /boot and /home partitions if you want | 11:56 |
n0a110w | Oh okay i gotcha | 11:56 |
fsmithred | if you want fancier partitioning, the script has a nasty hack to make more separate partitions | 11:57 |
fsmithred | if you want raid or lvm, you can do some manual partitioning and then install | 11:57 |
n0a110w | i can do that later, i just need to boot up from an iso and install the core system | 11:58 |
fsmithred | it will allow encryption of / and /home | 11:58 |
fsmithred | xorriso commands. You want the last one: https://termbin.com/chtf | 12:01 |
fsmithred | fpr that, mount the iso you want, rsync copy to empty dir (myiso/ in this case), then run the command to make the same iso without the uefi and isohybrid features | 12:02 |
n0a110w | ahhhh, you are the man | 12:02 |
n0a110w | EXACTLY what i need | 12:02 |
fsmithred | but not as much fun as making your own custom iso | 12:03 |
n0a110w | looks like it anyways, hopefully | 12:03 |
fsmithred | yeah, that should work | 12:03 |
fsmithred | and will be easier | 12:03 |
n0a110w | hmm, the isolinux.bin file could not be found | 12:11 |
fsmithred | oh, that might need to be isolinux/isolinux.bin like it is in the first command | 12:12 |
fsmithred | also -c isolinux/boot.cat | 12:13 |
n0a110w | oh, duh | 12:13 |
fsmithred | yeah, the command I gave you got copied from one that was used for repacking a mini.iso, which does not have an isolinux directory | 12:14 |
n0a110w | sweet, works good virtually. now to go try it on the mac itself | 12:17 |
]BFG[ | xrogaan use netvibes | 12:20 |
n0a110w | fsmithred, it worked :) good looking out | 12:33 |
fsmithred | cool! | 12:34 |
fsmithred | n0a110w, does it require i386 or amd64? | 12:35 |
n0a110w | i386 | 12:35 |
fsmithred | ok, maybe I'll make one and put it up on my own site | 12:35 |
n0a110w | for sure | 12:36 |
n0a110w | what's your site? | 12:36 |
xrogaan | what? | 12:37 |
fsmithred | refracta.org | 12:40 |
fsmithred | brb need more coffee | 12:40 |
n0a110w | Oh, nice, i see you | 12:43 |
fsmithred | need to light the wood stove, too. I'll be back in about 15 minutes | 12:43 |
xrogaan | why did I get hl? | 12:47 |
fsmithred | xrogaan, what? | 12:59 |
onefang | xrogaan is referring to the comment by ]BFG[ about using netvibes. I'm wondering the same thing, and suspect ]BFG[ might have been responding to the wrong person. | 13:03 |
rrq | n0a110w: great you got it working. Mine is a mac mini 2,1 (4GB) and was "interesting" to tickle into booting from USB.. then using UEFI I believe (already some weeks ago) | 14:16 |
n0a110w | thanks rrq, and that's great.. the mac mini's seem to be rock solid | 15:04 |
JTechno | is there an iso image for testing? | 19:03 |
fsmithred | JTechno, soon - we're working on them | 19:34 |
JTechno | ok, thank you | 20:27 |
premoboss | hi. father with children and... youtube. i wish to block some of those channel but not all youtube. itried to isntall a dedicated linuxbox as accesspoint with squid and dasnguardian. but then i see dansguardian DOES NOT block attps, so it is unusefull. so, i ask here if it is possible to block part of internet (i.e. XXX websites) and some channel of youtub based on words (i.e. minecraft). | 21:29 |
specing | just block whole youtube and give your children some books | 21:34 |
FleaFart_ | premoboss, I wonder if a router could be made to block them, so the devices couldn't create a work-a-round. | 21:34 |
specing | no, it wouldnt | 21:35 |
FleaFart_ | thanks | 21:35 |
agris | the internet treats censorship as a fault and routes around it. Sure there's nannyware out there but it's always trivial to bypass or has unintended consequences. | 21:35 |
agris | Perhaps a more one on one approach would be effective | 21:36 |
FleaFart_ | The problem with one on one; is some teens are in a rebel stage. I would assume that why a parent has to be a parent. | 21:37 |
agris | and no amount of router configuration is going to stop a middle school-er with a copy of tor browser | 21:38 |
agris | https://invidio.us/watch?v=DkEqWGF3cvg | 21:42 |
JTechno | why do I get "ifup: interface eth0 already configured" on boot if I just configured the network on /etc/network/interfaces? | 23:10 |
rrq | probably that there are multiple networking solutions at play | 23:31 |
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