waynedpj | ahoy all. trying to install Devuan 2.1 to an existing encrypted Btrfs subvolume as described here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=19401#p19401 . some other pages i found seem to change the /target mount after partitioning step but before installation begins. however with the desktop-live and netinst expert mode i cannot find a way to | 00:45 |
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waynedpj | prevent partition step to use my existing partition layout without formatting. assuming that this is something simple that i am missing? thanks. | 00:45 |
Hurgotron | I need to do a few clean Devuan installs. What's the recommended way to install Beowulf currently? Install ASCII and upgrade? (I can test stuff if someone wants me to) | 00:55 |
furrywolf | I believe you still need to install ascii and upgrade, yes. | 01:00 |
fsmithred | waynedpj, with desktop-live you can tell the installer not to format your partitions. But I'm not sure if it will see btrfs partitions. | 01:01 |
fsmithred | (the graphical installer, that is.) | 01:01 |
fsmithred | the cli installer will use whatever partitions you type in when it asks | 01:01 |
fsmithred | set no-format in the config file | 01:01 |
fsmithred | Hurgotron, PM on the way | 01:02 |
waynedpj | fsmithred hank you very much. by cli installer i assume you mean with netinst? i could not find a way to get an expert install running from the desktop-live image. | 04:17 |
plasma41 | waynedpj: expert install is not in desktop-live image, correct | 04:23 |
fsmithred | oh, I answereed in pm | 04:23 |
fsmithred | yeah, refractainstaller is in live isos | 04:23 |
fsmithred | partitioning has to be done manually | 04:25 |
waynedpj | plasma41 thanks, so i can just refractainstaller from the desktop-live image? | 04:35 |
plasma41 | correct | 04:35 |
waynedpj | plasma41 aha, so expert mode is just running the refractainstaller from the command line? | 04:45 |
waynedpj | at least for desktop-live? | 04:45 |
plasma41 | no, expert install is an option of devuan's version of the debian-installer on the install-isos | 04:48 |
waynedpj | OK, so is it possible to use the refractainstaller to install to an existing Btrfs subvolume? i just tried and i cannot seem to find a way. i have the subvolumes mounted but i guess the trick with changing the /target mount is only for the debian-based installer, i.e. netinst? | 04:56 |
plasma41 | I don't think you can do that with refractainstaller. You should be able to with the netinst. | 04:59 |
fsmithred | waynedpj, yes, you can install to btrfs | 05:02 |
fsmithred | first, edit /etc/refractainstaller.conf and set no_format="yes" | 05:03 |
fsmithred | then run 'refractainstaller' from root terminal | 05:03 |
fsmithred | how many partitions are you installing to? | 05:03 |
fsmithred | it will ask if you have separate /boot or /home | 05:05 |
waynedpj | fsmithred thanks. i have an EFI partition sda1 (not used on this BIOS PC but for future), sda2 is BIOS GRUB for booting on GPT, lastly sda3 is Btrfs and the target partition. that sda3 has 2 subvolumes, 1 for / and other for /home, they are the places to which i am trying to install. | 05:06 |
fsmithred | what are the device names for those subvolumes? | 05:07 |
fsmithred | something like a /dev/mapper/ name maybe? | 05:07 |
waynedpj | fsmithred hmm, not sure what you mean. with Btrfs they are all located on the same device i.e. /dev/sda3. that partition is actually LUKS1 encrypted so yes, i access it via /dev/mapper/storage but again the subvolumes are still in that device .. unless i am not following? | 05:08 |
waynedpj | for example i mount the subvolumes always using the same device /dev/mapper/storage | 05:09 |
fsmithred | and they both mount together? | 05:09 |
fsmithred | I mean at the same time | 05:09 |
fsmithred | there needs to be some way to name the subvolumes so the installer knows where to put /home and / contents | 05:10 |
fsmithred | it uses rsync | 05:10 |
fsmithred | if you were going to rsync something to one subvolume, what would the target be? | 05:10 |
fsmithred | if you tell the installer to put the whole system on /dev/mapper/storage, it will do that | 05:11 |
fsmithred | if you tell it to put / on /dev/mapper/storage and then tell it to put /home on /dev/mapper/storage you will get an error telling you that you can't use that partition again. | 05:12 |
waynedpj | yes, they both mount together but to different mount points: the mount command for Btrfs can take an option that selects which subvolume of the device to mount | 05:12 |
waynedpj | OK if it uses rsync then can i simply give it the path to the root and home subvolumes since they are mounted: /mnt/home /mnt/root ? | 05:13 |
fsmithred | um, i don't think so | 05:14 |
fsmithred | the installer wants to mount the partitions you give it | 05:14 |
fsmithred | well, that might not be too difficult to hack | 05:14 |
fsmithred | possibly just comment out the mount lines | 05:14 |
fsmithred | (it's a bash script) | 05:14 |
fsmithred | or change it to the btrfs mount command | 05:15 |
fsmithred | waynedpj, please post the following on your thread at dev1galaxy: | 05:16 |
fsmithred | output of mount when the subvolumes are mounted | 05:17 |
fsmithred | the btrfs mount commands you use | 05:17 |
fsmithred | I need to sleep now. Can look at it tomorrow. | 05:17 |
waynedpj | fsmithred me too, thanks for the help, will try to find you tomorrow. good night! | 05:18 |
fsmithred | and anything else you think I need to know. | 05:18 |
fsmithred | g'night | 05:18 |
fsmithred | https://refracta.org/docs/readme.refractainstaller.txt | 05:19 |
fsmithred | waynedpj, ^^^ | 05:19 |
waynedpj | thanks. from what i can see might be easier to use netinst to install to existing Btrfs, will research some more before chatting. thanks again! | 05:20 |
ejr | what could be the reason that after upgrading to beowulf on a minimal devuan installation all of a sudden things like network-manager are removed (which i installed myself),, several packages like my i3wm statusbar as well, and xserver only works when i log into it with root? is that a known issue? | 10:51 |
buZz | ejr: huh, network-manager works without systemd? since when | 10:51 |
buZz | my x server worked totally fine after distupgrading to beowulf | 10:52 |
ejr | buZz: it always did as far as I know, at least I had it running without systemd before | 10:54 |
ejr | just delete some lines in the interfaces file and change some lines in NetworkManager.conf | 10:55 |
rrq | I made 2020-01-09-1-devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_i386_desktop.iso with a few captain's calls and then the top of the popcon:vote list | 10:56 |
rrq | 3 | 10:56 |
buZz | i386? :O | 10:56 |
onefang | I still have a couple of i486s here I use for embedded work. | 11:01 |
adga137 | hello, friends!. | 14:14 |
adga137 | exists irc chat for speak spanish users | 14:42 |
adga137 | ?? | 14:42 |
fsmithred | adga137, I think so | 14:47 |
fsmithred | I don't know the name of the channel | 14:47 |
fsmithred | Look around here - https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=23 | 14:48 |
yeti | telegram has some spanish devuan stuff | 15:32 |
yeti | #devuan-es has 1 user says alis | 15:33 |
yeti | maybe the topic should be "back soon, meanwhilke grab a cookie | 15:34 |
g4570n | o/ | 16:03 |
g4570n | We need to recover that channel: #devuan-es, ran out of admin. Some dev of the project could retrieve it for us by talking with the Freenode staff | 16:04 |
g4570n | yeti: do you speaks spanish? | 16:05 |
yeti | no | 16:07 |
TwistedFate | Hello | 16:45 |
TwistedFate | How can I monitor Ryzen 3000 series CPU temperatures? | 16:45 |
TwistedFate | Using Devuan unstable with 5.4 kernel | 16:45 |
fsmithred | lm-sensors | 16:49 |
fsmithred | TwistedFate, are you on the 3000 now? | 16:50 |
TwistedFate | fsmithred: yes | 16:51 |
TwistedFate | lm-sensors is giving confusing information | 16:52 |
TwistedFate | such as this https://paste.debian.net/hidden/88933665/ | 16:52 |
fsmithred | temps look good. I don't believe the 128 | 16:54 |
fsmithred | did you run sensors-detect? (I haven't needed to do that lately.) | 16:54 |
TwistedFate | fsmithred: yeah, ran that one before running sensors | 16:57 |
TwistedFate | but the thing is, i don't see per core temps anywhere | 16:57 |
TwistedFate | nor a proper CPU temperature | 16:57 |
TwistedFate | like i did with intel i5 before | 16:57 |
fsmithred | I think that would be lines 24 and 25 | 16:58 |
TwistedFate | fsmithred: i'm not even sure anymore.. after reading bunch of stuff on the interwebz, i got an impression it's the lines 40 and 41 | 16:58 |
TwistedFate | but i don't know anymore >.< | 16:59 |
fsmithred | yeah, k10temp would be cpu | 17:00 |
fsmithred | is it 4 cores? | 17:00 |
TwistedFate | it's 6 cores 12 threads | 17:00 |
fsmithred | ok, I was thinking maybe AUXTIN0-3 corresponded to cores | 17:00 |
fsmithred | do some cpu-intesive stuff and check temps every couple seconds | 17:01 |
TwistedFate | God, gnu+linux is a hot mess | 17:04 |
TwistedFate | i can't believe they haven't figured out the temperatures yet | 17:04 |
TwistedFate | i want to do some heavy compiling but i can't because i'm worried it's gonna overheat my CPU | 17:05 |
fsmithred | maybe a shutoff temp setting in bios | 17:06 |
fsmithred | you could set it lower for safety | 17:06 |
tuxd3v | TwistedFate, can you do a 'lsmod' ? | 17:11 |
tuxd3v | what is your motherboard? | 17:12 |
tuxd3v | depending on the Motherboard...Ausus /MSI you could need to compile a kernel module diferent.. | 17:13 |
TwistedFate | tuxd3v: yea, it's MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX https://paste.debian.net/hidden/afa97388/ | 17:13 |
tuxd3v | Ausus -> Asus | 17:13 |
tuxd3v | you already have the sensor package installed 'nct6775-dkms' | 17:17 |
tuxd3v | to a sensors-detect again nd check what it reports.. | 17:17 |
tuxd3v | there are another driver for the temp sensor.. | 17:17 |
tuxd3v | MSI or use 'it87-dkms' or what you have 'nct6775-dkms' | 17:19 |
tuxd3v | usually Asus chean with 'nct6775-dkms' I believe | 17:20 |
tuxd3v | I haven't it , but there are tons of people cmplaining about that subject, in the web :S | 17:20 |
tuxd3v | chean -> cheap | 17:22 |
tuxd3v | in previous ryzens they have a ~30°C offset | 17:25 |
tuxd3v | but I believe the kernel module already make calculations with those values.. | 17:26 |
minnesotags1 | Um, Devuan packages down? | 19:50 |
minnesotags1 | W: Failed to fetch http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'packages.roundr.devuan.org' | 19:53 |
TwistedFate | i keep getting that from time to time | 19:56 |
TwistedFate | thought it was only me and that my connection/PC was at fault | 19:56 |
TwistedFate | but looks like it's not | 19:56 |
scaniatrucker | TwistedFate: frlom my side no problems with apt update. Works smooth | 20:04 |
onefang | Try deb.devuan.org. | 20:10 |
onefang | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html if you want to know the status of Devuan mirrors. | 20:11 |
onefang | Though don't believe the speed it gives sledjhamr.org, it's running on that server, so that's disk speed, not network speed like the others. lol | 20:12 |
golinux | minnesotags: Use deb.devuan.org. Country code mirrors are not set up properly. | 20:19 |
golinux | Should have read all the scrollback | 20:20 |
golinux | At least I get to say hi to minnesotags :D | 20:20 |
DonkeyHotei | minnesotags1: ^ | 20:27 |
golinux | Hmmm . . . tab gave me minnesotags without the 1 | 20:29 |
DonkeyHotei | it's a client setting | 20:31 |
golinux | It usually gets it right | 20:31 |
gnarface | try repeated tabbing | 20:34 |
gnarface | it gives me minnesotags on the 3rd try | 20:34 |
gnarface | minnesotags1 is the first in the slot | 20:34 |
gnarface | for some reason MinceR is between them | 20:35 |
gnarface | it must be cached based on channel join order or something | 20:35 |
gnarface | MinceR (ignore me) | 20:35 |
MinceR | :) | 20:35 |
DonkeyHotei | hexchat give the choice between A-Z order and Last-spoke order | 20:37 |
DonkeyHotei | in prefs | 20:38 |
gnarface | ah, i haven't looked at that recently | 20:38 |
cousin_luigi | Greetings. | 21:29 |
Xenguy | What's up cuz? | 22:37 |
Xenguy | ^^ reminds me of Mr Robot | 22:37 |
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