| fonky | hi | 00:32 |
|---|---|---|
| fonky | where is the dpkg list stored in /var | 00:32 |
| fonky | list of packages | 00:32 |
| fonky | broke system :) | 00:32 |
| rrq | /var/lib/apt/lists | 00:34 |
| fonky | ty | 00:35 |
| udo | %i18nde | 01:01 |
| udo | %n i18nde | 01:01 |
| _abc_ | Hello. I do not see a /etc/init.d/dahdi in ascii, asterisk requires it. The packages for dahdi are installed. Does anyone know where it's start script lives? In which package? | 01:19 |
| fsmithred | _abc_, maybe this? /usr/share/doc/dahdi/examples/init.conf.sample | 01:38 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: did not think to look there. Thanks. | 01:42 |
| _abc_ | Ok, that is not an init.d startup file, just params | 01:43 |
| _abc_ | /usr/share/doc/dahdi/examples/50-asterisk is closer | 01:43 |
| _abc_ | nope | 01:44 |
| _abc_ | dahdi.ko is missing even though relevant packages are installed. | 01:45 |
| _abc_ | ascii is stretch? | 01:47 |
| _abc_ | I have no idea how to make dahdi work under ascii | 01:49 |
| _abc_ | Giving up. | 01:49 |
| fsmithred | yeah, ascii is stretch | 01:52 |
| fsmithred | did older versions have an init script? | 01:52 |
| _abc_ | Nope. It is generated when building dahdi from source | 02:15 |
| _abc_ | dahdi generates a .ko and an init script. Quote from makefile output per web link I found: "DAHDI tools installed successfully. | 02:15 |
| _abc_ | If you have not done so before, install init scripts with: | 02:15 |
| _abc_ | make config" | 02:15 |
| _abc_ | So one has to build the source of dahdi by hand. I assume there is a script in the source package dahdi_source | 02:16 |
| _abc_ | I also half assume a modern enough dahdi will generate systemd scripts not init scripts. But I'll ask in #asterisk some day. Thanks for the patience, moving on to zzz a bit. | 02:17 |
| tponaf | yes | 07:21 |
| fugitive | Hi. Is beowulf current stable ? https://beta.devuan.org says it is, but there are some broken link, and I am confused, since domain is `beta`.devuan.org | 08:56 |
| golinux | fugitive: Beowulf is beta just like the beta website. | 08:58 |
| golinux | It will be stable soon. Issues are with the installer | 08:58 |
| fugitive | don't mind that. Cool, will upgrade tonight :) | 09:00 |
| stovepipe | beowulf grub boot says debian still | 09:06 |
| golinux | fugitive: Do read the Release Notes | 09:07 |
| Joril | stovepipe: modify GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR inside /etc/default/grub | 09:12 |
| fugitive | golinux: yep, did already | 09:18 |
| golinux | :) | 09:19 |
| stovepipe | lol me changing it wont help | 09:20 |
| stovepipe | i was pointing it out to whoever owns that part | 09:21 |
| meep_____ | Doobien | 09:56 |
| ejr | not sure if this fits into here or into #mate, but is there a way to install nm-applet without install all the gnome packages that come with network-manager-gnome? (running devuan 3.0) | 13:50 |
| Joril | ejr: what does it try to pull? | 13:53 |
| ejr | hmm, I'm not logged into that system now, but essentially hunreds MBs of packages. Installed is only a bare-minimum mate + Xserver and nothing else (I only need a mate DE with network-manager, no extra mate applications) | 13:56 |
| Joril | mmh strange, on my system (I have MATE too): | 14:01 |
| Joril | # apt-get install network-manager-gnome | 14:01 |
| Joril | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 14:01 |
| Joril | dns-root-data dnsmasq-base libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmm-glib0 libndp0 libnm0 libnma0 libqmi-glib5 libqmi-proxy libteamdctl0 | 14:01 |
| Joril | mobile-broadband-provider-info modemmanager network-manager network-manager-gnome | 14:01 |
| ejr | i'll check, one sec | 14:02 |
| ejr | ok, strange, now it only tries to install very few packages, like p11-policy and gnome-keyring. I guess the earlier massive load was because of some previous installations/dependencies...sorry for the confusion and thanks | 14:06 |
| aitor | hi | 14:38 |
| tponaf | hello Guest15643 \ | 14:44 |
| Guest15643 | hello tponaf :) | 14:44 |
| tponaf | what are you working on Guest15643 | 14:45 |
| Guest15643 | simple-netaid | 14:45 |
| Guest15643 | today i started a qt version | 14:45 |
| tponaf | purpose? | 14:45 |
| Guest15643 | today i also removed all the warnings thown by gcc during the compilation of libnetaid | 14:46 |
| Guest15643 | the purpose is LxQT | 14:46 |
| Guest15643 | there are no warnings now, and no segmentation faults: | 14:46 |
| Guest15643 | http://www.gnuinos.org/screenshots/Captura%20de%20pantalla_2020-03-31_14-41-40.png | 14:46 |
| Guest15643 | it took me a lot of work | 14:47 |
| tponaf | is there a readme i can peruse? | 14:48 |
| onefang | What does it actually do? | 14:49 |
| Guest15643 | tponaf: today i'm fisnishing the ncurses interface; so, the usage will be very intuitive | 14:49 |
| Guest15643 | there will be readme file anyway | 14:50 |
| Guest15643 | what does it actually do? | 14:50 |
| Guest15643 | the ncurses interface shows the information about the network connection: the IP address, the MAC address, the broadcast, the netmask, etc... | 14:52 |
| tponaf | i like this Guest15643 | 14:52 |
| tponaf | i have made some system status script using unicode | 14:52 |
| Guest15643 | including whether the wire is plugged or not | 14:52 |
| tponaf | cool | 14:53 |
| Guest15643 | *i have made some system status script using unicode*, good | 14:53 |
| Guest15643 | it also shows if the network devices are UP | DOWN | 14:54 |
| tponaf | it's all in bash, and the scrolling updates are still way too slow http://0x0.st/iMLl.png | 14:55 |
| Guest15643 | and you can bring up|down them (similar to "ip link set <device> up|down", but witten in C) | 14:55 |
| tponaf | nice | 14:56 |
| tponaf | i might use that | 14:56 |
| Guest15643 | i'll notify the release in the mailing list | 14:57 |
| Guest15643 | i've been using it together with wicd, getting a lot of failures with the second one | 14:58 |
| Guest15643 | but simple-netaid still never failed for me | 14:58 |
| Guest15643 | i caused network flashing deliverately, trying to connect/disconnect several times but not flushing all the designed ip addresses | 15:02 |
| Guest15643 | it causes intermittencies in the network connection, and the status icon of wicd fails | 15:03 |
| Guest15643 | and depending on the way used during the disconnection, wicd might stop working | 15:06 |
| Guest15643 | i'm happy with the work done in the libnetaid shared library: it'ĺl provide a lot of C utilities concerning with networking stuff | 15:09 |
| tponaf | i'd like a way to auto-reconnect wlan if it goes down | 15:11 |
| tponaf | no gui | 15:11 |
| Guest15643 | installing libnetaid you can use: | 15:13 |
| Guest15643 | void wireless_connection("wlan0") | 15:13 |
| Guest15643 | in a very simple C program | 15:14 |
| Guest15643 | this afternoon i'll share the definitive packages of libnetaid, and i'll document the usage, ok? | 15:15 |
| Guest15643 | the libgiomm dependency shown in the screenshoot above is superfluous,and i have to remove it from CMake | 15:18 |
| Guest15643 | only glib-2.0 is required, due to segmentation fault when using the sprintf function in netproc.c | 15:20 |
| Guest15643 | this segmentation fault disappears replacing it by g_strdup_printf (this is for getting the mac address) | 15:21 |
| Guest15643 | see you later, bye :) | 15:21 |
| Tenkawa | well I'm very impressed so far with what I see with Devuan.. if there are devs here good job and keep up the effort.. I will definitely be following | 16:24 |
| tponaf | hi Tenkawa - using it for personal or professional use? | 16:35 |
| Tenkawa | tponaf: starting personal but am a retired sysadmin.. focused on raspberry pi development now | 16:37 |
| tponaf | devuan arm is pretty nice | 16:38 |
| Tenkawa | yeah I want to try to work on efforts to port it to the 4 | 16:38 |
| Tenkawa | 2 of us just got native Debian 64 bit ported from scratch working on the 4 | 16:38 |
| specing | Tenkawa: why broadcom why >_< | 16:39 |
| Tenkawa | heheheh | 16:39 |
| Tenkawa | because I'm stuck at home with a lot of spare time | 16:39 |
| Tenkawa | (force retirement at a very young age gave me a lot of time to work on this stuff) | 16:40 |
| specing | Tenkawa: why can't you people use more open boards like the olimex ones, from a small company that actually cares about FOSS? | 16:40 |
| Tenkawa | I've been working on linux development since 1994 | 16:40 |
| specing | instead of working for free for that megacorp | 16:40 |
| Tenkawa | specing: I have 3 of those | 16:40 |
| specing | 3 of those what? | 16:41 |
| Tenkawa | problem is their hardware is horrid | 16:41 |
| Tenkawa | olimes | 16:41 |
| Tenkawa | er olimex | 16:41 |
| Tenkawa | a20's | 16:41 |
| specing | really? In what way? | 16:41 |
| tponaf | i found that opengl mode on pi3 with ethernet was an unstable combination | 16:41 |
| Tenkawa | mind you I use everything headless | 16:42 |
| Tenkawa | I'm strictly a server user | 16:42 |
| Tenkawa | is olimex still making new boards? | 16:43 |
| Tenkawa | I also like FriendlyElec | 16:44 |
| Tenkawa | but hardware specs are hard to come by | 16:44 |
| tponaf | these arm devices feel more human-scale to me | 16:44 |
| tponaf | happily puttering around with ~1GB and 1.2Ghz dualcore | 16:44 |
| Tenkawa | I like my 3 quad core 4 gb ram boxes | 16:45 |
| Tenkawa | :) | 16:45 |
| Tenkawa | you should see distcc+ccache on those guys | 16:45 |
| tponaf | that's really a good idea | 16:46 |
| tponaf | i should distcc with my collection of droid4 phones | 16:46 |
| Tenkawa | thats whats been really nice with the raspberry pi 4 | 16:46 |
| tponaf | what has | 16:47 |
| Tenkawa | the cores and ram at such a low cost | 16:47 |
| Tenkawa | brb.. need to switch my connection | 16:49 |
| tponaf | i'm not a big fan of raspberry | 16:52 |
| Tenkawa | any particular reason? | 16:52 |
| onefang | Tenkawa wont say why Olimex hardware is horrid, tponaf wont say why they are not a big fan of Raspberry. | 16:57 |
| tponaf | 16:41 < tponaf> i found that opengl mode on pi3 with ethernet was an unstable combination | 16:58 |
| Tenkawa | no.. I didnt say it was horrid | 16:59 |
| Tenkawa | I said i dont like it | 16:59 |
| Tenkawa | its just old and o ut of date | 17:00 |
| Tenkawa | (at least my boards) | 17:00 |
| Tenkawa | none of them have it all right | 17:01 |
| onefang | <Tenkawa> problem is their hardware is horrid | 17:01 |
| Tenkawa | oh | 17:04 |
| Tenkawa | (sorry.. I have short term memory problems..."not being sarcastic") | 17:05 |
| specing | how did you get retired early | 17:05 |
| Tenkawa | medical | 17:05 |
| Tenkawa | which the damage also caused my memory probs | 17:06 |
| golinux | Tenkawa: Check out #devuan-arm and https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=24 | 17:29 |
| Tenkawa | thanks :) | 17:32 |
| tponaf | iptables -F | 17:37 |
| tponaf | iptables: Operation not supported. | 17:37 |
| tponaf | Package: iptables Version: 1.8.2-4 | 17:38 |
| inak | I installed refracta some time ago, but haven't seen any updates last few days. Is that normal, due to work on new beowulf iso? Or is there a file under /etc that I should modify? | 17:38 |
| tponaf | why is iptables not honoring -F (flush the selected chain or all chains) | 17:38 |
| Tenkawa | golinux: going to test that newest image and see if it works | 17:40 |
| golinux | Tenkawa: Let us know how it goes. | 17:46 |
| Tenkawa | will do... setting up now | 17:48 |
| fsmithred | inak, only recent updates I've seen are web browsers and thunderbird. They've been there at least a few days and I haven't taken them yet. | 17:49 |
| fsmithred | I'm talking about beowulf. If you're on ascii, it might be pretty quiet. | 17:49 |
| tponaf | if anyone wants pale moon browser for devuan arm, i have some config file and patches that yield a working build | 17:52 |
| inak | fsmithred: I'm on beowulf. Thanks for the info :) | 17:54 |
| Tenkawa | got the macine up | 18:18 |
| Tenkawa | going to need to do some work and updating first because the kernel is direly behind | 18:18 |
| Tenkawa | would not read the internal nic on boot | 18:19 |
| Tenkawa | yay for wired | 18:19 |
| tponaf | do you use iptables Tenkawa | 18:39 |
| tponaf | wonderinf if /sbin/iptables -F gives you an error | 18:39 |
| Tenkawa | on occasion.. I put ib a 5.4 kernek and now we're all good | 18:41 |
| Tenkawa | the kernel did not see the device at all | 18:42 |
| Tenkawa | it was not a iptables problem | 18:42 |
| Tenkawa | er 5.4 kernel | 18:42 |
| tponaf | k | 18:42 |
| Tenkawa | wireless is up and humming away | 18:42 |
| Tenkawa | next will be to run tests | 18:43 |
| tponaf | and scrambling your dna :) | 18:43 |
| Tenkawa | my dna was already scrambled | 18:43 |
| Tenkawa | lol | 18:43 |
| mn3m | Hi there... Is there any plans to add snapd (https://packages.debian.org/stretch/snapd) to Devuan? | 21:02 |
| mn3m | probably it's blocked by deps from systemd, but is there any bug reports? | 21:02 |
| tponaf | i don't think we're very interested in running systemd'd packages | 21:03 |
| Tenkawa | tponaf: so far so good on the rpi4 build... about to build an optimized kernel | 21:05 |
| tponaf | ++ | 21:05 |
| Tenkawa | this thing flies | 21:05 |
| tponaf | i'm happy with the nvidia jetson nano, aside from their kernel | 21:06 |
| mn3m | tponaf, Why systemd package? I see from description it's package manager... | 21:06 |
| tponaf | mn3m: snap is bad | 21:06 |
| Tenkawa | tponaf: I've thought about getting one of those | 21:07 |
| mn3m | I have nothing to argue, but when you have software in snap - how you will run it? | 21:07 |
| tponaf | by apt installing it from devuan or compiling it mn3m | 21:07 |
| Tenkawa | snap is just a way to run it in a tmpfs really | 21:08 |
| Atari-Frosch | Quick question: I just found that I cannot start a video DVD on my new Devuan installation. I posted this dmesg entries – https://pastebin.com/6WBkHJC1 – and someone on Twitter told me that libdvdcss might be missing, and that I could retrieve it from deb.multimedia.org. Now I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to use this repo in Devuan. What should I do? | 21:08 |
| Tenkawa | snaps are nice but before ubuntu I cant even remember them being around | 21:09 |
| tponaf | loki games used to just ship the libraries their games needed with the game | 21:13 |
| tuxd3v | Tenkawa, offcourse snapns were created by Ubuntu iirc | 21:14 |
| tponaf | though i haven't had to do this, my understanding is that statically linking will get you a (fairly) portable binary | 21:14 |
| fsmithred | Atari-Frosch, make sure libdvdnav4 and libdvdread4 are installed. If it still doesn't play, you probably do need libdvdcss. It's not included in the repo because it is illegal software in some places. | 21:16 |
| tponaf | that is until systemd came along | 21:16 |
| Atari-Frosch | fsmithred: Both are installed. | 21:19 |
| fsmithred | take the fewest packages needed from deb-multimedia | 21:19 |
| fsmithred | don't leave it enabled in sources.list | 21:20 |
| Atari-Frosch | I just thought about getting the source and compiling it myself. | 21:20 |
| fsmithred | oh. never thought of doing that. | 21:20 |
| fsmithred | that should work. | 21:20 |
| Atari-Frosch | OK. I think in this case that is better than trying deb.multimedia. | 21:20 |
| Atari-Frosch | I was told before, when still working on Debian, that I should try to avoid that repo if possible. | 21:21 |
| Atari-Frosch | It just was not always possible. ;-) | 21:21 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I understand | 21:21 |
| Atari-Frosch | OK, so let's install some devel stuff … | 21:22 |
| fsmithred | you can end up pulling in a lot of stuff that can interfere with versions in repo | 21:22 |
| fsmithred | I'll be outside | 21:23 |
| yeti | Atari-Frosch: build such stuff in a VM of the same os release? | 21:25 |
| Atari-Frosch | yeti: No VM available here. I usually have no need of them. | 21:25 |
| yeti | a chroot? | 21:25 |
| Atari-Frosch | Why should I do that at all? | 21:25 |
| yeti | speeds up cleaning up | 21:25 |
| yeti | after building | 21:25 |
| tuxd3v | Atari-Frosch, ascii has a 'libdvdcss2' package | 21:26 |
| Atari-Frosch | I see. Well, I don't see a problem here. | 21:26 |
| yeti | ok | 21:26 |
| Atari-Frosch | oh? | 21:26 |
| tuxd3v | but its not what youthink it is.. | 21:26 |
| Atari-Frosch | Not in the repos I use. – So what does that do? | 21:26 |
| tuxd3v | like fsmithred told, this package has the right way to retrieve compile and generate the binaries of libdvdcss | 21:27 |
| tuxd3v | the process is completly automated | 21:27 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 21:27 |
| tuxd3v | it will also retrive code, compile and generate the library ;) | 21:27 |
| Atari-Frosch | I see. But it's still not available here: :~# apt search libdvdcss2 | 21:28 |
| Atari-Frosch | Sorting... Done | 21:28 |
| Atari-Frosch | Full Text Search... Done | 21:28 |
| Atari-Frosch | And then comes the prompt again. | 21:28 |
| Atari-Frosch | deb http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib | 21:28 |
| Atari-Frosch | Perhaps I should active the src packages? | 21:29 |
| yeti | that helpsalot™ | 21:29 |
| tuxd3v | ho.. right now I see it in search but I can't download it too, tough I already have it installed :) | 21:29 |
| tuxd3v | libdvdcss2 in its form is not illigal, as it has no libdvdcss code inside | 21:30 |
| tuxd3v | but will permit you do continue the retrive of code, compile and install it :) | 21:30 |
| tuxd3v | in a automated process | 21:31 |
| Atari-Frosch | OK, I'll active the src packages and see if I can get it then. | 21:31 |
| tuxd3v | so lets call it a meta-package | 21:31 |
| tuxd3v | like fsmithred told above, the real libdvdcss binaries could infringe the laws of some countries | 21:33 |
| tuxd3v | but you are not infringing any laws installing libdvdcss2, because it has no code or binaries on it :) | 21:33 |
| Atari-Frosch | Well, I just want to watch DVDs I bought. ;-) | 21:33 |
| * tuxd3v me too, I will see now matrix revolution :) | 21:34 | |
| Atari-Frosch | Unfortunately, after activating the src packages and apt-get update, libdvdcss2 is still not available :-( | 21:34 |
| Atari-Frosch | tuxd3v: Have fun. Stargate SG1 Season 10 is waiting for me. | 21:34 |
| Tenkawa | tponaf: I actually didnt realize snaps were created by Ubuntu.. never been a big user of Ubuntu... played around with it a few times but it always felt like it was trying to control too much | 21:40 |
| Atari-Frosch | … as soon as I have a working libdvdcss2 … | 21:40 |
| Tenkawa | Atari-Frosch: lol thats what I'm watching right now | 21:41 |
| Tenkawa | for the third time | 21:42 |
| Atari-Frosch | Tenkawa: :-D | 21:42 |
| tuxd3v | Atari-Frosch, but.. | 21:42 |
| Tenkawa | trying to intertwine between it and Atlantis' episodes | 21:42 |
| tuxd3v | you can install 'libdvd-pkg' | 21:42 |
| tuxd3v | in the process it will ask you some questions | 21:43 |
| Atari-Frosch | tuxd3v: That is there, yes. | 21:43 |
| tuxd3v | later you can do a 'dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg' | 21:43 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 21:43 |
| Atari-Frosch | And that would do the trick? | 21:44 |
| tuxd3v | I believe yes | 21:44 |
| tuxd3v | just try it | 21:44 |
| Atari-Frosch | ok | 21:44 |
| tuxd3v | apt-get install --reinstall libdvd-pkg | 21:45 |
| tponaf | Tenkawa: a 'solution' that's just a band-aid creating more problems, imo | 21:45 |
| tuxd3v | when it finishes you can run ''dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg' | 21:45 |
| Tenkawa | tponaf: no.. had to.. they ran on the same night back to back originally so if I dont the storyline gets messed up | 21:48 |
| Tenkawa | or are you talking snaps? | 21:48 |
| Tenkawa | heheh | 21:49 |
| Tenkawa | the snaps always seem like a potential setup for inconsistent errors | 21:50 |
| * tuxd3v tuxd3v is eating popcorns :P | 21:50 | |
| Tenkawa | Atari-Frosch: you said season 10 right? | 21:51 |
| Tenkawa | I'm on season 10 ep 4 atm | 21:52 |
| tponaf | tuxd3v: i suggest getting coconut fat to pop them in, around 200-204°C | 21:56 |
| tponaf | also popcorn will keep in storage for 10 years. i have confirmed this. | 21:56 |
| Tenkawa | ugggh I'm getting hungry | 21:56 |
| Tenkawa | heehee | 21:56 |
| Tenkawa | we are on major lockdown here | 21:57 |
| * tuxd3v tuxd3v is feeling that somebody wants his precious popcorns.. :) | 21:57 | |
| tponaf | i also reccommend flavocal butter-flavored popcorn salt (original recipe) | 21:58 |
| MinceR | there's no need to include your nick explicitly in an ACTION (/me) :> | 21:58 |
| tuxd3v | Globally, there are more than 800000 people infected now.. | 21:58 |
| tuxd3v | and rising.. | 21:58 |
| Atari-Frosch | Tenkawa: yes, 10. I'm on the second DVD, ep 7 or so. | 21:58 |
| Tenkawa | ouch | 21:58 |
| Tenkawa | Atari-Frosch: is this first time through? | 21:59 |
| Atari-Frosch | Tenkawa: For me, yes. | 21:59 |
| Tenkawa | ahh | 21:59 |
| Tenkawa | great show eh? | 22:00 |
| tponaf | what television series are you talking about Tenkawa | 22:00 |
| Atari-Frosch | tponaf: Stargate SG1 | 22:00 |
| Tenkawa | make sure you watch Atlantis at some point too | 22:00 |
| Atari-Frosch | Tenkawa: Yes it's great, and I plan to order Atlantis when I'm through :-) | 22:00 |
| Tenkawa | both are on Hulu | 22:00 |
| Atari-Frosch | I buy DVDs, so I cannot be tracked and can watch it whenever I want. :-) | 22:01 |
| Tenkawa | (I have all of them all on dvd but watch streaming out of convenience) | 22:01 |
| Atari-Frosch | HA! That's it! tuxd3v, I did what you said, and the DVD just started in VLC \o/ | 22:01 |
| Tenkawa | let em track me.. I dont care | 22:01 |
| Tenkawa | if they are that bored... | 22:02 |
| tuxd3v | Atari-Frosch, yeah, nice movies now | 22:02 |
| * tuxd3v Atari-Frosch don't tell nothing to fmishtred, because now he will be jealous of us :D | 22:03 | |
| tuxd3v | Atari-Frosch, 'libdvd-pkg' - the magic packet :) | 22:04 |
| Atari-Frosch | :-D | 22:09 |
| Atari-Frosch | Yeah, indeed. | 22:09 |
| Atari-Frosch | OK, then good night for now, I'll be watching Stargate, thanks to you :-) | 22:09 |
| TwistedFate | ugh.. i think i corrupted my usb flash thumbdrive by removing it before it was unmounted | 22:10 |
| TwistedFate | how can i completely wipe it and make it all good? :3 | 22:10 |
| Tenkawa | TwistedFate: you "sure:" you corrupted it? | 22:11 |
| tuxd3v | TwistedFate, make fsck on it :) | 22:11 |
| Tenkawa | what were you doing when you pulled ir? | 22:11 |
| Tenkawa | yeah I was going to advice a fsck | 22:11 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: i was copying files to it and kde/plasma dolphin said that it was complete, but in reality it was still writing to it | 22:11 |
| Tenkawa | er advise | 22:11 |
| Tenkawa | system or just random? | 22:12 |
| TwistedFate | i can't belive that gnu+linux still doesn't have a proper file transfer progress report | 22:12 |
| tuxd3v | TwistedFate, the linux cache is ... damm | 22:12 |
| tuxd3v | do always a sync before pulling it | 22:12 |
| Tenkawa | thats not "linux's" responsibiloty | 22:12 |
| TwistedFate | tuxd3v: i did sync but it hanged | 22:13 |
| Tenkawa | its the filsystems | 22:13 |
| TwistedFate | so i removed it | 22:13 |
| tuxd3v | if it hangged it was because it was still writing :( | 22:13 |
| TwistedFate | i also noticed it changed from /sdd to /sde | 22:13 |
| Tenkawa | you definitely had blocking io | 22:13 |
| Tenkawa | i bet dmesg was ugly | 22:13 |
| TwistedFate | oh yes, yes indeed :3 | 22:14 |
| TwistedFate | [183354.488562] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 9214368 op 0x1:(WRITE) flags 0x4800 phys_seg 256 prio class 0 | 22:14 |
| TwistedFate | [183354.488567] Buffer I/O error on dev sde1, logical block 1151540, lost async page write | 22:14 |
| TwistedFate | [183354.488683] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 9216416 op 0x1:(WRITE) flags 0x4800 phys_seg 256 prio class 0 | 22:14 |
| TwistedFate | [183354.488809] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 9218464 op 0x1:(WRITE) flags 0x800 phys_seg 14 prio class 0 | 22:14 |
| TwistedFate | bunch of those | 22:14 |
| Tenkawa | hmmm | 22:14 |
| Tenkawa | thats actually potentially media errors | 22:15 |
| Tenkawa | what kind of media/drive? | 22:15 |
| Tenkawa | ahh you said usb | 22:15 |
| TwistedFate | kingston usb3 flash thumbdrive | 22:15 |
| TwistedFate | yes | 22:15 |
| Tenkawa | very old? | 22:15 |
| TwistedFate | not really, a couple of months old | 22:16 |
| Tenkawa | yeah thats not very old | 22:16 |
| Tenkawa | I've burned up a few but its taken a LOT longer | 22:16 |
| TwistedFate | you think the usb thumbdrive itself is bad? | 22:16 |
| Tenkawa | well.. start with the full fsck | 22:17 |
| Tenkawa | make sure it comes back cleab | 22:17 |
| Tenkawa | er clean | 22:17 |
| TwistedFate | how do i do that? | 22:17 |
| Tenkawa | boot in single user | 22:17 |
| Tenkawa | then run e2fsck -fy /dev/devicename | 22:18 |
| Tenkawa | is it ext2 or msdos? | 22:18 |
| TwistedFate | i can't remember, it's either ntfs or ext4 | 22:19 |
| Tenkawa | you can try just fsck -fy /dev/thatdevice | 22:19 |
| Tenkawa | ie /dev/sdb1 | 22:19 |
| TwistedFate | i don't have it connected right now | 22:19 |
| Tenkawa | i know | 22:19 |
| TwistedFate | but i can check later | 22:19 |
| Tenkawa | I'm just telling you how | 22:19 |
| Tenkawa | if you have an install cd/usb disk you can use rescue mode to check it from there | 22:20 |
| TwistedFate | why rescue mode though? | 22:26 |
| Tenkawa | TwistedFate: its made for checking/rescueing broken installs with utilities and such | 22:37 |
| Tenkawa | alo safest way to mount the disks | 22:37 |
| Tenkawa | er also | 22:37 |
| Tenkawa | especially since thats whats suspect right now | 22:38 |
| tponaf | very nice mpv can play bitchute urls directly | 22:51 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: i just checked via gparted | 22:54 |
| TwistedFate | it's showing as sdd again, it's ext4 | 22:54 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: should i just do fsck -fy /dev/sdd? | 22:55 |
| TwistedFate | as root | 22:55 |
| Tenkawa | yes | 22:56 |
| Tenkawa | make sure to put part # | 22:56 |
| Tenkawa | sdd1,2,etc | 22:56 |
| TwistedFate | fsck -fy /dev/sdd1 | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | fsck from util-linux 2.33.1 | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | e2fsck 1.45.6 (20-Mar-2020) | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | Pass 2: Checking directory structure | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | Pass 4: Checking reference counts | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | Pass 5: Checking group summary information | 22:58 |
| TwistedFate | /dev/sdd1: 11/944704 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 84906/3777024 blocks | 22:58 |
| Tenkawa | thats a good sign | 22:58 |
| Tenkawa | ack | 22:58 |
| Tenkawa | only 11 files | 22:58 |
| Tenkawa | oh that might be boot | 22:59 |
| Tenkawa | how many partitions are on there? | 22:59 |
| TwistedFate | just one sdd1 | 22:59 |
| Tenkawa | will it mount like on /mnt | 22:59 |
| Tenkawa | mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt | 23:00 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: it mounted via dolphin file manager | 23:00 |
| Tenkawa | whats in there? | 23:00 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: lost+found dir | 23:00 |
| Tenkawa | is there very many files | 23:00 |
| Tenkawa | oh | 23:00 |
| TwistedFate | freshly formated to ext4 | 23:00 |
| Tenkawa | was anything on it before? | 23:01 |
| TwistedFate | yes | 23:01 |
| TwistedFate | strange, it's not letting me write to it | 23:02 |
| Tenkawa | oh really? | 23:02 |
| Tenkawa | whats the error? | 23:02 |
| TwistedFate | there's no error | 23:02 |
| TwistedFate | just don't have the option to copy in dolphin | 23:02 |
| TwistedFate | erm, paste | 23:02 |
| Tenkawa | open up a shell | 23:03 |
| Tenkawa | run a df | grep sdd | 23:03 |
| TwistedFate | what the heck "touch: cannot touch 'test.txt': Permission denied" | 23:03 |
| Tenkawa | it might be mounted as a diff user | 23:03 |
| TwistedFate | df |grep sdd | 23:03 |
| TwistedFate | /dev/sdd1 14805376 36904 13996684 1% /media/twistedfate/c5762f3a-6fd9-4d94-b5f8-7e0e99e70281 | 23:03 |
| Tenkawa | is there anything in lost+found? | 23:04 |
| furrywolf | did you format it while it was mounted? | 23:05 |
| Tenkawa | furrywolf: no he pulled it | 23:05 |
| Tenkawa | we were hoping coalescing and a fsck might save it | 23:05 |
| furrywolf | ok, I missed too much context to be useful, then. | 23:06 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: i can as root | 23:06 |
| TwistedFate | but not as user | 23:06 |
| Tenkawa | but its not looking good | 23:06 |
| furrywolf | bbl, work | 23:06 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: does this help? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/57534291/ | 23:06 |
| Tenkawa | let me look | 23:07 |
| Tenkawa | no.. go to /media/twistedfate/c5762f3a-6fd9-4d94-b5f8-7e0e99e70281/lost+found | 23:08 |
| Tenkawa | and ls | 23:08 |
| Tenkawa | anything in there? | 23:08 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: no https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a0919698/ | 23:09 |
| Tenkawa | yeah looks like it is just gone | 23:09 |
| Tenkawa | ouch | 23:09 |
| Tenkawa | at least the media is still good | 23:10 |
| TwistedFate | what is gone? | 23:13 |
| TwistedFate | the data or the usb thumbdrive (hardware)? | 23:13 |
| TwistedFate | brb | 23:13 |
| Tenkawa | devuan-arm 5.5.13-v8 #1 | 23:14 |
| Tenkawa | thats my pi4 | 23:14 |
| Tenkawa | TwistedFate: the data | 23:15 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: i don't care about data, i formated the drive on purpose | 23:16 |
| TwistedFate | i just need it to work | 23:16 |
| Tenkawa | ah cool | 23:16 |
| Tenkawa | yeah it looks good | 23:16 |
| TwistedFate | i zapped it | 23:28 |
| TwistedFate | then made new mbr | 23:28 |
| TwistedFate | and formated it to ext3, mounted it, chowned it to my user and now i'm copying file via terminal (cp) | 23:29 |
| TwistedFate | hopefully it wont screw me over like dolphin | 23:29 |
| Tenkawa | good luck | 23:31 |
| TwistedFate | does any of know how to create a bootable windows 10 usb flash thumbdrive from a gnu+linux system? | 23:37 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: sigh.. terminal showed me the prompt after 'finishing' the copy, then i ran 'sync' and now it just hangs.. | 23:45 |
| mason | TwistedFate: sync not coming back means it's still writing, not hung | 23:45 |
| mason | TwistedFate: you'll see errors in dmesg if it actually hangs, and even they might be illusory, as I've seen USB writes throw hung task warnings but still finish | 23:46 |
| Tenkawa | how much are you copying? | 23:47 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: a little less than 5 gigs | 23:47 |
| mason | bbiab anyway | 23:47 |
| Tenkawa | it could take a while | 23:47 |
| TwistedFate | why would the terminal give me the prompt before it finished copying? | 23:48 |
| TwistedFate | hmm looks like it's done | 23:48 |
| TwistedFate | freaking gnu+linux | 23:48 |
| Tenkawa | n | 23:48 |
| Tenkawa | no | 23:48 |
| Tenkawa | thats a unix thing | 23:48 |
| Tenkawa | disk buffers | 23:48 |
| mason | TwistedFate: Buffering. This is all normal. | 23:48 |
| Tenkawa | its io cache | 23:48 |
| Tenkawa | completely normal | 23:49 |
| mason | TwistedFate: Be grateful to sync(1) for not having you pull out the USB stick before it finished writing. | 23:49 |
| TwistedFate | this is weird, 'umount fleska/ | 23:50 |
| TwistedFate | umount: /home/twistedfate/fleska: target is busy.' | 23:50 |
| Tenkawa | what directory are you in? | 23:50 |
| TwistedFate | shouldn't it unmount without problems when copying and sync are done? | 23:50 |
| TwistedFate | /home/twistedfate | 23:51 |
| Tenkawa | do a fuser -cu /home/twistedfate/fleska | 23:51 |
| Tenkawa | to find out what has it locked | 23:51 |
| TwistedFate | fuser -cu /home/twistedfate/fleska/ | 23:51 |
| TwistedFate | /home/twistedfate/fleska: 5283c(twistedfate) | 23:51 |
| Tenkawa | now ps and see what that is | 23:52 |
| TwistedFate | huh it's gone | 23:52 |
| TwistedFate | unmounted now | 23:52 |
| Tenkawa | it might have been the indexer | 23:52 |
| Tenkawa | theres a search indexer i think by default for removeable media | 23:53 |
| TwistedFate | seems to be ok now | 23:54 |
| Tenkawa | cool | 23:54 |
| TwistedFate | my other PC reads it, copying the file now | 23:54 |
| Tenkawa | good deal | 23:54 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: do you by any chance know how to create a bootable usb flash thumbdrive | 23:55 |
| TwistedFate | for windows 10, from gnu+linux? | 23:55 |
| Tenkawa | I saw a reference on google to something called woeusb | 23:55 |
| TwistedFate | that bloody thing doesn't work | 23:55 |
| Tenkawa | oh ok | 23:55 |
| TwistedFate | i tried to compile it from source and to install it from a third party repo on two different distros | 23:56 |
| TwistedFate | none worked | 23:56 |
| Tenkawa | did you try woeusb-ng too? | 23:56 |
| TwistedFate | Tenkawa: i haven't | 23:59 |
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