meep_____ | Sacioz, I crave to dot-matrix printers | 00:53 |
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meep_____ | They are very well built, lat a long time, and are easy to fix | 00:53 |
Walex | meep_____: that's the same for most mechanical things | 01:05 |
Walex | meep_____: but that's an engineer's point of view. What matter today are the marketing and finance points of view. | 01:06 |
Walex | fundametally that's also the point of view that motivated some old UNIX hands to retroactively fork Debian from Devuan :-) | 01:07 |
Walex | the idea that 'systemd' and its close relationship to DBUS have created a complicated, fragile, harder to maintain "something" at the core of the operating system. | 01:08 |
* Walex preaches to the choir :-) | 01:09 | |
cush | that's important to do, tbh | 01:11 |
meep_____ | Are you sure that's what "matters today"? Because regardless of the age your going to need things that work and work well unless you don't expect your business to last. Also there are always going to be sleazy salesman trying to sell you something shiny built upon glue and duct tape | 01:13 |
Walex | meep_____: unfortunately most management, and their opinion is what matters, don't want "business to last | 01:14 |
Walex | meep_____: unfortunately most management, and their opinion is what matters, don't want "business to last", but grab as much as they can as quickly as they can and retire. | 01:14 |
Walex | meep_____: consider the fantastic complexity and fragility of the ineptly named "node.js" ecosystem, and delirious things like "microservices". | 01:15 |
Walex | meep_____: things like Devuan (and its 'systemd'/DBUS flavoured fork, Debian :->) are the product of the desire to engineer for the long term, but they are just a small fraction of what's happening in the IT ecosystem; e.g. Android, where most products based on it are basically abandonware by design. | 01:18 |
* Walex starts to realize that this may be seen as a "kids today" sort of argument | 01:19 | |
Walex | BTW I have two Ubuntu phones as a "reserve" and for some tasks an Android one, but with "ONE", that is updates from Google, so it is not as abandonware as others. | 01:20 |
meep_____ | Walex: it's not a "kids today" argument | 01:35 |
meep_____ | Just look at most companies in the 90s dotcom boom | 01:35 |
meep_____ | All the abandon-ware of the 90s | 01:35 |
meep_____ | And what we still have with us today | 01:35 |
meep_____ | Software like icecast | 01:35 |
meep_____ | Vs all those internet explorer browser toolbar addons | 01:36 |
meep_____ | Xchat/Hexchat | 01:37 |
meep_____ | Which i'm sure most of you are probably using right now | 01:37 |
meep_____ | And I just made an ebuild from some UNIX astronomy software originally made in 1987 to build on a modern Gentoo system | 01:38 |
meep_____ | With Motif | 01:38 |
meep_____ | The API stability of libnova astounds me | 01:38 |
meep_____ | I guess you built it right the first time you don't have to keep rebuilding the same thing every vew months/years | 01:39 |
cush | yes | 01:39 |
meep_____ | https://upload.nuegia.net/f1949f91-f268-47c6-8b7c-453c5eec024b/screenshot.png | 01:40 |
golinux | Please take this chatter to #debianfork | 01:40 |
golinux | Thanks | 01:40 |
cush | meep_____: looks neat | 02:31 |
mcr | It sounds like beowulf is getting closer to release? | 03:40 |
Xenguy | mcr: People are saying beowulf is quite stable, but I haven't tried it yet myself. | 04:06 |
Xenguy | There may be issues with the installer still, but dist-upgrade from Ascii should be as expected... | 04:08 |
Xenguy | There are doubtless how-to's around and about. | 04:08 |
mcr | cool. I had tried a dist-upgrade about a month ago, but the repo didn't exist yet :-) | 04:17 |
mcr | I won't upgrade now, because I don't have time to cope with any issues... and gosh, I'd have to restart my X-server. | 04:17 |
mcr | obiwan-[~](2.6.5) mcr 10003 %uptime | 04:17 |
mcr | 22:17:35 up 252 days, 9:14, 37 users, load average: 0.53, 0.41, 0.50 | 04:17 |
mcr | :-) :-) | 04:18 |
mason | mcr: I run Beowulf in a bunch of different roles. It's quite usable and stable. | 04:21 |
mcr | good. I will upgrade this week, but just not exactly now. | 04:28 |
mcr | I just stubbed my toe on not having python >3.6... | 04:29 |
meep_____ | I don't care for beowulf | 04:40 |
meep_____ | they moved a lot of useful applications to gtk3 | 04:41 |
meep_____ | so they are slower and themes break and look like something from apple ios 6 | 04:41 |
golinux | This ^^^ :( | 04:47 |
meep_____ | Somebody (probably me) is going to have to fork Thunar | 04:47 |
meep_____ | While I am at it too | 04:48 |
meep_____ | Fork xfce core utils | 04:48 |
cush | i didn't notice things breaking with gtk apps | 04:48 |
cush | besides my theme integration being a PITA every time | 04:48 |
meep_____ | That way they won't require elogind for power management | 04:48 |
meep_____ | cush: gtk3 theming is broken beyond all repair | 04:49 |
cush | i have a nice dark setup now, somehow | 04:49 |
cush | after doing lots of stuf i don't remember | 04:49 |
meep_____ | Gnome ripped out the old theming system and replaced it with a bastardized version of css | 04:49 |
cush | ah | 04:49 |
cush | yeah qt does something similar? | 04:50 |
meep_____ | Nah | 04:50 |
meep_____ | You can use qt5-style-plugin to apply gtk2 themes to qt seemlessly | 04:50 |
cush | is gimp still gtk2? | 04:50 |
meep_____ | I strongly advocate throwing out all gtk3 stuff and sticking with gtk+qt5 | 04:50 |
meep_____ | Yes | 04:50 |
meep_____ | So is libreoffice | 04:51 |
cush | those work nice | 04:51 |
meep_____ | And gmusicbrowser | 04:51 |
meep_____ | ยป [19:51:07] <cush> those work nice | 04:51 |
meep_____ | probably because they didn't switch to gtk3 | 04:51 |
cush | you any good with gstreamer? | 04:51 |
cush | :) | 04:51 |
meep_____ | Not gstreamer but ffmpeg | 04:51 |
cush | i could chase people down the street with gstreamer questions | 04:51 |
cush | ok | 04:51 |
cush | nice | 04:51 |
cush | i got ffplay accelerated for some things on jetson nano | 04:52 |
cush | but i still don't have solid 720p playback | 04:52 |
cush | it's a sorry state with these gpu issues on arm linux | 04:52 |
cush | but i'm thinkin of going to wayland | 04:53 |
meep_____ | prolly not a good idea | 05:09 |
meep_____ | mpv has a really good interface for accelerated ffmpeg video | 05:09 |
cush | yeah but sadly not possible on jetson nano | 05:10 |
cush | ffmpeg not supported | 05:10 |
meep_____ | what? | 05:10 |
meep_____ | lmfao | 05:11 |
meep_____ | thanks for letting me know | 05:11 |
meep_____ | I will never buy a jetson | 05:11 |
meep_____ | if that is the case | 05:11 |
meep_____ | hey btw | 05:12 |
cush | i was looking at odroid N2 - nice nice but, no gpu for X11 | 05:12 |
meep_____ | I don't think it's out of the ordinary | 05:12 |
meep_____ | cush: I have a 6th generation Bronxton intel igpu | 05:12 |
meep_____ | if I load the guc with firmware the hardware hangs and crashes | 05:12 |
meep_____ | and the guc is needed to activate x265 hardware decoding | 05:13 |
meep_____ | so I think it's just an intel thing where intel is just really bad at hardware codec accel | 05:13 |
cush | hrmph | 05:13 |
meep_____ | good thing it's fast enough for software x265 decoding, but I can't transcode 4k x265 realtime | 05:14 |
meep_____ | just 1080P | 05:14 |
cush | mhm my cortex a57s aren't really solid above 480p | 05:15 |
meep_____ | I've seen people with amd gpus | 05:17 |
meep_____ | even older small ones meant for workstation use | 05:17 |
meep_____ | they have pretty good hardware decoders | 05:17 |
golinux | Please take non-support chatter to #debianfork | 05:17 |
cush | yeh well if i learn a bit of wayland i should be fine | 05:17 |
cush | running xapps in xnest or whatever | 05:18 |
golinux | Please . . . | 05:18 |
meep_____ | are you sure there's no ffmpeg support or just the version your using has it compiled out | 05:18 |
golinux | Thanks | 05:19 |
ullet | No package 'gnome-vfs-2.0' found | 10:50 |
ullet | ah it's old | 11:34 |
ShorTie | blaaa, E: Couldn't find these debs: libncurses-dev | 16:50 |
ShorTie | is that not a valid package for ascii amd64 ?? | 16:51 |
ShorTie | i need libncurses.so | 16:51 |
D-HUND | mayhap libnurses5-dev? | 16:56 |
D-HUND | well, with out typos but with the "5" | 16:56 |
fsmithred | apt-file says libncurses-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so | 16:58 |
fsmithred | how are you trying to find it? (sorry, it's libncurses5-dev in ascii.) | 17:00 |
ullet | why is the .so in the -dev | 17:01 |
fsmithred | 'cause that's the way debian does it | 17:01 |
fsmithred | been like that for a long time | 17:02 |
ullet | oh well i don't have to understand everything | 17:02 |
fsmithred | if you look hard enough, you can probably find the reason they decided to do it that way | 17:03 |
ShorTie | i get libncurses-dev when doing arm64, but not for amd64 | 17:04 |
ShorTie | debootstrap just can't find it .. :/~ | 17:05 |
debdog | ShorTie: https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libncurses.so&mode=filename&suite=oldstable&arch=any | 17:05 |
ShorTie | it found it with the 5, Thankz | 17:07 |
ullet | apt-file search libncurses.so | 17:14 |
ullet | libncurses-dev: /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so | 17:14 |
ullet | on arm here | 17:14 |
ShorTie | so it seems like it is a ascii thing, as switching to beowulf has fixed things | 18:09 |
ShorTie | Thankz Guys for the help | 18:09 |
ullet | if i'd have been in charge here, i'd have used 'unicode' instead of 'beowulf' | 18:46 |
furrywolf | and what, ebcdic next year? :P | 18:46 |
DonkeyHotei | there is no solar system object named ebcdic afaik | 18:47 |
ullet | :) | 18:47 |
ullet | one could also use great works of literature as theme | 18:47 |
ullet | i have completed my first dpkg-buildpackage in a few years | 18:48 |
ullet | from my own project | 18:48 |
ullet | wew lots of things can go wrong | 18:48 |
MinceR | is Unicode a great work of literature? :> | 18:48 |
ullet | i think beowulf is and that die is cast | 18:49 |
furrywolf | no one's named an asteroid ebcdic, even though we have an ascii? no love for ibm? :P | 18:52 |
MinceR | no love for ibm, especially now | 18:53 |
ullet | what did ibm do? | 18:58 |
golinux | ullet: Devuan distro names are chosen from the list of minor planet names. | 18:58 |
MinceR | they obtained card-carrying apple shill status, then bought redhat and had redhat continue everything as before | 18:58 |
golinux | Please take this OT to #debianfork | 18:59 |
golinux | https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/lists/MPNames.html | 19:00 |
golinux | Chimaera will follow Beowulf | 19:00 |
golinux | ullet: You are over 5 years late to that decision | 19:01 |
golinux | to use minor planet names. Please troll elsewhere. | 19:01 |
furrywolf | I'm pretty sure they were making a joke, not trolling. | 19:03 |
golinux | Not doing a very good job and OT for this channel anyway. | 19:04 |
mason | Either way, only support here, social (or antisocial) chatter, next channel over. | 19:04 |
furrywolf | I thought it was somewhat funny. unicode did come after ascii, and everything... | 19:05 |
golinux | It is stupid and OT and a disregard for Devuan | 19:06 |
golinux | And posted on the wrong channel. | 19:06 |
meep_____ | ullet: IBM DID NOTHING WRONG | 19:21 |
meep_____ | No jk | 19:21 |
GLAT-agent | CHEAP GNU/LINUX LICENSES $49 SINGLE USER | 20:51 |
GLAT-agent | PM TO PURCHASE | 20:51 |
telst4r | lul, trying to SCO us, eh? | 20:52 |
bgstack15 | I'll sell you a GNU/Linux license for only $39/workstation, no artificial user limitations! (Uses pam, though) | 20:54 |
invalidlicensed | You are running non-genuine GNU/Linux copy. PM to purchase a license. | 21:30 |
ullet | my 640kB brain forgot how to make debian packages and relearning is painful as it pushes out other knowledge | 21:31 |
systemdlete | I have installed a wireless pci card, but lspci does not seem to show it. I see 3 ethernet cards listed, which is correct (one on the board, plus 2 nics I added). But the wireless nic does not show in lspci. I am running ascii with all the latest updates. lshw does not show it either. | 21:32 |
systemdlete | ullet: Did you reboot your brain before you started making packages? That might clear the page tables and help you concentrate. | 21:35 |
systemdlete | If that doesn't work, try pushing a pencil into your left ear while holding your breath and pinching your nose. That should reset everything. | 21:36 |
ullet | this sounds like a plan systemdlete | 21:37 |
ullet | to your problem, i haven't had to deal with pci network cards and linux in a couple of decades so all i can think of is to check for driver support for that particular card | 21:37 |
ullet | be sure the appropriate kernel module is loaded | 21:38 |
mason | systemdlete: Any hint of it in dmesg? | 21:39 |
systemdlete | only once! | 21:39 |
systemdlete | it says it is renaming wlan0 to wlx08863b023097 | 21:39 |
systemdlete | (I think that's its mac address) | 21:39 |
mason | systemdlete: What's the model of card? | 21:40 |
systemdlete | I have forgotten. I obtained it years ago, and I don't even remember how. | 21:41 |
systemdlete | I'd have to shutdown, take it out, and try to decipher whatever little shrift is there. | 21:41 |
systemdlete | It is a pci-e and it is for wireless ac | 21:42 |
systemdlete | It seems to load the rtl8192c driver, if that helps any | 21:42 |
systemdlete | I can rmmod it, so it is not likely being used by the other nics, which are all active. | 21:43 |
systemdlete | (active, I mean "up" in ifconfig speak) | 21:43 |
ullet | i only can suggest basic problem bisecting | 21:44 |
systemdlete | I opened the case, and I can shine a flashlight on it... there's enough space to almost see what it says. D-link | 21:46 |
systemdlete | I will attempt a picture with my smart phone then try to decode that... | 21:47 |
bgstack15 | ullet: I've been dealing with building dpkgs a lot recently. PM me if you want some help. Basically, you start with a debmake in source dir, adjust debian/ contents, and hit "debuild -us -uc" | 21:48 |
ullet | bgstack15: i think adapting an old broken debian/ control dir ended up creating more work for me, but now i got the problem licked, i think | 21:49 |
mason | systemdlete: Once you've shriven it we can identify a driver and any specific issues. | 21:54 |
systemdlete | I'm shriving right now... having trouble getting the right angle... | 21:55 |
fsmithred | systemdlete, maybe running update-pciids would help | 21:56 |
systemdlete | fsmithred: Did that, thanks. But still no sign of the card. | 22:01 |
fsmithred | and nothing else around the lines where it got renamed? | 22:02 |
systemdlete | interesting... now I am seeing additional messages, later in the boot. The second time it is mentioned, it says it is loading firmware for it... | 22:04 |
TwistedFate | what's the devuan beowulf live user password? | 22:04 |
systemdlete | http://paste.debian.net/1141629/ | 22:05 |
systemdlete | So, it looks like /var/log/dmesg only has dmesg output up to a point; after that I have to go to the dmesg program to get info? | 22:07 |
systemdlete | the /var/log/dmesg file only has 960 lines in it. | 22:07 |
systemdlete | same as the first 960 lines of dmesg output I see | 22:07 |
systemdlete | but that's a different issue | 22:08 |
systemdlete | I don't get why my wireless card is pulling in usb code? | 22:09 |
systemdlete | what is rtl_usb exactly? | 22:09 |
systemdlete | (momentary internet fart coming up, sorry...) | 22:12 |
fsmithred | TwistedFate, devuan:devuan root:toor | 22:14 |
fsmithred | 1.995923] usb usb9: Product: OHCI PCI host controller | 22:17 |
fsmithred | [ 2.081609] usb 1-2: Product: Belkin Wireless Adapter | 22:18 |
fsmithred | [ 2.081610] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Realtek | 22:18 |
systemdlete | Right, I forgot about that one. sorry | 22:18 |
systemdlete | THat is a usb dongle wireless N. | 22:19 |
systemdlete | So that's prob what the rtl-usb is for. | 22:19 |
systemdlete | could it be that both the pci-e card AND the dongle are using the same driver somehow? | 22:19 |
systemdlete | I think I need to shut this thing down and remove the card and get the info from it... | 22:21 |
systemdlete | That way we at least have positive information. | 22:21 |
fsmithred | I don't really understand OHCI PCI host controller | 22:21 |
fsmithred | usb-pci converter of some sort? | 22:21 |
fsmithred | oh, that's the dongle | 22:22 |
systemdlete | I think so | 22:22 |
systemdlete | It's not the pcie card | 22:22 |
systemdlete | Let me reboot. I'll bbs | 22:22 |
* systemdlete kicks himself for not having done this to start with... | 22:23 | |
TwistedFate | what the heck?? | 22:24 |
TwistedFate | chroot: not found | 22:24 |
fsmithred | in beowulf? | 22:24 |
fsmithred | use 'su -' instead of 'su' | 22:25 |
fsmithred | or use the full path to the command | 22:25 |
fsmithred | or fix root's path using one of several possible methods | 22:26 |
TwistedFate | thanks fsmithred | 22:27 |
systemdlete | Well, this time when I rebooted, the device shows up! | 22:44 |
systemdlete | I didn't fully remove it. I started to, then realized I'd have to remove and replace the antennae, and that's a nuisance with all the cables in the back of the box. | 22:45 |
systemdlete | But I did carefully scribe all the info on the card. It's DWA-582 and it's the rt8812AE (from the label on the card) | 22:46 |
mason | systemdlete: So, this Belkin business... Is it a USB controller on a PCI card with a wifi card hardwired to it or somesuch? | 22:46 |
systemdlete | strangely, the module it loads is NOT *8812* but rather rtl8821ae | 22:46 |
systemdlete | mason: No, it is an entirely separate item. That one is a USB dongle supporting wireless N. Please ignore that part. | 22:47 |
mason | kk | 22:47 |
systemdlete | sorry, I had forgotten that part originally | 22:47 |
systemdlete | And I don't plan on running both simultaneously. I am really only experimenting with this card. I am using the USB N for the time being. | 22:48 |
systemdlete | I am hoping the AC adapter will blast my wifi into the bathroom, where I spend some of my best thinking time. | 22:48 |
systemdlete | Right now, the USB N dongle reaches, but it becomes a weak signal, and sometimes craps out completely. | 22:49 |
systemdlete | That's really annoying. Then I have to find something to read instead... and while I like Neibuhr, I sometimes want to do some internet research instead. | 22:50 |
mason | systemdlete: I'm not finding anything useful. I see AU drivers, but not AE. | 22:51 |
ullet | The Machine Stops by E.M. Forster is a short story worth reading systemdlete | 22:51 |
systemdlete | ullet: Thanks for that. Is it online? Or do I have to make homage to King Bezos? | 22:52 |
systemdlete | (ie, buy the book) | 22:52 |
mason | systemdlete: Worst case, there's always stuff like ndiswrapper and the Windows drivers: https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/rtl8812ae-software | 22:52 |
ullet | no it's online, all over | 22:53 |
systemdlete | thanks, ullet. | 22:53 |
mason | That said, I'd go for a better USB adapter, myself. | 22:53 |
ullet | try to not read too much /about it/ first | 22:53 |
systemdlete | mason: I thought ndiswrapper support was jettisoned in linux a while back? | 22:53 |
mason | systemdlete: Stable release a year ago. Dunno. I've never used it. | 22:53 |
ullet | but keep in mind it was published in 1908 or thereabouts | 22:53 |
systemdlete | ullet: did my "technical support" help you? BTW, be sure to use the eraser end of the pencil, OK? | 22:55 |
systemdlete | mason: There was probably a popular revolt and they were forced to bring it back and support it I'm figuring. OK, that is a thought, and I have used it in the past. It's a bit of a pain to set up though. | 22:57 |
mason | systemdlete: It's just odd that I'm finding no reference to your hardware at all. | 22:57 |
systemdlete | maybe they only made one of them and quit | 22:58 |
ullet | pencils are not useful ear-tools. knives, scissors, and Bic pen-caps are. | 22:58 |
mason | I don't think Realtek makes any less than three billion of anything. | 22:58 |
systemdlete | this card has 2 pretyty long (6") antennae, plus it can get power from the PS. I feel that a USB AC dongle won't have the same reach. But I am not expert on this. | 22:59 |
ullet | i had an alfa usb dongle with antenna connector. got stolen | 22:59 |
systemdlete | ullet: Don't use any of those! You could permanently damage whatever delicate circuitry you might have inside. And last I checked, you can't get a replacement for that "component." (and why don't you upgrade for pete sake?) | 23:00 |
systemdlete | Ah, now there's a thought! A usb wireless that has antennae. Maybe I'll look for that. But this "thing" was laying around here and was just screaming to get used. | 23:02 |
systemdlete | gotta reboot now... | 23:03 |
systemdlete | http://paste.debian.net/1141646/ | 23:09 |
systemdlete | Now, after warm reboot, there are messages not there before. It has trouble loading some of the code. | 23:10 |
fsmithred | systemdlete, I see wlan0 and wlan1. Are they both connected? Looks like both are realtek. | 23:15 |
fsmithred | is the pci wireless card new hardware? Have you tried it with a newer kernel? | 23:15 |
systemdlete | When you say "connected" what do you mean? The pci-e card is of course connected, as to the mainboard. The dongle is connected via usb | 23:16 |
fsmithred | attached | 23:16 |
fsmithred | ok | 23:16 |
fsmithred | I thought you were going to pull the card | 23:16 |
fsmithred | firmware-realtek is installed? | 23:17 |
systemdlete | It had better be, given that the rt8821ae module is loaded -- that would be a package dep I'd think? | 23:17 |
systemdlete | And yes it lives in /lib/firmware/rtlwifi | 23:18 |
systemdlete | (both actually) | 23:18 |
fsmithred | ok | 23:18 |
fsmithred | some realtek devices work even if the non-free firmware is not installed | 23:18 |
fsmithred | you usually get a warning that firmware may be missing in that case. | 23:19 |
fsmithred | I would try a beowulf live-iso | 23:19 |
systemdlete | so are the modules in /lib/firmware/rtlwifi free or non-free? | 23:19 |
fsmithred | not sure | 23:20 |
systemdlete | when beowulf goes GA, I'll try that. I prefer to wait for now. | 23:20 |
systemdlete | I'm searching for help now on how to debug failed module load | 23:20 |
fsmithred | except for the installer media, beowulf is ready | 23:20 |
systemdlete | but it is not officially released | 23:21 |
fsmithred | right | 23:21 |
systemdlete | I'm conservative | 23:21 |
systemdlete | It sounds like it will be very soon, and I am willing to be patient for that. | 23:21 |
fsmithred | I'll check for that directory on two laptops | 23:21 |
systemdlete | thanks, fsmithred | 23:22 |
systemdlete | are you going to check on ascii or beowulf? | 23:22 |
systemdlete | ascii is more relevant, atm | 23:22 |
fsmithred | ascii | 23:22 |
systemdlete | great, thanks again | 23:22 |
fsmithred | that dir does not exist on the intel laptop but does exist on the one with realtek wireless | 23:23 |
systemdlete | that makes sense | 23:23 |
fsmithred | so yeah, that coes with the non-free firmware | 23:23 |
fsmithred | comes | 23:23 |
fsmithred | I was suggesting beowulf live-iso as a test. The firmware is already installed. | 23:24 |
systemdlete | I could move the card to my testbox and fool around with beowulf | 23:24 |
fsmithred | boot it and run lspci, ip a, iwconfig or whatever else you want | 23:24 |
systemdlete | lspci shows the card now, fsmithred. That isn't the issue. | 23:24 |
fsmithred | oh | 23:24 |
fsmithred | what's the issue? | 23:25 |
systemdlete | The question, really, is why those modules are not loading (2 *.bin files) | 23:25 |
fsmithred | does the interface work? | 23:25 |
systemdlete | OTOH, maybe it will still work. | 23:25 |
fsmithred | maybe they aren't needed | 23:25 |
systemdlete | right, like you said previously... | 23:26 |
systemdlete | rtl8821ae is loaded, so it seems ready | 23:26 |
systemdlete | I'll try it. | 23:26 |
fsmithred | I have 23 .bin files in that directory | 23:26 |
systemdlete | yes, but how many are for 8821? | 23:27 |
systemdlete | the boot is only trying to load 2 of them, and fails both | 23:27 |
systemdlete | Most of them seem to be for 8192 variants of all sorts | 23:27 |
fsmithred | only one has 8821 in the name | 23:27 |
fsmithred | no, two | 23:28 |
systemdlete | On mine, the last two listed | 23:28 |
systemdlete | ok | 23:28 |
fsmithred | they fail if you manually load them? | 23:29 |
systemdlete | didn't try that | 23:29 |
systemdlete | what is the magic for loading firmware (bin) files? | 23:30 |
systemdlete | Just wondering about usb wireless... wouldn't that be slower than pci-e? | 23:31 |
systemdlete | they'd both be 802.11ac, but maybe the bus speeds are different | 23:31 |
systemdlete | idk about these things really | 23:31 |
fsmithred | modprobe -v rtl8821 then TAB is what I would do | 23:34 |
systemdlete | file /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/* shows they are data files | 23:34 |
systemdlete | fsmithred, as I said, the modules are all loaded. It's those bin files that fail to load | 23:34 |
fsmithred | might be 'modprobe realtek' | 23:34 |
fsmithred | oh | 23:35 |
systemdlete | lol | 23:35 |
fsmithred | unload and reload module | 23:35 |
systemdlete | and you say that will also load the firmware as well? | 23:35 |
fsmithred | it has in some cases | 23:35 |
fsmithred | I've had to do that sometimes when installing firmware | 23:35 |
fsmithred | modprobe -r realtek | 23:36 |
fsmithred | modprobe realtek (add -v if you want it to talk to you) | 23:37 |
systemdlete | well modprobe realtek did not load the 8821 drivers | 23:38 |
systemdlete | but modprobe rtl8821ae does | 23:38 |
systemdlete | but how can I confirm that those firmware files got loaded? | 23:39 |
fsmithred | see if the wireless works | 23:40 |
systemdlete | seems that might be the only way, yes... | 23:41 |
fsmithred | you have a desktop and a network manager of some kind, or is this console only? | 23:41 |
systemdlete | I am using /etc/networking/interfaces to configure my workbox. The wlan0 does come up (I can tell it is the pci-e card, not the usb dongle, mac address!) | 23:42 |
systemdlete | I just need to configure the card so that it broadcasts a SSID, etc | 23:43 |
fsmithred | time for food. bbl. | 23:46 |
systemdlete | thanks for your help, and it does work | 23:50 |
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