libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2020-04-24

qihI have installed Devuan Ascii onto an AMD-64 machine, which previously ran Debian Stretch & Ubuntu with things working. After reboot I notice that the Sound is extremely retarded in speed. For info I am connected using HDMI & Pavucontrol-QT. Any ideas what has happened?00:01
slvrAh geez, I had to install something to get pulseaudio to work correctly but I don't remember what.00:06
slvrbefore I installed it would underrun the buffer often and there was a lot of clipping.00:07
qihslvr: OK. When I installed Ubuntu, it ran flawlessly, when I installed Debian there was some after-install configuring. Will search. Thanks.00:09
slvrthe fix came in with a drum machine I installed...00:09
slvr"dpkg-reconfigure multimedia-tasks" might be it00:10
qihslvr: Ta, checking.00:11
qihOK, installed multimedia-tasks, it's better but still ridiculous00:13
slvrthis is the exact command I ran before things started magically working correctly. "apt-get install drumgizmo drumkv1 drumkv1-lv2 drumstick-tools multimedia-drums"00:14
slvrI think it retuned the audio buffering.00:14
qihHaha cool, drum stuff00:16
buZzdevuan drums? :D00:17
qihSeems this is a common issue; HDMI & Audio across the entire Debian-based range, each time a new Kernal comes out, there is a spike in these HDMI-related issues.00:27
qihs/Kernal/Kernel00:27
qiho/02:31
qihI was able to get normal sound sorted now, still have video chopping, and conference calling is out of the question.02:32
qihAnd the RS780 HDMI Audio [Radeon 3000] still shows as unplugged, so the HDMI is not functioning correctly.02:34
openbsdtai123is there a simple server overleaf installation (collab opensource edit) in debian/devuan with apt-get ??06:10
gnarfaceopenbsdtai123: i don't even understand what type of software you're asking for, but fyi "apt-cache search" can accept a regexp as a search parameter.  that might help you find what you're looking for easier.06:22
openbsdtai123I need a collaborative overleaf server!06:26
openbsdtai123I believe this is ultra important today due to lock down to offer a service like overleaf.06:26
openbsdtai123We are too much ruled by google drives, google services and all apple/ms crap closed source.06:27
rrqyou mean something like "gobby" and friends?06:29
openbsdtai123gobby is not liked much by users.06:30
openbsdtai123the users want a pdf on it06:30
openbsdtai123they have no idea how to run pdflatex... I believe the overleaf is again a chromium thing with a browser, and this is not unix.06:31
openbsdtai123I run already gobby but how to get the PDF... so I need to install overleaf server.06:35
openbsdtai123Or sthg else, light and clean if possible. overleaf if a mem hog.06:35
ullet_no interest.  i want improved Dillo browser07:19
openbsdtai123thank you. hello, is there a way to install devuan just right from source code ?08:18
ullet_idk08:18
openbsdtai123(mini ramdisk, with C compiler, modules, vmlinux/initrd, + fetcher/wget and here we go compile netbase, compile bins, compile passwd,... ?08:19
openbsdtai123a sort of mini ramdisk to compile from source ...08:19
plasma41ullet_: I <3 Dillo08:20
ullet_any experience with fltk?08:23
plasma41openbsdtai123: You can certainly rebuild all the packages. It will just take a long time.08:23
plasma41ullet_: No, sorry08:24
plasma41openbsdtai123: Sounds like you'd be interested in http://bootstrappable.org/projects.html08:26
ullet_plasma41: did you see my GUI design study?08:26
ullet_for dillo08:26
plasma41openbsdtai123: Specifically http://bootstrappable.org/projects/mes.html08:26
plasma41ullet_: I didn't, no08:27
ullet_i'd like the yea or nea from other dillo users.  on ui elements, sizing, removal of scrollbar etc08:28
ullet_https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/36708:28
ullet_i removed the 'cancel loading' button - that can be toggled with an overloaded 'reload' button08:29
openbsdtai123the compilation from source is premium, glad it exists.08:30
ullet_i removed the 'settings' button since that can be reached through the [F]ile menu08:30
ullet_I added shrink/zoom view because that's essential for 3.7-4.5" screens08:30
openbsdtai123sounds amazing. can I debootstrapcc / debootstrapsrc already or it is still beta?08:31
openbsdtai123,maybe, the best would be that this deboostrap from source is linked with CVS, so that one fetch/edit/modify the code08:36
plasma41ullet_: It's late where I am, so I'll look at it tomorrow.08:36
openbsdtai123you like source compiling? good night !08:37
plasma41openbsdtai123: The MES project is a really neat attempt at compiling everything, even the compilers and compilers of compilers, from source.08:39
plasma41Goodnight, y'all08:39
openbsdtai123using tcc is perillious. I tried to compile with tcc and it is really basic. Very good approach.08:40
openbsdtai123it is really amazing that tcc approach may be used. it demands lot of energy, amazing08:40
ullet_cheers plasma4108:40
openbsdtai123see ya08:40
plasma41o/08:40
openbsdtai123concerning collab edit, as a server, we have only infinioted into apt-get ? I use already this. Hopefully there is into apt-get  a sort of overleaf or sharelatex as server or browser?09:30
crhyloveHey all!  What's the best tool for customizing your own linux distro based on devuan?22:16
gnarfacecrhylove: maybe look into refracta, or the devuan build scripts themselves22:40
crhyloveIs refracta still alive?22:41
xrogaanapparently https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=265622:42
crhyloveOh snap!  January 2020 release.  That's not too old.22:42
gnarfacei think it was adopted by someone here22:42
xrogaanisn't it fsmithred's project?22:43
fsmithredyes22:43
fsmithredrefracta is alive.22:44
fsmithredyou want isos or tools?22:44
fsmithredcrhylove, did you find the downloads? There are beta isos made from beowulf22:45
fsmithredand there will probably be newer isos very soon. I've been working on them.22:46
crhylovefsmithred, Nice!  I'm at work atm, but I might mess with this a bit on Sunday. :)22:51
fsmithredisn't today sunday?22:52
crhyloveLOL.  I wish.  Friday here in Hawaii, and I have a job!22:52
fsmithredoh, so you have days of the week22:52
crhyloveSadly, and also luckily, I do.22:54
crhyloveThis is my goal:  http://supermox.me22:55
fsmithredyou know you can just install the tools in any devuan and customize from the ground up22:55
crhyloveI'm thinking I can start with refracta as a base, see about porting an older pre-systemD version of proxmox....22:55
crhyloveYou think that's a better idea?22:55
crhyloveHow would you go about it?22:56
crhyloveMy other plan is to be fairly desktop agnostic.  It would be sweet if one OS could run on all my devices:  Old android phones, tablets, laptops, desktops, servers...22:56
crhyloveBut based on the same devuan core, with proxmox clustering built in to all of them.22:57
crhyloveAmbitious.  I know.22:57
fsmithredif you want a desktop (xfce) I guess it makes sense to start with the refracta iso22:57
fsmithredit's mostly without metapackages, so you can remove pieces without much dependency trouble22:58
fsmithredand I have no idea if it will work on a phone.22:59
fsmithredit's x86 only22:59
crhyloveThe android port would be later.23:00
gnarfacethere's some phones you can get to boot devuan if you build a custom kernel and u-boot23:00
gnarfacemind you, i don't know if they'd still be able to make calls...23:00
crhyloveI'm thinking we can appropriate lots of the android/lineage code for the phone port.23:01
gnarfacebut look into the pine64.org stuff once the shipping lanes open again23:01
gnarfacethey have some stuff designed for linux23:01
gnarfaceincluding one phone23:01
crhyloveYeah, Pine is doing some exciting stuff!23:01
crhyloveAlso one of my upstream inspirations23:01
crhylovefsmithred, Do you not have access to the refracta sourceforge?  Very old .isos on there.23:09
fsmithredyes, I have access23:09
fsmithredI didn't see any reason to take the old isos down as long as jessie is still supported23:10
fsmithredThat lasts until June.23:10
fsmithredI still put packages on sourceforge23:11
crhyloveWhere are the new ISOs though?  And why not on the site/sourceforge?  I mean, at least a torrent! :)23:18
fsmithredcrhylove, I have my own site now. refracta.org23:31
fsmithreddownloads: https://get.refracta.org/23:32
fsmithredlook in the testing directory23:32
crhyloveAhhhh....  I must have been on the old site.23:33
fsmithredyeah, that's still there, too.23:33
fsmithrednot much there23:33

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