plasma41 | Vall: If you're wanting a extra minimal graphical desktop, I'd recommend checking out https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/dbus-free-software.html and https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/devuan-without-dbus.html | 00:09 |
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Vall | plasma41: thanks for the info | 00:34 |
plasma41 | np | 00:34 |
jiefk[p] | Devuan users, hello ! Not sure if my question is related at all to Devuan, but I'm just seeking for general answers or hints anyway ^^" : How come bash crashes when I remote-detach screen ? | 06:57 |
jiefk[p] | > screen -DRR | 06:57 |
jiefk[p] | > [remote power detached from 10008.pts-1.devuan] | 06:57 |
jiefk[p] | >Warning: Program '/bin/bash' crashed. | 06:57 |
trogplar | why do you need -DRR | 07:00 |
trogplar | i suggest raising the issue with screen developers | 07:02 |
jiefk[p] | An old habit trogplar :) Also, man screen suggested it some years-time ago | 07:39 |
jiefk[p] | > -D -RR Attach here and now. Whatever that means, just do it. | 07:40 |
trogplar | maybe i never have bash crashing cause i don't use it. that's just a guess though. | 07:41 |
trogplar | sorry i don't know the cause | 07:41 |
trogplar | This paper presents a dataset of 174 malicious software packages that were used in real-world attacks on open source software supply chains, and which were distributed via the popular package repositories npm, PyPI, and RubyGems. | 08:14 |
trogplar | https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.09535 | 08:14 |
trogplar | preprint paper. might be useful if you have a manager who insists pulling in thousands of packages is 'safe' | 08:15 |
gnarface | trogplar: that's more of a topic for #debianfork | 08:22 |
gnarface | jiefk[p]: i don't know, but i'm curious if tmux behaves any better for you | 08:22 |
trogplar | roger that gnarface - i thought some admins in corporate would actually have a use for the info though | 08:33 |
openbsdtai123 | hello | 12:11 |
openbsdtai123 | I have devuan on arm64 / raspberry pi rpi3b (model b), and I would like to fetch the repository on my openbsd server, in order to offer (Offline) on my httpd server the pkgs. | 12:12 |
openbsdtai123 | Is it possible to fetch using NCFTP the full arm64 ascii repository? which ftp addr would be recommended ? | 12:12 |
trogplar | openbsdtai123: afaik most of the packages are hosted on debian's servers | 12:13 |
trogplar | apt mirror would handle this transparently. so you can make a shared directory on the openbsd server, and apt mirror it to there, using the rpi3b | 12:14 |
trogplar | afaik. i haven't done this myself. | 12:15 |
openbsdtai123 | I thought the dir [pool] / packages would be on the NL ftp : https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/devuan/ | 12:15 |
djph | apt-mirror, or apt-cacher-ng, I think | 12:16 |
xinomilo | rsync + cron | 12:17 |
xinomilo | apt-cacher-ng is apt proxy/local caching, not offline repo. | 12:18 |
openbsdtai123 | I desired to fetch it over ncftp ... with wget -R. | 12:20 |
xinomilo | mirrors with ftp enabled are listed here : http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt | 12:24 |
openbsdtai123 | thank you | 12:24 |
openbsdtai123 | not like this? ncftp ftp.pkgmaster.devuan.org | 12:25 |
openbsdtai123 | ah ok | 12:25 |
openbsdtai123 | got | 12:25 |
openbsdtai123 | seems to work ok, ncftp ftp.fau.de | 12:26 |
openbsdtai123 | seems good and well populated . ncftp ftp.pkgmaster.devuan.org . super | 12:28 |
gnarface | xinomilo: apt-cacher-ng does have a mirroring feature though | 12:29 |
gnarface | "Guided precaching (Mirroring) | 12:30 |
gnarface | Apt-Cacher NG supports a massive download of package files referenced in a specified set of index files. This is configured with the PrecacheFor configuration option (see config examples and manual for details)." | 12:30 |
openbsdtai123 | I usually use the ftp, it works over 40 years ;) | 12:30 |
gnarface | "In special cases this feature can be used to create a local partial mirror where the cache internal structure of packages mostly represents the contents of the remote package archive and includes everything apt might want to download." | 12:30 |
gnarface | (there's some option checkboxes and a "Start Mirroring" button under that) | 12:31 |
xinomilo | gnarface, could be. | 12:31 |
gnarface | maybe not the perfect solution but it has the benefit of being easy to set up | 12:32 |
xinomilo | but seems too much trouble, comparing to rsync repo | 12:32 |
xinomilo | i'm using apt-cacher-ng daily | 12:32 |
xinomilo | but without much disk space, so.. weekly cache expiration | 12:32 |
openbsdtai123 | On openbsd, I still haven't discovered xz yet ;) old kind of nix :) | 12:32 |
onefang | It's best to not use pkgmaster for grabbing everything. That's our central mirror server that all the other mirrors rsync to, and we don't want to overload it with random people downloading the lot. | 12:34 |
openbsdtai123 | rsync is indeed for this perfect. | 12:35 |
openbsdtai123 | btw, does teamviewer work on devuan (without systemd)? | 13:47 |
xinomilo | yes, unfortunately.. | 13:48 |
openbsdtai123 | why unfortunately? | 13:48 |
xinomilo | was looking for a reason not to use it, but it does work | 13:48 |
xinomilo | don't like it really | 13:48 |
openbsdtai123 | why? | 13:49 |
xinomilo | proprietary crap | 13:49 |
xinomilo | but without any foss alternatives around... | 13:49 |
openbsdtai123 | yep, propr. crap - indeed | 13:49 |
openbsdtai123 | good info about TV : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZW6E6Pl0-k | 13:50 |
openbsdtai123 | 3 sec: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs7PmoHpNhA | 13:51 |
bgstack15 | I use TeamViewer on Devuan, and it works mostly fine. I think my connectivity issue is related to the fact that I have wicd-gtk connect to the network only after I log in my X session. | 13:52 |
openbsdtai123 | ask me why people want to use all the time proprietary software? I cannot explain. | 13:53 |
xinomilo | once upon a time there was a foss alternative, gitso. gitso didn't need forwarding firewall rules in routers.. like teamviewer. so it was pretty straight forward to use. | 13:57 |
openbsdtai123 | I didnt know about gitso. good to hear that attempts. TV is prop. so people run for it. kids ;) | 13:59 |
openbsdtai123 | gitso for teamviewer, what about Skype? Is there an opensource (non sip, but skype like)? | 14:32 |
trogplar | qtox | 14:33 |
openbsdtai123 | cool to hear | 14:33 |
xinomilo | jitsi meet | 14:34 |
xinomilo | gitso is dead for many years now, unusable | 14:34 |
openbsdtai123 | does it goes through wall of fire ? | 14:38 |
onefang | Jitsi has screen sharing I think. | 14:40 |
onefang | Devuan devs use Jitsi for our weekly video meetings. | 14:41 |
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