| frabbit | is anyone using surf here from suckless? | 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| frabbit | https://surf.suckless.org/ | 00:22 |
| sauron- | had no idea that existed | 00:27 |
| frabbit | sauron-: i thought frodo and sam defeated u!1! =O | 00:27 |
| sauron- | those 2 useless hobbits didnt kill me, it was smeagol | 00:28 |
| frabbit | ur right... | 00:29 |
| buZz | yeah i use surf every now and then | 00:29 |
| frabbit | but smeagol is or was also a hobbit ;) | 00:29 |
| buZz | one of the only browsers that really works with touchscreen OOB | 00:29 |
| sauron- | i use surfraw | 00:29 |
| sauron- | well not all the time | 00:29 |
| frabbit | buZz: ah cool. what webkit do u use? | 00:30 |
| frabbit | sauron-: surfraw? | 00:30 |
| sauron- | yeap | 00:31 |
| * frabbit looks 4 surfraw | 00:31 | |
| buZz | frabbit: i install it from repo | 00:31 |
| sauron- | frabbit https://gitlab.com/surfraw/Surfraw | 00:32 |
| frabbit | sauron-: interessting =) | 00:32 |
| frabbit | buZz: hu? o_0 but that is not safe as i thought..? | 00:32 |
| buZz | frabbit: what? | 00:36 |
| buZz | i dont know what you think man | 00:36 |
| frabbit | buZz: i lost the bookmarks for that issue... D= | 00:36 |
| frabbit | it was then when i was using midori, that i red somewhere, that the webkit in the debian repos is old and not secure | 00:37 |
| frabbit | man where did i out that?! | 00:37 |
| buZz | i'm not using it for anything that requires security | 00:37 |
| frabbit | buZz: ok but i want to... | 00:38 |
| frabbit | i stopped using luakit for the same reason | 00:38 |
| frabbit | also a nice browser | 00:38 |
| buZz | i dont even know if it uses -debians- version | 00:38 |
| buZz | i just use chromium mostly | 00:39 |
| buZz | 579 open tabs atm | 00:39 |
| frabbit | i dont want google | 00:40 |
| frabbit | but ff annoyeds me | 00:41 |
| frabbit | i dont want bloated sotware | 00:41 |
| frabbit | tons of features i didnt asked for and wich are opt put or even hardcoded... | 00:42 |
| frabbit | *opt-out | 00:42 |
| sauron- | surf is in the repos surf/stable 0.7-2 amd64 | 00:42 |
| frabbit | sauron-: i know luakit too ;) | 00:42 |
| sauron- | i didnt | 00:42 |
| sauron- | lol | 00:42 |
| frabbit | but as i said ive red about security problems with that webkit it is using... | 00:42 |
| frabbit | sauron-: oh sorry i had to say that | 00:43 |
| frabbit | sauron-: please dont hunt me with ur orcs... | 00:43 |
| sauron- | frabbit np | 00:43 |
| frabbit | =D | 00:43 |
| frabbit | ah! | 00:45 |
| frabbit | found something | 00:46 |
| frabbit | https://luakit.github.io/ | 00:46 |
| frabbit | scroll down to "Important WebKit Security Notice" | 00:46 |
| frabbit | oh | 00:46 |
| frabbit | As of September 2019, Arch, Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, and Ubuntu all have the latest version of WebKitGTK+ | 00:46 |
| frabbit | thats new xD | 00:46 |
| frabbit | but its been a while since i red that, maybe 3 years or so | 00:47 |
| frabbit | so i made panic for nothing... whoops.. '^_^ | 00:48 |
| buZz | :) | 00:50 |
| frabbit | in the past debian was the same like suse | 00:53 |
| frabbit | about webkit | 00:53 |
| frabbit | hm or the luakit version in the repos is the problem here? its from 2012... | 00:58 |
| frabbit | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/luakit_2012.09.13-r1-8+b1.html | 00:58 |
| frabbit | libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 | 00:58 |
| frabbit | seems like... | 00:59 |
| frabbit | surf using higher versions but whats the difference between surf and surf2? | 01:00 |
| frabbit | buZz: wich one do u use? | 01:00 |
| buZz | surf2 | 01:05 |
| frabbit | buZz: ok and whats the difference? | 01:10 |
| frabbit | faster, more secure, more functions | 01:10 |
| frabbit | ? | 01:14 |
| buZz | not sure | 01:17 |
| frabbit | sauron-: surfraw is pretty cool =D | 01:18 |
| frabbit | surfraw -browser=lynx wikipedia surfraw | 01:18 |
| frabbit | buZz: oh take a look at the dependencies, surf2 depends on libs only | 01:21 |
| frabbit | surf depneds on curl, stterm, suckless-tools.... | 01:21 |
| frabbit | *depends | 01:22 |
| g4570n | frabbit: I think it is, because surf2 uses a new gkt webkit engine | 01:54 |
| sauron- | frabbit thanks!!!! | 01:59 |
| sauron- | glad you liked it. | 01:59 |
| frabbit | g4570n: i see =) | 02:00 |
| sauron- | hey g4570n!!! | 02:01 |
| frabbit | sauron-: yw its awesome! i mean diff the time usage: open webbrowser, navigate to a site, scroll to the search mask, bring cursor in that search mask, type the string(s), hit enter <-diff-> surfraw webiste searchstring, enter | 02:03 |
| sauron- | u can even set gui browser or cli browser | 02:04 |
| sauron- | or output directly in terminal | 02:05 |
| frabbit | sauron-: yes i set -browser=lynx | 02:08 |
| sauron- | im testing https://surf.suckless.org/ | 02:09 |
| g4570n | sauron-: o/ | 02:09 |
| frabbit | sauron-: cool | 02:09 |
| frabbit | me too | 02:09 |
| golinux | How is this a Devuan support discussion? | 02:11 |
| frabbit | golinux: err.. searching on devuan.org as fast as speedy gonzales? <=D | 02:13 |
| frabbit | *erm* | 02:13 |
| sauron- | comments on surf, looks great, using alias adding > /dev/null 2>&1 & can be useful as a quick web browser | 02:17 |
| frabbit | sauron-: ah not here use /msg frabbit foobar ^_^' | 02:18 |
| frabbit | but thx ;) | 02:18 |
| sauron- | mmm right, for irc the /msg, for .bashrc / .zshrc the alias | 02:19 |
| sauron- | ok, made this bash script | 02:22 |
| sauron- | https://pastebin.com/r8YzKe93 | 02:22 |
| sauron- | wait, need to fix something | 02:23 |
| sauron- | #!/bin/bash next line surf $1 > /dev/null 2>&1 & | 02:24 |
| sauron- | for alias: alias sur='bash ~/Documentos/Scripts/surf' | 02:25 |
| sauron- | to execute: sur 'http://tinyurl.com/y95d3scq' | 02:25 |
| sauron- | i named the script surf | 02:26 |
| sauron- | now here | 02:26 |
| frabbit | erm whats that link? | 02:28 |
| g4570n | sauron- frabbit, maybe you should keep this talk on #debianfork, that channel is for OT | 02:29 |
| sauron- | sorry didnt know | 02:29 |
| frabbit | g4570n: yeah i tol sauron- to msg me | 02:32 |
| frabbit | 02:16 < frabbit> sauron-: ah not here use /msg frabbit foobar ^_^' | 02:32 |
| sauron- | wait frabbit ill add you to the whilelist for pm | 02:33 |
| * palinuro sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xdmezmBVirEQgJjJevakOIAi > | 05:40 | |
| onefang | some_alex: Unregistered nickname might be a problem, you could try registering a nickname, see if that helps. | 05:47 |
| onefang | palinuro: will you be joining us in #devuan-dev to talk about your work? | 05:55 |
| sauron- | fc | 05:59 |
| kaun_ | ascii netinstall, then dist-upgraded to beowulf straightaway. Have minor problem with X, as it only gives me the lightdm graphical console (no text consoles accessible - switching to them makes the display go 'no signal'). Otherwise, very happy to be back on a Debian derivative after a few years on Gentoo. | 11:44 |
| kaun_ | Also, anyone compiled a kernel dpkg on beowulf (linux-4.19) and hit an 'opensslv.h not found' error? | 11:45 |
| emdete | i use a network setup based on ifupdown / iwd / udhcp. iwd comes without init.d script (which i wrote) but i ran into the problem that the network is setup on runlevel S while iwd needs dbus which is setup later. so udhcp fails and the setup isnt done. does someone have a solution? | 15:43 |
| miojo` | hi | 16:01 |
| miojo` | guys, what is the latest version of devuan that i should install? | 16:02 |
| miojo` | bewolf is stable enough for a production desktop? | 16:04 |
| emdete | miojo`: ceres :) i use it since i switched from debian unstable and have no problems | 16:05 |
| miojo` | what about bewolf? | 16:15 |
| some_alex | emdete: I've been using iwd on my parabola + OpenRC install and I had to write init script for it as well. Check if your init system supports specifying required order of initialization (what depends on what). | 16:40 |
| emdete | some_alex: sure it does but as i said network is started in a different runlevel (S) and requires wifi while wifi requires dbus which isnt avail at that point. | 17:12 |
| emdete | the problem is that udhcpc just terminates once the IF is still down. i found no way to give it options via ifupdown to stay & keep trying. my current idea is to use "manual" as ifupdown method and start udhcp from there with the required option... | 17:14 |
| some_alex | emdete: ah, got it. Maybe put network on a different runlevel? Why should it be in S? | 17:41 |
| emdete | some_alex: its devuan default. maybe some special requirement. it even complains on "restart" telling it may fail. | 20:20 |
| fsmithred | emdete, are you talking about this message? "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not re-enable some interfaces" | 20:27 |
| fsmithred | am I here? | 20:28 |
| mason | Sorry for the bouncing around. Mucking with my irssi. Done now. | 23:55 |
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