libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2019-11-03

sedroskenSo tonight my game plan is to reinstall ASCII on my laptop in a minimal config, dist-upgrade to Beowulf, and then set it up with my choice in software03:14
gillb_i need to rebuild kernel with scsi (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y) on the jetson nano. think it's ok to try with stock linux 4.19.0-6-arm64 or is it likely i need something propietary in nvidia's kernel?13:00
gnarfacegood question13:05
gillb_well i can start with zcat /proc/config.gz > jetsonnanokernel.cfg and then just change that one thing, right13:42
gillb_and should be good to go since both are 4.19.x13:42
gillb_that's unsettling - something deleted /usr/binvivaldi-stable13:48
gillb_oh apt did14:28
gillb_is there any reason to keep this Noto font spam15:20
markizanohttps://cloud.docker.com/repository/docker/markizano/devuan16:51
markizanonot that anyone needs help finding this since I already saw like 7 pulls, LoL16:51
markizanobut going to attempt to keep a Docker image alive that will have the base install at least.16:51
systemdlete2How can I tell if I have ascii 2.0 or ascii 2.1?   Can I simply do an upgrade, or do I need to re-install from ISO?   Thanks.17:38
systemdlete2(Also, is there a way to include this info in the /etc/os-release file?  That would be convenient)17:39
furrywolfsystemdlete2:  it's an incremental upgrade, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade will get you everything, and you should already have most of it if you've been upgrading regularly.17:51
systemdlete2OK, thanks.  Yeah, I've been doing upgrades periodically.  Last was about 2 days ago.17:52
systemdlete2As far as updating the os-release file though?  Why or why not?17:52
furrywolfit's not an entirely seperate version...  it's just newer packages.17:54
furrywolfit's mostly that a set of new installer isos were built17:56
golinuxThe point release was to include important security updates like the apt bug so a new installation wouldn't be at risk ootb18:12
systemdlete2this apt bug was discovered as early as January 2019.18:32
systemdlete2It is now getting rolled out?18:32
systemdlete2(yipes)18:32
systemdlete2is there a recipe to detect if damage has occurred?18:33
morrootwhat can be reason for hangs on boot at populating /dev stage?18:39
morrootceres at dell 5575 laptop18:41
morrootlatest kernel18:42
furrywolfwell, at a first guess, the most likely problem is running ceres.  :)18:42
furrywolfI have seen engine swaps by people who were not car people.  I can make assumptions.  :P18:42
furrywolfgrr, wrong window.18:42
systemdlete2furrywolf:  Any way to detect damage from the apt bug?18:42
furrywolfI don't know anything at all about the apt bug.18:42
systemdlete2sorry.18:43
systemdlete2golinux:  Any way to detect apt bug damage or compromises?18:43
morrootfurrywolf, ascii can't recognize embedded video on this laptop18:46
golinuxsystemdlete2: I have no idea19:13
systemdlete2googled it, found no such test19:14
systemdlete2ok, thx19:14
systemdleteI need help with my apt configuration.  Somehow, something I did messed things up.   If I try to do apt-get, for instance, I get an avalanche of errors about missing public keys22:42
systemdleteI am not sure what happened, what I did, what update attempts did, etc.22:42
systemdleteIs there a neat-and-clean way of simply rebuilding whatever is missing?22:42
systemdleteI looked at a number of pages about importing public keys, but I can't seem to give it the right keyserver22:43
systemdletethis is occurring in an ascii VM which I will be using as a backup appliance22:44
systemdlete(what is the keyserver name anyway?)22:46
golinuxsystemdlete: Maybe this?23:09
golinuxPlease make sure you have the latest devuan-keyring package with apt-get install devuan-keyring23:09
systemdleteI just re-installed devuan-keyring.   I uninstalled it, then installed it.23:09
sedroskenYou may have to fetch the keyring deb with another machine and dpkg -i it if apt-get won't do it23:09
sedroskenOh23:09
sedroskenOof23:09
sedroskenReinstalling ASCII and dist-upgrading to Beowulf went smoothly and now I have a new enough firefox-esr that my extensions all install23:11
sedroskenTook a bit longer than I would have liked but that's more on my internet connection than anything23:11
systemdletesedrosken:  oof?23:12
systemdleteout of office?23:12
sedroskenI'm guessing reinstalling the keyring didn't fix it?23:12
sedroskenNo, just an expression of sympathy pain23:12
systemdletenope.  No help23:12
sedroskenYeah that's about the only thing I could think of23:13
systemdletealso when trying to install keys, I get all these errors about invalid packets23:13
sedroskenOh s23:13
systemdleteyeah23:13
systemdleteit's really a mess now23:13
sedroskenVery odd23:13
systemdletegolinux, sedrosken:  is there a tool to kind of reset/rebuild the apt keys directory area?23:14
sedroskenNo idea23:16
systemdleteok, thanks23:16
systemdleteI guess I need to start a rebuild from scratch.23:16
sedroskenI just remembered the snippet about the keyring, that's why I piped up about it23:17
systemdletewhich sucks, but might be faster than trying to dissect THIS disaster23:17
sedroskenIm actually very stupid to be honest23:17
systemdleteno, you made a good suggestion.  I appreciate it.23:17
systemdletedebian's packaging system is one of those mysterious areas I am terrified of23:17
systemdleteother people just glide through it without any pain23:18
systemdleteok guys, later23:18

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