| Criggie | any ideas on how far away devuan for pi4 is ? | 01:05 |
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| tuxd3v | I believe that are there still components to migrate from rpi kernel to mainline kernel.. | 01:13 |
| gnarface | Criggie: someone successfully managed to make an unofficial one already | 01:13 |
| gnarface | Criggie: (by shoehorning a devuan rootfs onto a raspbian img, i think) | 01:14 |
| gnarface | (or maybe it was Ubuntu. i forget) | 01:14 |
| Criggie | meh - much as I love screwing round with things, reliability is higher-than-normal for this build | 01:15 |
| tuxd3v | the uniq option for now seems to be using the rpi kernels and its firmware blobs.. | 01:17 |
| tuxd3v | I am now toying with a rockpi4A | 01:18 |
| tuxd3v | and I don't know why, but I am getting a lot of trouble to set u-boot correctly | 01:18 |
| tuxd3v | :D | 01:18 |
| tuxd3v | its like crazy.. out of 50 boot attempts, it only try to boot 1 | 01:19 |
| tuxd3v | :D | 01:19 |
| tuxd3v | also it tries to run 'fsck.ext4' without I mencioning it elsewere | 01:19 |
| tuxd3v | so he does things secretly behind the stage.. | 01:20 |
| tuxd3v | I am now on the 3rd image for it.. | 01:20 |
| tuxd3v | even not having 'fsck.repair=yes' it still tries to do it.. | 01:21 |
| gnarface | ext4 might be the actually worst possible filesystem for a raspberry pi | 01:22 |
| tuxd3v | I am using it for other sbcs for rootfs, for /boot I just go with ext2.. nojournaling | 01:23 |
| tuxd3v | but f2fs seems a good option | 01:23 |
| gnarface | i'd almost suggest trying anything else at all, but after extensive testing i can recommend primarily xfs and reiserfs (even on crappy flash cards ext4 will thrash) but i hope that f2fs turns out to be what they claim it to be (haven't had the guts to try that one myself yet though) | 01:23 |
| gnarface | yes, i agree on ext2 for /boot. just make it read-only and it doesn't need a journal. then boot is much faster. | 01:24 |
| gnarface | if you're still using ext4 then you can use that driver's ext2 compatibility mode, which can save you having to have extra filesystem drivers | 01:24 |
| gnarface | but i've had really bad luck with ext4 and usb or sd flash storage | 01:25 |
| tuxd3v | gnarface, you mean using only ext4 one, and them disabling journaling? | 01:25 |
| gnarface | like enough different separate bad incidents, all explainable, to note a statistically absurd failure rate compared to every single other option | 01:25 |
| gnarface | tuxd3v: ext4 *with or without journaling* - disabling journaling just makes it unravel faster | 01:26 |
| gnarface | tuxd3v: the read-only ext2 /boot trick is safe though because nothing is ever writing to that partition | 01:26 |
| tuxd3v | gnarface, right :) | 01:27 |
| tuxd3v | f2fs is in my option list for rootfs | 01:27 |
| tuxd3v | zram too | 01:28 |
| tuxd3v | for swap | 01:28 |
| tuxd3v | with lz4 algo | 01:28 |
| kritias | ayyy peoples, just dropped in to say "hackaton" on the page https://devuan.org/os/install should be "hackathon". peace | 01:49 |
| mason | Unless we want people to hack a ton. | 02:38 |
| hemimaniac | or two | 02:41 |
| djph | ^ | 02:42 |
| golinux | That page has been completely rewritten on beta.devuan.org and in effect has been deleted. | 02:43 |
| golinux | The link to the beta was published in the beta announcement. | 02:44 |
| golinux | Note. I had nothing to do with the original install page. :) | 02:44 |
| elc79 | Hi | 10:37 |
| elc79 | I tried to install ircd-hybrid but i'm stuck at "Starting Hybrid 8 IRC Server" | 10:37 |
| gnarface | elc79: read the docs. i think you have to wirte a config first... | 10:49 |
| gnarface | not sure about that | 10:49 |
| Unit193 | There should be an example config, of course. | 11:05 |
| Human_G33k | hello some of you try to use wireguard on devuan | 11:54 |
| hightower3 | Hey I am trying out a ppc64le install and see two issues: (1) the machine has Aspeed graphics which is supported by driver 'ast', found in package xserver-xorg-video-ast. However, this package seems to install the .so in a directory which is not searched by X when it starts, so driver is reported missing. Then issue (2) after I symlinked it, it couldn't load it due to "undefined symbol: ioBase". | 13:52 |
| hightower3 | (the install worked I mean, this is an issue with X after installation) | 13:52 |
| fsmithred | hightower3, thanks. That should probably get a debian bug report. | 15:33 |
| fsmithred | I'm sure we don't fork that package. | 15:34 |
| kiwi_58 | How can I change the keybord? After install I can not type su-passwort, because the keybord is that wrongly chosen. So I am locked, what can or shall I do? | 15:43 |
| fsmithred | dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | dpkg-reconfigure locales | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | maybe you already did second one | 15:44 |
| kiwi_58 | ... | 15:46 |
| kiwi_58 | Ok, but I can not reach root, shall I reboot and try "chroot" into APT? | 16:07 |
| fsmithred | kiwi_58, yeah, I guess that would work easier than trying to copy/paste into a terminal. (I've done that) | 16:33 |
| fsmithred | chroot and edit /etc/default/keyboard | 16:35 |
| fsmithred | or just boot a live-CD, mount the partition and edit the file. | 16:37 |
| kiwi_58 | Thanks, that what I did, what happened after reboot, is another issue: The boot screen gave kinda broken asci-Arts after grub menu, this is well for the knoppix toggled the graphic ship firmware sowhat. Any pointer now to troubleshooting flipping graphic on spooky devices? | 17:19 |
| kiwi_58 | tia | 17:19 |
| kiwi_58 | Shall I try boot parameters? | 17:20 |
| kiwi_58 | So what happens in such cases of spooky hardware, I would (learn to) file a bug report of undetected graphics and would the be glad for a pointer to follow. | 19:11 |
| gnarface | kiwi_58: bugs.devuan.org (but you should make sure to check bugs.debian.org first to make sure it's not already reported there) | 23:42 |
| sacioz | hello ...I need a bit of help regarding beowulf , please. | 23:57 |
| gnarface | just ask, sacioz. you don't need permission. | 23:59 |
| sacioz | All looks good , but I get no net connection from the 'puter out...this one sits on another hd | 23:59 |
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