* tuxd3v thinks that what crashoverride is saying could be dangerous, you can be cauch while mounted in the tree =D | 00:40 | |
tuxd3v | hello somebody here running openbox? anyone? :) | 05:54 |
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tuxd3v | I believe that I have ported successfully the obamenu to lua5.3 :) | 06:18 |
tuxd3v | previously it was failing on me to present a menu with icons | 06:19 |
tuxd3v | later it was failing to start because alteratives were not set to python2 | 06:20 |
tuxd3v | now it will start.. crossing fingers, as I will test it :) | 06:20 |
devuan | hexchat at start asks to join the default chanel( debian ) o.O | 06:30 |
devuan | So majority of category icons are in place | 06:31 |
devuan | but not for Settings :( | 06:31 |
devuan | does any body knows of a category icons that include settings ? | 06:31 |
gnarface | devuan: not sure what you mean by cateogory icons, but i'm sure that default hexchat channel can be changed | 06:34 |
devuan | hexchat in the .desktop file as a name: | 06:34 |
devuan | Name=Open Safe Mode | 06:35 |
devuan | o.O | 06:35 |
devuan | it should be | 06:35 |
devuan | Name=HexChat | 06:35 |
gnarface | the default values in those .desktop files are often stupid, and i change them without remorse | 06:36 |
gnarface | i recommend you do the same | 06:36 |
gnarface | and all of these issues you've listed are Debian's fault | 06:37 |
gnarface | we can't really do anything about them here | 06:37 |
gnarface | if you can clarify the category icons issue i might be able to help you find a missing package though | 06:37 |
gnarface | devuan: ^ | 06:39 |
gnarface | devuan: also, welcome aboard | 06:39 |
devuan | gnarface, thanks :) | 06:40 |
devuan | the issue is related with the Category "Settings" | 06:40 |
devuan | I was trying to find a icon for it | 06:41 |
gnarface | category settings where though, in xfce main menu? | 06:41 |
devuan | but Adwaita theme doesn't have "Settings" category icon :S | 06:41 |
gnarface | ah hmm, annoying | 06:41 |
devuan | I I have a entry in openbox menu that doesn't have a icon, maybe there are some set of icons that does include "Settings" Category :) | 06:42 |
gnarface | anyone else here using the Adwaita theme seeing this issue? ^^^ | 06:42 |
devuan | but I don't know of anny | 06:42 |
gnarface | you might have to add one yourself | 06:42 |
onefang | Is tuxd3v this new devuan person? | 06:43 |
devuan | adwaitta has "System" category icon but not "Settings" | 06:43 |
gnarface | devuan: here, try this: apt-cache search 'icon\-theme' | 06:43 |
gnarface | onefang: i assumed this was a new devuan but i guess i didn't ask | 06:44 |
devuan | yeah, I will create a symlink from some other place to adwaita theme with applications-settings.??? | 06:44 |
devuan | onefang, yes I am, on my desktop sbc version :) | 06:45 |
devuan | I just finished the porting of obamenu to openbox, and it works | 06:45 |
devuan | :) | 06:45 |
devuan | but the theme is a bit ... o.O | 06:45 |
devuan | not so many luck | 06:46 |
devuan | I will do a symlink | 06:46 |
devuan | yeah , my user if the default of the distro "devuan" | 06:46 |
devuan | I am in a arm machine :) | 06:46 |
devuan | well, not I am :) | 06:47 |
devuan | not -> now | 06:47 |
devuan | don't know a good strategy to generateautomatically the applications menus | 06:48 |
devuan | I mean individually for each item | 06:48 |
devuan | I have the Icons name, but they are spreaded across several paths. | 06:48 |
onefang | That'll be one of those horrid FDO specs you need to read. It's complex. I've written code many years ago for it. Trying to forget it. lol | 06:49 |
devuan | onefang, yeah, my menus are floating o.O | 06:56 |
devuan | one time Internet is the first | 06:56 |
devuan | other time Development is the first one, and so on.. | 06:56 |
devuan | I need to fix menus names alphabetically :) | 06:56 |
devuan | but I am taking a lot of time to generate the menu | 06:57 |
devuan | maybe around 0.3 seconds.. | 06:57 |
devuan | I will try to decrease that somehow | 06:57 |
onefang | Try Luajit if you are doing it with Lua. | 06:57 |
devuan | yes I am | 06:58 |
devuan | I finhished the port moments later of obamenu | 06:58 |
devuan | it was fiving me some weird warnings, and I installed python 3.7 | 06:58 |
devuan | sydenly it started to complain with lots of things.. | 06:59 |
devuan | I realized that even they saying in the manpages that it is compatible with python >=3.0 its not true for python 3.7 | 06:59 |
devuan | So I portyed it :) | 06:59 |
devuan | portyed -> ported it | 07:00 |
onefang | I would to. lol | 07:00 |
onefang | Lua is one of my favourite languages. | 07:00 |
devuan | I will speed it up til I can, but I must say, this is chalenging, the about of structures, and the relations between them.. | 07:00 |
devuan | about -> amount | 07:01 |
devuan | first I tried a python Lua conversion, and it started doing something but not quite yet, then I started thinking in Lua , and everything went easier after that :) | 07:01 |
devuan | Lua is a very nice language :) | 07:02 |
devuan | I am running it now in a dual core cortex-A7, so its a very small machine =D | 07:02 |
onefang | LuaJIT is a very fast version of Lua. B-) | 07:02 |
devuan | but it doesn't seems slow, I am the one asking for more B:) | 07:02 |
devuan | I read about LuaJit, maybe it could do miracles here | 07:03 |
devuan | but I don't know if Lua 5.3 is supported already ? | 07:03 |
devuan | I tried not to by too much excentric, so that maybe it will be able to run in..let's say LuaJit, but I don't know for sure :) | 07:04 |
devuan | onefang, how does you run core from Lua in LuaJit, its the same way? | 07:05 |
devuan | or I need to compile it first or so? | 07:05 |
onefang | Same way, you just use the luajit program instead of the lua one. | 07:06 |
devuan | onefang, it finished the generation in around half the time.. I am impressed :) | 07:15 |
devuan | without errors B-) | 07:16 |
devuan | nice | 07:16 |
onefang | B-) | 07:16 |
devuan | another interesting fact .. | 07:18 |
devuan | the menus before were floating | 07:18 |
devuan | they should be ordered(I need to fix that in the code..), and now they are almost ordered totally without floating | 07:19 |
devuan | development i now the first category and is always B-) | 07:19 |
devuan | i -> is | 07:28 |
devuan | need some sleep lol :) | 07:28 |
systemdlete | ok, here's a good one. I am trying to set up a (temporary) dhcp server, just for testing. I can set the ip address manually, and I can ping nearby devices. What I can't do is seem to get a dyamic IP from the udhcpd server! /etc/udhcpd.conf: http://paste.debian.net/1153050/ | 10:38 |
systemdlete | *just for testing a client requiring dhcp | 10:39 |
systemdlete | my client is on 192.168.55.0/24 network | 10:40 |
systemdlete | Is my config ok? (prob not) | 10:40 |
systemdlete | (and, yes, ethr2 really IS the name of the interface to listen on, just fyi) | 10:41 |
systemdlete | I can even see the requrests coming over the wire (tshark) | 10:44 |
systemdlete | I see no response going back though | 10:44 |
systemdlete | I should have mentioned, this is on ascii (not beowulf) | 10:58 |
rrq | lines 86 & 88 ? | 11:01 |
systemdlete | stracing udhcpd, I can see that it just waits on select (after being bound to port 67) | 11:01 |
systemdlete | dns and router are correct -- they are on the 192.168.56.0/24 network, yes | 11:03 |
systemdlete | is that not permitted here? | 11:03 |
systemdlete | the point here, rrq, is that I can see that udhcpd is not answering the queue | 11:04 |
systemdlete | and udhcpd does not seem to support -v | 11:05 |
systemdlete | :( | 11:05 |
* ShorTie cornfused, is it 192.168.55.0/24 network or 192.168.56.0/24 network | 11:07 | |
systemdlete | 55 is the network that the client is on. 56 is another network where my dns and router (gw?) are | 11:08 |
systemdlete | I think that's just info passed to the client; the dhcp server I wouldn't think cares | 11:08 |
systemdlete | (but I might be mistaken; idk) | 11:09 |
ShorTie | don't think you can do that, gotta all be on the same network | 11:10 |
systemdlete | but what if they are not? | 11:10 |
ShorTie | then it don't work | 11:10 |
systemdlete | I'm pretty sure that I've had clients on different networks. | 11:10 |
systemdlete | well, the issue here is not the config so much as the fact that udhcpd is just listening on the socket (port 67). It never breaks from the wait to process a request. But wireshark shows me that it is indeed sending requests over the wire. | 11:11 |
systemdlete | crum... | 11:11 |
systemdlete | I just remembered something. I think I have all packets from the interface forwarded elsewhere.... lol! | 11:11 |
systemdlete | yep | 11:11 |
ErRandir | if you want to separate the .55 and .56 networks you have to use a netmask kof /23 | 11:12 |
systemdlete | Ok, never mind my groaning and kvetching. Forget everything I've said here for the past 20 minutes. | 11:12 |
systemdlete | MY BAD | 11:12 |
* systemdlete waits to be "crowned" | 11:12 | |
* ShorTie gets his 2x4 | 11:13 | |
* systemdlete thanks goodness it is not a 2x6 ! | 11:13 | |
onefang | BTW, you can use a DHCP relay to bridge a DHCP server over different networks. | 11:13 |
systemdlete | those hurt 50% more | 11:13 |
systemdlete | that would be nice, onefang -- I will look at that. | 11:13 |
systemdlete | But I think I have another approach in mind, now that I realize where those dhcp requests are going... | 11:14 |
rrq | systemdlete: the point was that the 55 network client doesn;t know how to reacjt the 56 network router without an additional routing rule .. but that's old stuff now :) | 12:10 |
rrq | reacjt = reach | 12:11 |
systemdlete | I believe the default route is added when the interface is put up | 12:11 |
rrq | that's unusual .. default route to where? | 12:17 |
systemdlete | if you run "route" you should see a route entry for each interface, plus an additional entry for the default gateway | 12:24 |
systemdlete | any packet it cannot route to the interfaces with the masks specified goes to that default gateway | 12:26 |
premoboss | hello dudes. i tried alone and with google but i failed, so i ask here if someone can help me. long story short: i have a matrix of numbers on datasheet (libreoffice calc), each number is in range 0-65535 (16 bit). i want to convert each number into a colored pixel of an image (png, bmp, etc, does not matter). so if i have a matrix of 200x200 numbers, i will get as result a image of 200x200 pixels. i need this kind of conversion | 12:26 |
premoboss | so I can have in a single "blink of eye" the general situation of the data. | 12:26 |
premoboss | someone have a clue how to do? | 12:27 |
systemdlete | rrq: You were right. The router does have to be on the same subnet. I was thinking of dns, which I am pretty sure doesn't have to be, so long as the routing can reach it. | 13:02 |
systemdlete | I'm not an expert on this stuff. I try to configure it once and leave it the heck alone. | 13:03 |
systemdlete | In my case dns server and the default gw router are on different subnets | 13:04 |
systemdlete | it works, so I did that much right. | 13:04 |
rrq | I don't know udhcp in particular, but you might be able to add a host route for 192.168.56.1 | 13:17 |
rrq | via ethr2 | 13:17 |
systemdlete | nah, I got it. | 13:21 |
systemdlete | but thanks | 13:21 |
systemdlete | it's all working. I repointed the default route to 192.168.55.something (i forget now) and it works | 13:22 |
systemdlete | It didn't matter at that point, as you said. I was just trying to get the dhcp server itself to work -- and that was due to some other issues, including a bad usb-ethernet dongle. | 13:23 |
frabbit | gnarface: i have another hdd here where i have the same problem, as with the other one, where i could run dd on for overwriting data only to a specific point. | 16:28 |
frabbit | if u do not remember: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/_devuan.2020-05-29.log.html#t2020-05-29T00:05:06 | 16:28 |
gnarface | same model? | 16:28 |
frabbit | so im running that badblocks line u gave me since >13 hours now and i already got 29 errors | 16:28 |
frabbit | no | 16:28 |
frabbit | a hitachi | 16:28 |
gnarface | something else must be wrong then | 16:29 |
frabbit | wait i paste hdparm -I | 16:29 |
gnarface | what's your dd command again? | 16:29 |
gnarface | specifically, what are you using for if=? | 16:29 |
frabbit | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/DEVICE status=progress | 16:29 |
gnarface | does it work if you use /dev/zero instead? | 16:29 |
gnarface | if=/dev/zero | 16:30 |
frabbit | dunno i didnt tried and i dont want to stop badblocks atm xD | 16:31 |
gnarface | oh | 16:31 |
gnarface | oh 29 errors, sorry i missed you said it already hit errors | 16:31 |
gnarface | well that's a bummer | 16:31 |
frabbit | hdparm -I /dev/sdb -> https://paste.debian.net/plainh/23263aec | 16:32 |
gnarface | the first one, did it turn out to have bad blocks too? | 16:32 |
frabbit | what do u mean? | 16:32 |
frabbit | with turn out | 16:32 |
gnarface | i mean the other hard drive | 16:32 |
gnarface | did it have errors too? | 16:33 |
frabbit | no the other one was without errors | 16:33 |
gnarface | i see | 16:33 |
frabbit | what do the errors mean? | 16:34 |
frabbit | and does badblocks fix them? | 16:34 |
gnarface | you set badblocks to output to a file, right? | 16:37 |
gnarface | -o bad_blocks.txt | 16:38 |
gnarface | something like that? | 16:38 |
gnarface | the errors mean unrecoverable physical damage to those sectors | 16:38 |
gnarface | they're done | 16:38 |
gnarface | the idea is you output the list of bad blocks to a text file, then later feed that to the mount command so the filesystem simply avoids those blocks | 16:38 |
gnarface | if too much of the drive is bad, it might not be worth it, but 29 errors is trivial | 16:39 |
frabbit | yes to file | 16:39 |
frabbit | oh done... =( | 16:39 |
frabbit | not good then | 16:39 |
frabbit | trivial? | 16:40 |
frabbit | u said its a bummer | 16:40 |
gnarface | no | 16:40 |
frabbit | what now =) | 16:40 |
gnarface | it's not many | 16:40 |
frabbit | ok =D | 16:40 |
gnarface | check the fstab man page | 16:40 |
frabbit | fstab? why | 16:40 |
frabbit | ah for mounting otion with that file? | 16:40 |
gnarface | for syntax on how to pass the bad blocks file in | 16:40 |
gnarface | yes | 16:40 |
frabbit | ok | 16:40 |
frabbit | hmm | 16:40 |
frabbit | but i want to use it via usb as backup device... | 16:41 |
gnarface | you might need to look at the mount man page gtoo | 16:41 |
gnarface | too* | 16:41 |
frabbit | but yeah i can wirte it there too | 16:41 |
frabbit | ok | 16:41 |
frabbit | hm nothing about using a file in fstab | 16:43 |
frabbit | im searching in mount now | 16:43 |
gnarface | hmm, badblocks maybe? | 16:43 |
gnarface | oh my bad nevermind | 16:44 |
frabbit | no | 16:44 |
frabbit | sorry forgot to write that | 16:44 |
gnarface | it's not a mount options, it's a format option probably | 16:44 |
frabbit | for mkfs? | 16:44 |
gnarface | maybe so | 16:45 |
gnarface | checking... | 16:45 |
frabbit | ok | 16:45 |
gnarface | yea | 16:45 |
frabbit | -l | 16:45 |
frabbit | and filename | 16:45 |
gnarface | there's a note about block size | 16:45 |
frabbit | cool thats easy =) | 16:46 |
gnarface | make sure not to ignore it | 16:46 |
frabbit | i was scared that i will have to spend hours again on that issue xD | 16:46 |
frabbit | the block size? | 16:46 |
frabbit | ok | 16:46 |
frabbit | huh? i didnt know mke2fs | 16:47 |
frabbit | what is that for when mkfs.ext4 and so on exists? | 16:47 |
doubledutch | Good morning | 16:47 |
frabbit | doubledutch: Good afternoon =) | 16:48 |
doubledutch | I started drinking last night and woke up with Devuan installed on an eLVM on my internal eMMC | 16:48 |
doubledutch | So I guess I'm part of the community now | 16:48 |
frabbit | lol | 16:48 |
doubledutch | Shrug | 16:48 |
frabbit | an example on how easy installing devuan is? | 16:48 |
doubledutch | Actually yes. Doubt you want my life story. | 16:49 |
doubledutch | Devuan is the best | 16:49 |
frabbit | no, no lifestory please... | 16:50 |
radDevuan | Hi. Is there a way to have mtp devices fuse mounted on the filesystem? I know that in Mint for example when you mount them with Caja, they show up under /run/user/1000/gvfs but this doesn't seem to happen with Devuan. | 16:50 |
frabbit | gnarface: mkfs.ext4 -c /dev/sdb i could have run this | 16:52 |
frabbit | but what is ment with blocksize used by mke2fs? | 16:53 |
frabbit | blocksize used by badblocks i would unerstand | 16:53 |
frabbit | thats 512 here | 16:53 |
doubledutch | frabbit: if it's not already marketed as such, I'd compare Devuan with Android_x86, Ubuntu 18.04 and Raspbian | 16:53 |
frabbit | ok as it seems mkfs.ext4 and so on are commands that come with mke2fs | 16:54 |
frabbit | i didnt know that | 16:54 |
doubledutch | ...sounds blasphemous, but of the 15+ distros I was spinning up last night on SD cards, usb cards, and trying to install to internal memory... these were the four that would reliably let me manage mmcblk0 and my two 4M boot sectors | 16:55 |
frabbit | i need mkfs.ext4 to write blocks with the size of 512 | 16:55 |
frabbit | ok... | 16:55 |
frabbit | doubledutch: dont install an os to a portable flash | 16:56 |
doubledutch | So I think Devuan has some cool ability to be installed to SMALL embedded storage with no prior fanagling | 16:56 |
doubledutch | frabbit, my internal HDD is an eMMC device | 16:56 |
frabbit | it will slow down after some weeks and then not starting anymore | 16:56 |
doubledutch | :( | 16:56 |
doubledutch | I've got Alpine and LinuxBBQ on SD cards | 16:57 |
doubledutch | I keep them inserted and they're my main OS on this laptop | 16:57 |
doubledutch | Just wanted to put encrypted devuan at the core | 16:57 |
doubledutch | :.( thought y'all'd love that | 16:57 |
frabbit | doubledutch: since now i used always hdds but when i install beowulf (hopefully in some days) i will use a ssd and a seperate /home partion on a hdd | 16:57 |
doubledutch | Like,.... maybe I could barely update it? | 16:57 |
doubledutch | This way I can eat my SD cards | 16:58 |
doubledutch | and have a blank barely used encrypted OS on the FLASH MEDIA DEVICE THAT IS BOTH MY HDD AAAAAAND IS SOLDERED TO MY RAM AND CPU :D | 16:58 |
frabbit | doubledutch: u would need to seperate nearly everything where write is happening | 16:58 |
doubledutch | Right | 16:58 |
frabbit | var tmp.... | 16:58 |
frabbit | configs in etc? | 16:59 |
frabbit | global configs i mena | 16:59 |
frabbit | *mean | 16:59 |
frabbit | usr | 16:59 |
frabbit | or minimum /usr/local/bin | 16:59 |
doubledutch | Thanks for the advice | 16:59 |
doubledutch | I'll keep a log going | 16:59 |
doubledutch | And monitor write performance and more | 16:59 |
doubledutch | I'm qualified to control the variables | 16:59 |
frabbit | when u write new scripts or change existing scripts often (like i do) | 17:00 |
doubledutch | But I'm not going to use this much | 17:00 |
doubledutch | Maybe mount the /dev/devuan when I need | 17:00 |
doubledutch | and store it... while using OS on the other drive | 17:00 |
doubledutch | But thanks I'm happy to be a part of this shstorm of fun | 17:00 |
doubledutch | and I'll be on forums or something | 17:00 |
frabbit | gnarface: mkfs.ext4 -b 512 -l badblocks_errors_file.txt /dev/sdb | 17:01 |
doubledutch | I also am going to copy my current setup with rsnapshot etc- lots to do, I know what I'm doing | 17:02 |
frabbit | correct? =) | 17:02 |
doubledutch | thanks all thanks frabbit | 17:02 |
frabbit | doubledutch: happy hackin then =) | 17:05 |
doubledutch | thanks! ^_________________^ | 17:06 |
frabbit | gnarface: gone? | 18:21 |
Guest26672 | hi | 19:08 |
Guest26672 | i see 3.0 came out. great! i will isntall asap. | 19:09 |
frabbit | gnarface: badblocks is now at last pattern i think 0x00 and runs very slow (3% in 2 hours...) also the cpu has heated up to >89 degree! normally it runs below 60... | 20:51 |
frabbit | im worried | 20:51 |
frabbit | has nothing to do with dust or something, i cleaned the computer ~a week ago | 20:51 |
frabbit | i cant remmeber that behaviour when i runned badblocks on that previous hdd | 20:52 |
frabbit | i have stopped xserver and the only things running here now are: badblocks on tty1, watch cat /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal on tty2 and screen with irssi on tty3 | 20:54 |
frabbit | gnarface: dunno when u are back, but if i will get a disconnect, please answer as well, i will read the log on website then later | 20:56 |
frabbit | damn the cpu doesnt cool down, its constant on 88 degree.... | 20:57 |
frabbit | i want to stop badblocks, but then over 18 hours were just wasted time... =( | 20:57 |
frabbit | holy shit! | 21:00 |
frabbit | badblocks still shows 29 errors, but the output file has 2843448 lines! | 21:00 |
frabbit | can anyone please give me an advice_ | 21:01 |
frabbit | before the actual pattern started that file contained 29 lines | 21:01 |
frabbit | one line per error | 21:02 |
buZz | frabbit: check the smart logs of your harddrive | 21:03 |
frabbit | buZz: where to find them_ | 21:03 |
frabbit | ? | 21:04 |
buZz | smartctl is a tool to read them | 21:04 |
frabbit | ok and it can run while badblocks is running on that device? | 21:04 |
systemdlete | I would let the tool run to completion. Don't stop it. Let it run at least one full cycle. | 21:04 |
* ShorTie Thinkz, new hard drive maybe ?? | 21:04 | |
frabbit | systemdlete: normally i would but thats an unusually behaviour and im reallz worried about my cou | 21:05 |
frabbit | ShorTie: no its old | 21:05 |
systemdlete | The ~possibly~ good news is that -- from my own experience -- sometimes running badblocks will spare the bad blocks for the drive. Then running the test a second time will show no errors, and you have a good disk again. | 21:06 |
ShorTie | i mean time for maybe | 21:06 |
systemdlete | But from the sounds of it, you might be looking at replacing the drive. | 21:06 |
systemdlete | (no guarantees) | 21:07 |
systemdlete | I've seen some bad drives here, and badblocks (depending on the drive) can restore what seems to be a bad drive back to a working drive. | 21:07 |
systemdlete | what is the rated capacity of the drive? | 21:08 |
systemdlete | frabbit: How big is the drive? | 21:11 |
frabbit | 120GB | 21:12 |
frabbit | hitachi | 21:12 |
systemdlete | hmmm. 18 hours is a VERY long time for a relatively small disk like that. | 21:12 |
ShorTie | oh my | 21:12 |
frabbit | =( | 21:12 |
systemdlete | frabbit: is there any important data on it, and do you have backups? | 21:13 |
frabbit | nah alreadz done | 21:13 |
* systemdlete is not really sure why he asks | 21:13 | |
frabbit | *already | 21:13 |
frabbit | but i wanted to wipe it and while that failed with dd i sarted badblocks | 21:13 |
frabbit | the plan was to use it as a backup device | 21:14 |
ShorTie | paper wieght ?? | 21:14 |
frabbit | or as device for a from thessd seperated &home partition | 21:14 |
frabbit | ShorTie: err.. what_ | 21:14 |
systemdlete | SSD? | 21:14 |
systemdlete | This sounds more like a mechanical drive to me | 21:14 |
frabbit | systemdlete: State Solid Drive | 21:15 |
systemdlete | huh! | 21:15 |
specing | > rabbit | badblocks still shows 29 errors, but the output file has 2843448 lines! | 21:15 |
systemdlete | well, then never mind what I said. | 21:15 |
specing | into the garbage bin | 21:15 |
specing | also offtopic | 21:15 |
frabbit | systemdlete: i dont run badblock on that ssd =) | 21:15 |
frabbit | specing: not oft | 21:16 |
systemdlete | ??? | 21:16 |
frabbit | systemdlete: i run badblocks on a hdd | 21:16 |
frabbit | connected via sata to usb adapter | 21:16 |
systemdlete | so why did you say it's a SSD? | 21:17 |
frabbit | i didnt | 21:17 |
* systemdlete totally confused | 21:17 | |
frabbit | please read before post | 21:17 |
systemdlete | I did... | 21:17 |
frabbit | not well as it seems | 21:17 |
systemdlete | I thought you were saying it was a SSD. | 21:17 |
frabbit | no | 21:17 |
systemdlete | OK, now this makes sense. | 21:17 |
frabbit | 21:14 < frabbit> or as device for a from the ssd seperated /home partition | 21:18 |
systemdlete | I think it is safe to say that you should be planning a funeral for it. | 21:18 |
frabbit | partition /home on hdd, other partitions on ssd | 21:18 |
systemdlete | Is there some reason it is worth saving/restoring to health? If not, I'd get another one. | 21:19 |
frabbit | i cant translate funeral atm | 21:19 |
frabbit | er.. yes.. spare monez for example | 21:20 |
frabbit | *money | 21:20 |
systemdlete | What I meant is what specing said, above | 21:20 |
specing | golinux: frabbit needs rebooting | 21:20 |
frabbit | ok | 21:20 |
systemdlete | into the trash... | 21:20 |
frabbit | specing: reboot? | 21:21 |
frabbit | buZz: in the repos theres only gsmartcontrol | 21:23 |
buZz | apt install smartmontools | 21:24 |
frabbit | is smartctl in some other called package? (i cant search with firefox atm, caused im scared the cpu will getting verz hot agian and computer shuts down) | 21:24 |
frabbit | buZz: thx =) | 21:24 |
frabbit | o_0 | 21:26 |
frabbit | the device isnt visible anzmore... | 21:26 |
frabbit | lsblk gives me only /dev/sda ... | 21:27 |
frabbit | ah! | 21:27 |
frabbit | also the adapter led for access is off, onlz led for power is on | 21:27 |
frabbit | shit! | 21:27 |
frabbit | something died there, or the adapter has a loose contact | 21:28 |
frabbit | but whz the heck badblocks is still running on /dev/sdb? | 21:28 |
frabbit | >=( it probablz IS that adapter. i stopped badblocks, pull out the adapter on both sides and plug it back in and it shows "access" again... | 21:31 |
frabbit | man i didnt touched that thing or anything close to it | 21:31 |
frabbit | i better run badblocks again on second computer inside the sata drive with live system | 21:32 |
frabbit | swifteek once told me that these adapters are cheap shit... | 21:33 |
specing | necromancer | 21:33 |
frabbit | *swiftgeek | 21:33 |
frabbit | specing: who swiftgeek? | 21:34 |
frabbit | surely not | 21:34 |
specing | you | 21:34 |
frabbit | specing: why? | 21:35 |
frabbit | i mean at Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance 2 i was | 21:35 |
specing | because you are trying to make a dead hdd rise from the dead | 21:35 |
frabbit | specing: u dont reading | 21:35 |
frabbit | it isnt dead | 21:36 |
systemdlete | not just any hdd, either | 21:36 |
frabbit | the adapter is shit | 21:36 |
systemdlete | an old, tiny (120GB?) hdd | 21:36 |
frabbit | it cuts the connection | 21:36 |
systemdlete | an old, IDE hdd! | 21:36 |
specing | IDE? don't tell me its 3.5" too | 21:36 |
frabbit | no 2,5" | 21:36 |
frabbit | and doesnt matter if it is old when its still do its job | 21:37 |
frabbit | badblocks gave 29 errors what is normal as gnarface told me | 21:37 |
systemdlete | specing: At least it keeps his house warm in the winter. Not so good in summer tho | 21:37 |
frabbit | after that the adapter fucked up the connection | 21:37 |
frabbit | systemdlete: it is not warm | 21:37 |
frabbit | maybe 25 degree | 21:38 |
systemdlete | I thought you said your CPU was getting hot | 21:38 |
frabbit | yes | 21:38 |
frabbit | because the adpater broke the access connection and badblocks was trying as hard to find /dev/sdb that wasnt connect anymore | 21:38 |
systemdlete | I thought you were saying its IDE, but I guess it is actually sata after all | 21:39 |
frabbit | the first 17 hours of the > 18 hours my cpu was under 60 degree as usual | 21:39 |
specing | 120GB is 3 eur worth of HDD in today's prices | 21:39 |
frabbit | systemdlete: wtf?! specing said that! | 21:39 |
specing | you are wasting everyone's time for 3 eur worth of useless POS hdd via a useless POS adapter | 21:39 |
specing | at least put it inside a computer | 21:40 |
frabbit | systemdlete: can u please stop writing "frabbit said foobar" if ur not sure? | 21:40 |
systemdlete | You confuse me, sorry, frabbit. | 21:40 |
lunario | probably he wasted 3€ of electricity bills running that badblocks thing for 18 hours, given Germany's energy prices. lol | 21:40 |
frabbit | specing: im wasting no ones time | 21:40 |
systemdlete | probably language translation/barrier | 21:40 |
specing | lunario: definetely | 21:40 |
frabbit | systemdlete: no probably not well reading on ur site... | 21:40 |
systemdlete | "not well reading..." | 21:41 |
lunario | "site" | 21:41 |
frabbit | specing: lunario lol the kids coming out? =) | 21:41 |
systemdlete | it's ok... my german is nicht so gut | 21:41 |
frabbit | lunario: yeah side then | 21:41 |
frabbit | lunario: get a life | 21:41 |
lunario | i am not the one making his life ridiculously difficult by causing articial problems like the one you keep bugging us with here | 21:42 |
lunario | so much for "get a life". lol | 21:42 |
yeti | ok... fight that out in some nondevuan channel | 21:43 |
frabbit | lunario: i ran that command with the same adapter on another hdd before in it also tooks over 18 hours. that hdd is fine and its still in use | 21:43 |
frabbit | yeti: nah | 21:44 |
frabbit | not interessted i will just block these... | 21:44 |
frabbit | i mean that specing that first protects child rapers in #debianfork and later protects that antisemitic bsat... i should have block specing days ago | 21:45 |
specing | wtf | 21:45 |
yeti | määän... das hätte schon lange in einen anderen kanal gehört | 21:45 |
yeti | nichts daran ist devianspezifisch | 21:46 |
frabbit | gnarface: i will try running badblocks again on that hdd while it in sata slot and report that result | 21:46 |
lunario | frabbit, wenn deine angebliche blockliste immer länger wird und du mit jedem hier streit hast, vielleicht könnte das problem dann ja auch bei dir liegen und nicht bei specing/bsat/mir/wemauchimmer... | 21:46 |
lunario | (and not back to English and BTT) | 21:46 |
lunario | *now | 21:46 |
frabbit | yeti: ich habe nicht mit diesem bashing shit begonnen | 21:46 |
yeti | schon der ganze HD test war kein debianproblem | 21:47 |
frabbit | die hatten nichts gescheites zu meinem problem beizutragen und kotzen hier nur ihren nervigen muell aus | 21:47 |
yeti | irgendwann reichts | 21:48 |
frabbit | ach echt warum hat gnarface mir dann geholfen? hier | 21:48 |
golinux | Please take this nonsense elsewhere as yeti suggested | 21:48 |
frabbit | golinux: i wont, caused i already block both "users" and i wasnt the one who triggered that drama... | 21:49 |
frabbit | *cause | 21:49 |
yeti | thin skinned | 21:49 |
yeti | THAT'S MY JOB!!!!! | 21:49 |
yeti | :-Þ | 21:50 |
tatsumaru | hey guys, quick question I just installed devuan. I've heard it's not a good idea to install ubuntu packages on debian and vice versa, but what about installing debian packages on devuan? | 22:04 |
buZz | yes not recommended | 22:04 |
buZz | it might look like it works first | 22:04 |
buZz | but before you know it, it will pull in systemd and break your system | 22:04 |
golinux | tatsumaru: devuan already serves all the debian packages that are compatible | 22:05 |
buZz | i assume its from the windows mindset | 22:05 |
golinux | ubuntu might give you a frankendevuan | 22:05 |
buZz | 'i googled up a random .deb and want to install it' | 22:05 |
golinux | https://devuan.org/os/packages | 22:07 |
golinux | tatsumaru: Read carefully | 22:08 |
fsmithred | tatsumaru, was there something specific you want to install? | 22:08 |
golinux | Also https://devuan.org/os/install | 22:08 |
tatsumaru | I just now that some third-party tools like Discord for example have packages for debian on their website but not Devuan so was wondering how to address cases like this, maybe compile from source? | 22:09 |
tatsumaru | know* | 22:09 |
fsmithred | you can usually use the corresponding debian package | 22:09 |
tatsumaru | yeah but buZz said not to do it | 22:10 |
fsmithred | it's safer to download .deb packages than it is to add new sources | 22:10 |
tatsumaru | no, I meant compile from source, however in this case this will not be available since it's not open source | 22:10 |
fsmithred | so you know exactly what you're getting from the third-party | 22:10 |
buZz | well, a .deb from discord.whatever.commercial isnt a 'debian package' | 22:11 |
buZz | its a package -for- debian | 22:11 |
buZz | but not -by- debian | 22:11 |
fsmithred | use the buster version for beowulf | 22:11 |
tatsumaru | ah I get it now | 22:12 |
tatsumaru | so packages for debian are safe, but debian and ubuntu packages are not safe? | 22:12 |
fsmithred | ubuntu packages might not be safe | 22:12 |
buZz | well it depends, its not so easy to say | 22:12 |
fsmithred | debian packages already make up most of your devuan system, just be sure to always take them from devuan | 22:13 |
fsmithred | with apt or your favorite package manager | 22:13 |
tatsumaru | btw I am trying to adduser to sudo and it says adduser command not found | 22:13 |
fsmithred | if you add a foreign source to sources.list, you run the risk of pulling in incompatible libraries | 22:14 |
fsmithred | root's path has changed | 22:14 |
fsmithred | if you use 'su' | 22:14 |
tatsumaru | yeah I use su | 22:14 |
fsmithred | use 'su -' | 22:14 |
fsmithred | and you'll get root's full path | 22:14 |
yeti | I really dont see why users should not see stuff in sbin | 22:15 |
fsmithred | other way is to use 'su' and then call the command with its full path, which I think is a pain in the ass. | 22:15 |
yeti | plain silly | 22:15 |
fsmithred | user's generally don't run stuff from sbin, and looking there every time you run a command will slow you down | 22:16 |
fsmithred | (so you can hurry up and get to the next red light in your web browser) | 22:16 |
yeti | have bin 1st | 22:16 |
lunario | how can i keep devuan away from creating the Desktop directory? i don't use any DE (dwm instead) and have no entries in xdg's user-dirs.default | 22:17 |
fsmithred | update-user-dirs or something like that | 22:18 |
fsmithred | xdg-user-dirs-update | 22:18 |
lunario | i already ran that | 22:18 |
fsmithred | assuming you commented out Desktop in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults | 22:19 |
lunario | yes | 22:19 |
fsmithred | rm -r ~/Desktop | 22:19 |
lunario | maybe some program i am running is created it automatically? | 22:19 |
fsmithred | maybe | 22:19 |
fsmithred | ff will make Downloads, so it's possible that something else is doing similar | 22:19 |
lunario | yes, i run rm -r on Desktop every day basically, but it still pops up after a while. i should try to systematically find out *when* it does. | 22:19 |
lunario | yeah no i've already set palemoon's download dir to ~/ | 22:20 |
fsmithred | make sure enabled=True in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf | 22:20 |
lunario | there is nothing like strace on a folder right? lol | 22:20 |
lunario | yes i have enabled=True there | 22:20 |
fsmithred | or set it to False and delete whatever you don't want, and maybe it won't come back | 22:20 |
lunario | hm, i could try that. ok. | 22:21 |
lunario | thanks so far, if the problem persists i'll report back | 22:21 |
fsmithred | one more possible 'fix' | 22:22 |
fsmithred | set DESKTOP= to someplace where you won't see it | 22:22 |
lunario | could i just do export DESKTOP="$HOME"? | 22:23 |
tatsumaru | hmm I keep getting 'username is not in sudoers file, incident will be reported' when I try to use sudo. I went into su - and did adduser username sudo, but it still doesn't work | 22:28 |
buZz | log out and log back in | 22:28 |
buZz | or just reboot your machine | 22:28 |
tatsumaru | tried, didn't help | 22:28 |
buZz | did you log out of the X sessions aswell ? | 22:28 |
tatsumaru | i just closed terminal and did a reboot | 22:29 |
buZz | try 'id' as user | 22:29 |
buZz | uid=1000(buzz) gid=1000(buzz) groups=1000(buzz),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),102(input),103(netdev),110(bluetooth),111(lpadmin),114(scanner) | 22:29 |
buZz | should be something like that | 22:29 |
tatsumaru | yeah | 22:30 |
tatsumaru | sudo is there | 22:30 |
tatsumaru | any other ideas? | 22:37 |
yeti | is the "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" line uncommented by default? | 22:44 |
tatsumaru | i fixed it I am an idiot - I deleted the % by mistake | 22:45 |
yeti | aaaah | 22:46 |
yeti | hit shappens! | 22:46 |
fsmithred | yay for the freedom to break. | 22:50 |
tatsumaru | how can I install the 32bit version of libGL.so.1 and libdrm.so.2? | 23:09 |
Latrina | Good evenign | 23:26 |
tuxd3v | tatsumaru, type 'id' with your user.. | 23:36 |
tatsumaru | tuxd3v if this is regarding sudo I solved it | 23:37 |
tuxd3v | 'usermod -a -G sudo your_user' as root will put you in the sudo group, then logout and login again | 23:37 |
tuxd3v | nice | 23:37 |
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