tuxd3v | eyalroz, I have a siglthly diferent setup, I don't even have nvcc.profile in /etc :D | 01:03 |
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tuxd3v | I believe that the maintainer is the one whocreated the package.. I haven't looked into it.. | 01:05 |
tuxd3v | whocreated -> who created | 01:05 |
tuxd3v | I just downloaded the instalation script from the cuda toolkit address and move on :) | 01:06 |
tuxd3v | the instalation I did is correctly in /usr/local | 01:06 |
tuxd3v | since comes not by packahge manager.. | 01:07 |
tuxd3v | package | 01:07 |
tuxd3v | that package can come from upstream, I don't really know :( | 01:08 |
tuxd3v | since it comes as a package I believe that /etc is a nice place for config files that come with packages.. ex: nvcc.profile.. what would be the place you sugest? | 01:09 |
tuxd3v | eyalroz, I only have 1 symlink :) | 01:14 |
tuxd3v | /usr/local/cuda -> /usr/local/cuda-10.1/ | 01:14 |
tuxd3v | and I believe was created by me... lool :D | 01:15 |
eyalroz | your symlink is fine. | 01:15 |
eyalroz | Also, /etc/nvcc.profile is a reasonable choice, I suppose | 01:15 |
eyalroz | the problem is with the _contents_ of the file... | 01:15 |
eyalroz | But ok, I'll email them. | 01:15 |
tuxd3v | your file contents are wrong by what I understood? :( | 01:18 |
tuxd3v | this packages come always with some ester egg :D | 01:18 |
tuxd3v | I install them by hand from the site, and I choose prefixś and so on | 01:19 |
tuxd3v | prefixs | 01:19 |
tuxd3v | majority of time are packages that need to be made availlable to several distributions, and they try to share some parts between packages.. | 01:20 |
tuxd3v | and that lead to symlinks to /usr and other crazy stuff :) | 01:20 |
frabbit | hey. when i play a video with mpv i get this errors: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1122821 | 01:21 |
tuxd3v | I check always after install, to see what if they are ok.. sometimes it his even the permissions of folders of files that come to lazy, prompting me to put more restrictions in the access | 01:21 |
frabbit | i causes blur effects and broken sound | 01:22 |
tuxd3v | frabit, are your user in the group video ? | 01:22 |
frabbit | no | 01:22 |
tuxd3v | also audio group | 01:22 |
frabbit | since when is this necessary? o0 in audio group i am | 01:23 |
frabbit | ok i need to log out to check if thats it... | 01:24 |
eyalroz | tuxd3v: Yes, the distribution-packaged contents of nvcc.profile is wrong. | 01:24 |
eyalroz | We're talking about the _Devuan_ package, not the _NVIDIA_ package her. | 01:25 |
frabbit | lol that helped ^^ | 01:25 |
frabbit | but weird on the last pc i was not in video group only cdrom and audio and i didnt had these errors... | 01:26 |
tuxd3v | I don make myself shy with that.. :) | 01:27 |
tuxd3v | I am in all groups the admin should be :D | 01:27 |
frabbit | tuxd3v: woh! thats not a good idea... | 01:28 |
tuxd3v | video, audio,dialout,plugdev,netdev,scanner,lpadmin | 01:28 |
tuxd3v | hehehe | 01:28 |
tuxd3v | well I understand :D | 01:28 |
tuxd3v | I am in some groups, because I am the administrator of the machine, so I have a few more.. | 01:29 |
frabbit | my user account is only in its own and the three i wrote before | 01:29 |
frabbit | for printing/scanning alos lpadmin is needed i think... | 01:29 |
frabbit | ok u mean root | 01:30 |
frabbit | tuxd3v: ? | 01:30 |
frabbit | however: thx tuxd3v =) | 01:34 |
tuxd3v | no I mean id 1000 | 01:48 |
tuxd3v | you need to use serial port | 01:48 |
tuxd3v | for debug... you already need dialout | 01:48 |
tuxd3v | as a user | 01:48 |
tuxd3v | so its normal to have a set of standard groups that you belong too | 01:49 |
tuxd3v | ofcourse that are things that you shouldn't have | 01:49 |
tuxd3v | I don't even have root login enabled | 01:49 |
tuxd3v | to pass to root I use sudo su - | 01:49 |
tuxd3v | for example | 01:49 |
tuxd3v | frabiit, you welcome :) | 01:53 |
tuxd3v | I don't know if there are other way | 01:53 |
tuxd3v | using video and audio without been in the groups.. | 01:53 |
frabbit | i see | 01:55 |
frabbit | i do not use sudo | 01:55 |
frabbit | tuxd3v: yes its weird.. on t61 i was only in USER cdrom and audio... | 01:55 |
frabbit | now o T60 i need to be in videogroup... dunno why but it works now tahts what counts ^_^ | 01:56 |
tuxd3v | frabbit. its the same driver on both machines? | 01:59 |
frabbit | no for t61 i needed to install i965 | 02:05 |
tuxd3v | yeah, do a 'ls -l /dev/fb0' | 02:12 |
tuxd3v | on both | 02:12 |
tuxd3v | this is my devices: https://paste2.org/96As2ynI | 02:18 |
frabbit | thats the framebuffer? at t60 only root and videogroup have rights here | 02:25 |
frabbit_ | ah.. i had disconnect | 02:27 |
frabbit_ | at t60 i only have card0 and renderD128 | 02:27 |
frabbit_ | i can not look at t61 atm | 02:28 |
tuxd3v | yeah, I have 2 cards, I am in a desktop with a integrated intel card and a dgpu nvidia GTX1060 6GB( only for cuda stuff.. ) | 02:31 |
tuxd3v | that s why you see 2 cards :) | 02:31 |
tuxd3v | and exactly the video group is the last to have rw permissions :) | 02:32 |
frabbit_ | i see | 02:34 |
frabbit_ | good card that 1060 | 02:34 |
frabbit_ | what is cuda? | 02:34 |
tuxd3v | is paralel processing on the Graphics card instead of been done in the CPU | 02:34 |
tuxd3v | AMD and others have a openstadard opencl | 02:35 |
tuxd3v | nvidia has cuda for that.. | 02:35 |
frabbit_ | ah ok | 02:35 |
frabbit | i bought a 1030 | 02:36 |
tuxd3v | yeah the 1060 its a nice card, it play games nicelly, at least what I like.. but that can almost be played by the igpu i915 lol | 02:36 |
tuxd3v | I use it for cuda programming.. | 02:36 |
tuxd3v | in my case its more to kid around :) | 02:37 |
tuxd3v | they are low power graphics cards yet, they deliver a good performance.. | 02:37 |
agris | Where can I find Devuan ASCII Power9 installers ISOs? | 02:56 |
fsmithred | agris, if they exist, CenturianDan would have them | 02:59 |
agris | Or can you only install Devuan from a Debian debootsrap | 02:59 |
agris | fsmithred, thanks | 02:59 |
fsmithred | I don't see him online, so he might be rebuilding his network setup in his new office in between changing diapers and feeding new baby. | 03:00 |
fsmithred | debootstrap might be faster | 03:00 |
fsmithred | pretty sure we've never released any Power9 isos | 03:01 |
agris | Is it supported though right? | 03:01 |
agris | as in binary packages exist | 03:02 |
onefang | Or he might be on holiday. | 03:02 |
fsmithred | some must exist somewhere, because Dan has been working on it. I don't know if he's made any packages available to others. | 03:02 |
fsmithred | yeah, that too. | 03:03 |
frabbit_ | wheres the need 4 that power9 except 4 supercomputers_ | 03:11 |
frabbit_ | ? | 03:12 |
fsmithred | I think one of the attractions is no meltdown, et. al. | 03:12 |
frabbit_ | yes thats of course... but it so costly... | 03:13 |
fsmithred | no IME | 03:13 |
fsmithred | how much are they? | 03:13 |
frabbit_ | i have no me too =) | 03:13 |
frabbit_ | hm.. i bet not cheaper then these talos monster... | 03:13 |
frabbit_ | talos has power 8 i think..? | 03:14 |
frabbit_ | 4 gettin rid off me there are cheaper ways | 03:14 |
Tashtari | Does anyone have any advance knowledge about the likely outcome of the Debian vote on systemd? I'm a bit nailbitey. | 03:35 |
frabbit | Tashtari: is there a vote? | 03:36 |
Tashtari | https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 | 03:37 |
frabbit | i think it will be a win for systemdeath and everyone from Proposal D on will change too devuan ^^ | 03:45 |
frabbit | *to | 03:45 |
tuxd3v | F is gaining traction don't you think? | 04:17 |
mason | There are no results in yet as far as I can tell. Or is there something I've missed? | 04:18 |
tuxd3v | tomorrow is the deadline | 04:20 |
mason | Right. Bit less than 24 hours from now. | 04:20 |
tuxd3v | yeah.. | 04:20 |
mason | But with no results, it's not a race we can reasonably watch as it happens. | 04:20 |
tuxd3v | some strange events could happen in the middle course..on this votings.. | 04:22 |
ScaredySquirrel | why hasn't devuan been updated in a few months? | 04:52 |
golinux | ScaredySquirrel: ??? | 05:05 |
ScaredySquirrel | it's just at Devuan ascii 2.1 | 05:06 |
ScaredySquirrel | are packages still being updated? | 05:06 |
ScaredySquirrel | I mean that's the release to install it | 05:06 |
ScaredySquirrel | are the packages for installed systems kept updated? | 05:07 |
golinux | Just update and you will be at ascii 2.1 | 05:13 |
golinux | No need to reinstall if that's what your asking. | 05:14 |
golinux | I meant update/upgrade | 05:14 |
golinux | of course | 05:15 |
golinux | bbiab | 05:15 |
Tashtari | I'd say to frabbit, but they seem to have left, that while I don't quite understand the circumstance myself, it sounds as if Devuan is highly dependent on Debian. | 05:40 |
golinux | Tashtari: You are correct. | 05:52 |
Tashtari | If the vote results in Debian dropping support for init systems other than systemd, unless it also causes a significant exodus of contributors who lend their efforts to Devuan, it could be an existential situation... | 05:55 |
golinux | Wrong channel for this discussion. Try #debianfork | 06:00 |
golinux | This is a support channel | 06:01 |
Tashtari | Fair enough. | 06:36 |
systemdlete2 | is pulseaudio required to use bluetooth now? Seems the only solution to get bluetooth buds to work properly is to install a pulse module. BUt I am using alsa not pulse. | 10:26 |
systemdlete2 | I can see it will connect for a second or two, then fail. This happens if I go through the whole connect procedure from scratch (remove the device from the bt manager, etc) | 10:28 |
systemdlete2 | It's a NAXA headset -- I wonder if it is maybe not supported? | 10:28 |
systemdlete2 | I have another headset... | 10:28 |
systemdlete2 | and a usb headset that I finally got working on my desktop, so I suppose it might work on my laptop also | 10:29 |
systemdlete2 | (only the laptop has a bt device) | 10:29 |
systemdlete2 | anyway, happy holidays to all | 10:30 |
Humpelstilzchen | systemdlete2: you do know https://github.com/Arkq/bluez-alsa? | 10:50 |
systemdlete2 | Yeah, but I cannot get it from ascii repo | 10:59 |
systemdlete2 | would LOVE to have bluez-alsa | 10:59 |
systemdlete2 | ah, I think you mean to download, build it etc | 10:59 |
systemdlete2 | I think bluez-alsa will be in beowulf so I might just wait for it | 11:02 |
systemdlete2 | anyway, I got a different earbud set to connect. But it won't play sound; it goes to my laptop speakers | 11:04 |
tuxd3v | Humpelstilzchen, nice project | 11:08 |
tuxd3v | very usefull.. | 11:08 |
Humpelstilzchen | systemdlete2: yes, I build it | 11:10 |
Humpelstilzchen | tuxd3v: useful, unfortunately but last time I checked not very stable | 11:10 |
systemdlete2 | so it WILL be in beowulf then? | 11:10 |
systemdlete2 | or is it still undecided? | 11:11 |
eyalroz | How much time does it take for a Debian package bug reported, submitted by email, to appear on the website? | 11:29 |
plasma41 | The Debian init systems vote ends in just a few hours | 19:23 |
divansantana | anyone have kubernetes installed and working fine on devuan? | 19:24 |
plasma41 | divansantana: I'm pretty sure blinkdog did, but I haven't seen him on-line in ages. | 19:25 |
eipi10 | has anyone ever encountered a sitituation in which synaptic only gives a "short" description for a package in the description pane, as can be seen .... | 19:27 |
eipi10 | here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/547774/synaptic-do-not-show-packages-long-description | 19:27 |
eipi10 | that solution didn't work. | 19:27 |
golinux | plasma41: He talked about it. Can't remember whether he actually did it. | 19:29 |
plasma41 | eipi10: I've run into that before. I think it has something to do with how Devuan's amprolla merges repo information. I've not looked into it in any detail though. | 19:32 |
eipi10 | thanks | 19:33 |
eipi10 | for replying | 19:33 |
golinux | eipi10: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/search?q=long+descriptions | 19:43 |
eipi10 | thanks | 19:45 |
morruth | plasma41: and what is leading? | 19:49 |
plasma41 | morruth: It's a hidden-ballot vote until the end of voting. We'll know how everyone voted in a few hours. | 19:51 |
morruth | btw, there is missing option (drop systemd support ;) | 19:54 |
plasma41 | morruth: That option already exists. It is Devuan. | 19:55 |
golinux | GR resolution chat should really move to #debianfork | 19:56 |
golinux | This is a support channel | 19:56 |
plasma41 | Fair enough. To #debianfork! | 19:56 |
morruth | devuan <> debian ;) | 19:56 |
morruth | golinux: opps | 19:56 |
morruth | btw about support | 19:57 |
morruth | does anybody uses devuan pn dell inspiron 15 5575 laptop? | 19:57 |
morruth | s/pn/on/ | 19:57 |
morruth | golinux: what is GR? | 19:58 |
golinux | General Resolution | 20:04 |
plasma41 | morruth: Can't say I do | 20:05 |
morruth | i've some problems on startup with this laptop | 20:07 |
morruth | seems legacy boot sometimes uncorrectly initializes hardware, and kernel 5.[2-3] seems hangs | 20:08 |
morruth | 4.19 boots, but sometime can't load gpu module correctly | 20:09 |
morruth | if repeat rmmod amdgpu;modprobe amdgpu until it'll stop complains about errors(can't find BIOS) - all working OK | 20:11 |
morruth | legacy boot == BIOS boot | 20:12 |
eipi10 | thanks for the resourse, golinux. I thought the prob was something I had done. | 20:35 |
eipi10 | adios | 20:36 |
frabbit | hey. the xrandr command in my .xinit (same that i ran before on other computer) isnt work anymore.. but if i do it in a terminal it works.. atm i have made a shortkey for it, but thats just a temp workarround. | 20:50 |
climbingturtle | frabbit: what exactly do you do with xrandr? Do you create a --newmode or just applying a resolution? | 20:58 |
frabbit | xrandr --output LVDS1 --noprimary --off --output DVI1 --off --output TV1 --off --output VIRTUAL1 --off --output VGA1 --primary --mode 1280x1024 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal | 20:58 |
frabbit | so just set resolution and disable the laptop display | 20:59 |
frabbit | and enable external vga monitor only | 20:59 |
climbingturtle | ok, I was thinking the problem might be with the action it self, but as you say, you can pull it of from terminal. Do the .xinit have same permissions set on booth machines? | 21:05 |
frabbit | climbingturtle: yes and thats the weird one: the other commands in it work... | 21:09 |
frabbit | like windowmanger and program for using shortkeys.. | 21:09 |
frabbit | setting backgroundimage | 21:09 |
frabbit | heres my .xinit: https://paste2.org/ceIsAX2d | 21:18 |
frabbit | i just noticed that i have still an error when runnig mpv (i usually run it quiet), an opengl error, but i think this has nothing to do with this problem right?: https://paste2.org/pEUBZhdk | 21:25 |
ScaredySquirrel | um when I try to download the Devuan ascii 2.1 amd64 dvd-1 installer iso I only get 50KB/s down | 21:45 |
ScaredySquirrel | itunes from the Microsoft Store downloads at 1MB/s | 21:45 |
buZz | did you use the torrent? | 21:45 |
frabbit | anyone any ideas? | 21:46 |
buZz | maybe try https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_ascii/installer-iso/devuan_ascii_2.1_amd64_cd-1.iso | 21:46 |
buZz | frabbit: to what question? | 21:46 |
frabbit | xrand in .xinit and that mpv opengl error | 21:46 |
buZz | frabbit: seems perhaps a driver issue | 21:46 |
ScaredySquirrel | ok the FTP mirror at dotsrc.org is much faster | 21:46 |
buZz | which gpu and driver are you running? | 21:47 |
ScaredySquirrel | and the bittorrent fails to download at all | 21:47 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: cool, yeah mirrors have different speeds | 21:47 |
ScaredySquirrel | with no peers | 21:47 |
buZz | torrent works fine here | 21:47 |
buZz | ~4MB/s | 21:47 |
frabbit | buZz: yes but how can i find out what driver i need? | 21:47 |
buZz | frabbit: what GPU and driver are you running now? | 21:47 |
ScaredySquirrel | guys how do I get the ath10k_pci driver working? | 21:47 |
buZz | by loading it? :D | 21:47 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: what problem are you getting when you load it? | 21:48 |
ScaredySquirrel | is there firmware? | 21:48 |
frabbit | buZz: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 | 21:48 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: sure, it exists | 21:48 |
frabbit | driver i dunno.. | 21:48 |
buZz | frabbit: ok, so the opensource intel driver then | 21:48 |
frabbit | how can i figure out? | 21:48 |
buZz | its not really the best | 21:48 |
frabbit | ah ok.. | 21:48 |
buZz | but should support opengl just fine, that mpv error is weird | 21:48 |
frabbit | =( | 21:49 |
buZz | frabbit: maybe check /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 21:49 |
ScaredySquirrel | before I burn this Devuan I want to know if there is firmware for a QCA9377 | 21:49 |
frabbit | ok | 21:49 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: which firmware would that be? | 21:49 |
ScaredySquirrel | Firmware 2 to 6 | 21:49 |
buZz | thats no answer. but ok | 21:49 |
buZz | i'll go google for you -_- | 21:49 |
buZz | lazy buggers--- | 21:49 |
ScaredySquirrel | firmware-2.bin to firmware-6.bin | 21:49 |
frabbit | erm... thers no /var/log/X* | 21:49 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: apt install firmware-atheros | 21:50 |
buZz | first google hit on 'qca9377 debian firmware' | 21:50 |
ScaredySquirrel | buZz: I can't if I have no wireless | 21:50 |
buZz | frabbit: are you even running X then? | 21:50 |
buZz | opengl wont work without X | 21:50 |
frabbit | buZz: yes i do | 21:50 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: get a ethernet cable? | 21:50 |
buZz | frabbit: then you should have logs for it | 21:50 |
ScaredySquirrel | I can't get an ethernet cable | 21:50 |
frabbit | buZz: but there are no logs... | 21:50 |
buZz | frabbit: then maybe you arent running it ;) | 21:51 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: come visit nurdspace.nl , i'll give you 10 of em for free | 21:51 |
frabbit | .. | 21:51 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: use the cable thats in your TV :D | 21:51 |
frabbit | buZz: common im not stupid | 21:51 |
buZz | frabbit: 'wayland' is a alternative to X | 21:51 |
buZz | you could be running that? | 21:51 |
buZz | how did you start X ? | 21:51 |
ScaredySquirrel | err buZz it's a wireless TV not a router | 21:51 |
frabbit | io have firefox here open and a video.. | 21:52 |
frabbit | running mpv | 21:52 |
frabbit | and tbb | 21:52 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: you have -zero- networkcables? geez | 21:52 |
buZz | time to nerd-up | 21:52 |
ScaredySquirrel | nope I'm at zero | 21:52 |
ScaredySquirrel | I actually have just one | 21:52 |
Jjp137 | frabbit, if you're using elogind it could be in ~/.local/share/xorg | 21:52 |
ScaredySquirrel | but it's at my house not here | 21:52 |
frabbit | Jjp137: sorry nothing there too =( | 21:53 |
buZz | ScaredySquirrel: there are -SOME- firmware files on the .iso | 21:53 |
buZz | i have no clue if -those- are | 21:53 |
frabbit | also .xsession-errors is empty... | 21:53 |
buZz | download it, loopback mount the iso , check /lib/firmware on it | 21:53 |
ScaredySquirrel | would you please check for me? | 21:54 |
ScaredySquirrel | I'd need unsquashfs for windows for me to check | 21:54 |
frabbit | .. oh sorry | 21:54 |
frabbit | im deny i am a bit stupid XD | 21:55 |
frabbit | didnt run cat or vim just typed in /var/log so it only showed the dirs | 21:55 |
yeti | download the *.deb via windows, put in o a flash drive to transfer? | 21:55 |
buZz | frabbit: hehe | 21:56 |
buZz | frabbit: no worries | 21:56 |
frabbit | buZz: here it is: https://paste.debian.net/1122894/ | 21:57 |
ScaredySquirrel | when I update devuan do I get Xfce 4.14? | 21:57 |
buZz | on ascii? not sure | 21:58 |
buZz | frabbit: seems to load the intel driver just fine | 21:59 |
yeti | 4.12 iirc | 21:59 |
frabbit | i do not understand the most of its content but it sais that two modules can not be loaded: (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) and (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) | 22:02 |
buZz | you dont need it frabbit | 22:02 |
buZz | both vesa and fbdev drivers are a LOT slower then using the intel driver | 22:03 |
frabbit | buZz: ah ok | 22:04 |
frabbit | thx 4 that indeo buZz =) | 22:04 |
frabbit | *information | 22:04 |
buZz | welcome :) | 22:04 |
frabbit | so where does that opengl error comes from? | 22:05 |
frabbit | the videos are running but i have some other weird stuff and maybe because of that opengl error: sometimes when i switch the worspace from where mpv runs a video to another and then switch back to where the video is running what i can see on this workspace is replaced by the last thing i have ssen on the otehr ws, only the sound is still there. the only way then is to kill mpv cause its also doesnt accept | 22:10 |
frabbit | any command anymore... | 22:11 |
buZz | frabbit: imho, make sure you are running a WM that doesnt use compositing | 22:12 |
buZz | KDE / gnome / etc, are all -way- too fancy and often ask a LOT from GPU | 22:13 |
buZz | fluxbox , i3 , openbox , blackbox , etc are all MUCH MUCH lighter | 22:13 |
frabbit | buZz: but exactly these u wrote are desktopenviroments. ;) i only use a minimal xserver and dwm | 22:14 |
frabbit | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/dwm_6.1-3.html | 22:15 |
buZz | did you try any alternative to dwm? it could be causing your 'can still see last thing' | 22:15 |
frabbit | no but i really dont want to cause i like it very much and had never any problems with it. i dont think that this is caused by dwm.. the gpu more likely... before this t60 i used a t61 with the same setup and i never had these problems... | 22:16 |
frabbit | its old.... maybe this is just the reason... =( | 22:17 |
buZz | possibly | 22:17 |
frabbit | my first computer was a t60 too and at some day the gpu was broken without any warning or trouble before... | 22:18 |
buZz | hmhm, gpu chips can get hot and then pull themselves away from motherboard | 22:18 |
frabbit | hm maybe that was the reason then, but probably not now, i use a graphic thermal pad in all my computers since this year | 22:19 |
frabbit | in the past i used thermal paste | 22:19 |
frabbit | i got higher degrees with it... | 22:20 |
buZz | you know, transfer of heat works better with -no- product between it :) | 22:20 |
buZz | just metal on metal | 22:20 |
buZz | no paste or pad | 22:21 |
buZz | the paste or pad is just to fill in places where contact was impossible | 22:21 |
frabbit | theres no metal on the chips =D | 22:21 |
buZz | well, there is | 22:21 |
frabbit | yes i know | 22:21 |
buZz | its just hidden under a layer of plastic or ceramics | 22:21 |
frabbit | the last time i dissambled a t60 i forgot to tighten 2 srews of the fan, so tehre was a thin layer of air between cpu and fan it runned over 100°C XD | 22:22 |
frabbit | with the thermal pad i maximum get 60 degree | 22:23 |
buZz | heheh | 22:23 |
frabbit | yes but so the metal can not get direct contact to the cooler | 22:23 |
frabbit | micro scratches in it... | 22:24 |
frabbit | in that plastic i mean | 22:24 |
tuxd3v | usually they are BGA sockets.. | 22:24 |
tuxd3v | which means a ball grid array behind.. | 22:25 |
tuxd3v | this type of SoCs | 22:25 |
frabbit | the gpu yes | 22:25 |
tuxd3v | ocupy less space indeed | 22:25 |
frabbit | but not my cpu | 22:25 |
buZz | frabbit: you could lap the chip | 22:25 |
buZz | with sandpaper | 22:25 |
frabbit | buZz: =O | 22:25 |
buZz | to make it as flat as possible | 22:25 |
frabbit | i would never even try XD | 22:25 |
buZz | quite advanced topic yeah | 22:25 |
buZz | nah, get another of those 10+ yr old laptops :) | 22:25 |
frabbit | 4 sure ;D | 22:25 |
tuxd3v | but have the problem of micromovements in the mainboard causes its ball grid array to separate from the main board.. | 22:26 |
tuxd3v | then with time the contact will oxidate because its open | 22:26 |
tuxd3v | and the problems begun.. | 22:26 |
tuxd3v | BGA Socs were first used By Nokia | 22:26 |
tuxd3v | were a revolution at the time | 22:26 |
frabbit | buZz: i always would as long as they are available and cheap | 22:26 |
frabbit | i can libreboot them | 22:26 |
buZz | you can use a paintstripper to force it back onto the motherboard :P | 22:27 |
tuxd3v | processors with lots of functionality in tynny packages.. | 22:27 |
tuxd3v | amazing | 22:27 |
buZz | :) | 22:27 |
frabbit | so cheap way to get rid of Intel ME and BIOS | 22:27 |
tuxd3v | but there are the drawbacks of them too | 22:27 |
tuxd3v | I worked in Nokia Factory in German | 22:27 |
tuxd3v | Bockum | 22:27 |
frabbit | tuxd3v: Bochum? | 22:27 |
tuxd3v | the biggest Nokia factory in the world.. I now the pros and cons of BGAs :) | 22:28 |
frabbit | yes its Bochum in the Ruhrgebiet | 22:28 |
tuxd3v | its ~16 KM from Dusseldorf :) | 22:29 |
frabbit | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B%C3%BCrogeb%C3%A4ude_fr%C3%BCheres_Nokia-Werk_Bochum-Riemke_(2009).jpg | 22:29 |
tuxd3v | the closest Airport | 22:29 |
frabbit | yes i know ;) | 22:30 |
tuxd3v | it was a big problem for Germany, and even the Gobvernment was involved because the factory employed so many people.. | 22:30 |
frabbit | buZz: do u have an idea for my xrand <-> .xinit problem? | 22:30 |
frabbit | tuxd3v: and then they moved to romania and many people in germany lost their jobs... | 22:31 |
tuxd3v | frabiit, a LOT of people lost their Jobs, me included | 22:32 |
frabbit | not cool.... | 22:32 |
tuxd3v | it was a big crisis event in Germany and it Afected Europe as a hole in smartphones technology | 22:32 |
frabbit | yes i know | 22:33 |
tuxd3v | sorry from bringing here this subject.. I saw you guys talking about BGAs...and my head travelled back in time.. | 22:36 |
tuxd3v | it was aEuropean Invented Technology!! | 22:36 |
tuxd3v | Now used largelly by anyone in the world | 22:36 |
frabbit | there are many technologies that were inveted here and then outsourced to china etc. | 22:37 |
frabbit | *invented | 22:38 |
buZz | maybe .xinit isnt being executed? | 22:39 |
tuxd3v | frabbit, very true.. | 22:39 |
buZz | you could try a 'echo POOP > /tmp/itran' in it | 22:39 |
frabbit | buZz: of course it is ;) the other commands in it are working... | 22:40 |
buZz | frabbit: heh ok | 22:41 |
buZz | frabbit: maybe add a '> /tmp/xrandroutput' to it? | 22:41 |
buZz | so you can see the output | 22:41 |
frabbit | ok i will try | 22:42 |
rrq | frabbit: that requested modeline, 1280x1024@60.0, isn't reported in the log; do you create that manually? | 22:42 |
frabbit | rrq: sorry what do u mean? | 22:43 |
rrq | the xrandr command requests that mode of VGA1 | 22:44 |
frabbit | rrq: err.. thats the maximum resolution for VGA1 | 22:44 |
buZz | maybe remove the @60.0 | 22:45 |
buZz | it should automagically grab the highest | 22:45 |
frabbit | hu? in my xrand command? theres no @60.0 | 22:46 |
buZz | ah ok | 22:46 |
frabbit | my command is just: xrandr --output LVDS1 --noprimary --off --output DVI1 --off --output TV1 --off --output VIRTUAL1 --off --output VGA1 --primary --mode 1280x1024 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal | 22:46 |
rrq | lines 382-385 suggests "1024x768" to be max, and as per line 167, VG1 is set up to 1024x768@75.0 | 22:46 |
frabbit | o0 | 22:46 |
frabbit | xrandr: https://paste2.org/tJn4zfLK | 22:47 |
frabbit | maximum 4 VGA1 is 1280x1024 | 22:48 |
frabbit | that 1024x768 is the display of the laptop probably | 22:48 |
frabbit | (LVDS1) | 22:48 |
rrq | ah the log reports the lvds1 modelines only? | 22:49 |
frabbit | i dunno | 22:50 |
frabbit | oh no! | 22:50 |
frabbit | line 124: [ 339.884] (--) intel(0): Output VGA1 using initial mode 1024x768 on pipe 0 | 22:51 |
frabbit | ill test now this: 22:41 < buZz> frabbit: maybe add a '> /tmp/xrandroutput' to it? | 22:52 |
frabbit | brb | 22:52 |
frabbit | it doesnt has any output | 22:53 |
frabbit | creates just an emtpy file | 22:54 |
buZz | ok, so no errors | 22:55 |
buZz | weird | 22:55 |
buZz | maybe dwm or xorg is resetting the videomodes after running .xinit | 22:55 |
frabbit | wait the Xorg.0.log is only from last boot on right? | 22:56 |
frabbit | or from last startx? | 22:56 |
frabbit | cause if so: i comment the xrandr line out in .xinitrc yesterday as it doesnt work | 22:57 |
frabbit | so maybe i clear the log, enabel that line and run startx again? | 22:58 |
buZz | sounds good | 22:58 |
frabbit | ok =D | 22:58 |
frabbit | brb | 22:58 |
buZz | it should be the log of current running Xorg | 22:58 |
frabbit | it would be easier to runn irssi on another tty i think XD | 23:01 |
frabbit | *run | 23:01 |
frabbit | ok here it is: https://paste.debian.net/1122902/ | 23:02 |
frabbit | hmm.. but cant find any 1280... | 23:02 |
buZz | its only saying what initial mode it picked | 23:05 |
rrq | adding a preceding xrandr to declare the desired modeline might help; or a monitor section to xorg.conf | 23:07 |
rrq | it looks like the card only remembers the edid of the lvds1, and that that is used on startup for any monitor | 23:09 |
buZz | frabbit: doesnt dwm have some 'startup commands' gizmo? | 23:10 |
buZz | you could just plonk that xrandr command in that, if it exists | 23:10 |
frabbit | buZz: startup commands? | 23:10 |
frabbit | no XD | 23:10 |
frabbit | its tiny | 23:10 |
buZz | 7~https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/autostart/ | 23:10 |
frabbit | even if u edit the config u need to recompile it ;) | 23:10 |
frabbit | yes thats the patches | 23:11 |
frabbit | but i use stock dwm | 23:11 |
buZz | would need to run custom then yeah | 23:11 |
frabbit | and seriously: xrand works just not in my xinitrc XD | 23:11 |
frabbit | rrq: and why does it taht? or how can i told the card to use the vga (too)? | 23:12 |
frabbit | afk | 23:14 |
rrq | it might be just a race; that VGA1 is too slow at responding to edid, so your xrandr is executed before the response.. and at that time only the lvds1 modelines are available to it | 23:14 |
frabbit | rrq: hm.. maybe.. ive had something similar before (the background image were set before xrandr set the solution so i had to write xsetbg to the last line before dwm) | 23:23 |
rrq | a "sleep 3" at the top of .xinitrc could make a difference | 23:24 |
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