| msiism | When linux-headers-4.19.0-9-686-pae was installed on my system during my upgrade from ASCII to beowulf, I got the following error: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/b0aeb6af | 01:15 |
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| msiism | This is related to my USB wifi adapter. | 01:15 |
| msiism | The log file mentioned in the error message contains this: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/4eb5cff3/ | 01:15 |
| msiism | To me, that looks like a bunch of C programming errors. | 01:16 |
| msiism | But then, the only seem to occur because the compiler operates in some sort of strict mode, apparently. | 01:17 |
| msiism | Well, yeah, it says: "cc1: some warnings being treated as errors" | 01:19 |
| msiism | It's probably better, though, to have the code fixed in order not to get those warnings in the first place. | 01:48 |
| plasma41 | HackphiL: Did you get Devuan installed? Do you have any questions? | 01:53 |
| plasma41 | xrogaan: Were you trying to get a steam controller working? | 01:54 |
| * msiism sees a newer version of firmware-realtek in beowulf-backports… | 01:54 | |
| * msiism finds out that installing that doesn't help at all… | 02:00 | |
| xrogaan | no | 02:18 |
| xrogaan | msiism: and you have a /var/lib/dkms/8192cu/1.10/build/make.log ? | 02:19 |
| msiism | xrogaan: Sure. It's under the second link I posted above. | 02:20 |
| xrogaan | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=885034 ? | 02:21 |
| xrogaan | not part of debian? | 02:22 |
| xrogaan | doesn't seem well maintained | 02:24 |
| msiism | xrogaan: Hm…, the 4.19 kernel probably doesn't need the out-of-tree driver anymore. The 4.9 kernel, however, does, as far as I know. | 02:26 |
| msiism | That said, wifi doesn't work for me anymore with the 4.19 kernel. | 02:27 |
| xrogaan | wifi is overrated :P | 02:27 |
| msiism | It works flawlessly in NetBSD. :P | 02:28 |
| xrogaan | I don't know, ask the driver maintainers. | 02:28 |
| msiism | I'll try one other thing first… | 02:32 |
| * msiism reboots | 02:32 | |
| HackphiL | hi there | 07:14 |
| HackphiL | devuan beowulf is installed and I need to use the wifi | 07:15 |
| HackphiL | hi plasma41 thx for contact | 07:15 |
| plasma41 | HackphiL: Is your wifi hardware built-in or an external usb dongle? | 07:19 |
| HackphiL | it's a wifi card inside | 07:21 |
| HackphiL | what's the time by you plasma41 ? | 07:21 |
| plasma41 | HackphiL: My timezone is CST, UTC-5. I'm up late. It's just past midnight for me. | 07:23 |
| plasma41 | HackphiL: You're in France, correct? | 07:23 |
| plasma41 | Do you know what chipset? The output of `lspci` should identify the wifi device. | 07:24 |
| HackphiL | I look... | 07:25 |
| HackphiL | yes plasma41 Marseille, France | 07:27 |
| HackphiL | lspci -nn | grep -i network ---> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192EE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:818b] | 07:28 |
| plasma41 | Looking that up... | 07:29 |
| gnarface | plasma41: as i recall it turned out to be a "ac" device that needed a newer driver and/or firmware than beowulf stock, but he said it worked on ubuntu so my current hypothesis is the beowulf-backports kernel should also have support | 07:32 |
| gnarface | plasma41: if not, whatever ubuntu patched their kernel with should still be on github or something, but i'm placing my bets on the backports kernel for this one | 07:33 |
| plasma41 | The kernel package does not contain any non-libre firmware packages in it, in Devuan or in Ubuntu. If the wifi is working under Ubuntu, it means that a proprietary firmware package is installed. | 07:35 |
| HackphiL | ok so, what can I do, I need wifi on that pc | 07:49 |
| plasma41 | The package that has the firmware is "firmware-realtek". I do not recommend installing it because it is proprietary software. | 07:54 |
| plasma41 | I personally recommend replacing the internal wifi card with one that works without proprietary software. Alternately, I recommend using instead a usb wifi dongle that does not require proprietary software. | 07:57 |
| HackphiL | you're right, I like that free spirit ;) but could advice me a wifi internal card ad-hoc ? | 08:02 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: i thought you said you already had that firmware package for the stock beowulf kernel though? if not, definitely try it. if you do, there's a newer one in backports, too. | 08:12 |
| HackphiL | gnarface ~~> sorry... mum at phone | 10:17 |
| HackphiL | the realtek firmware and modules are installed but I have non wifi | 10:18 |
| HackphiL | gnarface ~~> still there? | 10:18 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: so use the backports one | 10:26 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: the kernel version and that firmware version are a pair, so if you get the kernel from beowulf-backports you should also get the firmware from there | 10:29 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: they could work individually but there's no way for me to know | 10:29 |
| HackphiL | gnarface ~~> I'm newbie and don't know how to use the backports | 10:44 |
| HackphiL | have to modify the sources.list for that? | 10:45 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: yes, it works just like debian backports, but the line is this instead: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main | 10:47 |
| HackphiL | non need rto add "contrib" and "non-free" as for the other lines? | 10:55 |
| HackphiL | s/rto/to | 10:55 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: you should really research how this all works on your own but no, actually it was my mistake. yes, add contrib and non-free to that line too: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free | 10:57 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: only enable it to pull in the right linux-image-* package and firmware-realtek package, then comment it out | 10:58 |
| search_social | installing kernel 5 fixed my wifi | 12:39 |
| HackphiL | search_social ~~> I never did that! How can I do? | 14:02 |
| fsmithred | HackphiL, did you enable backports in sources.list? | 14:04 |
| HackphiL | hello fsmithred yes I did | 14:05 |
| fsmithred | and did you install a kernel from backports? | 14:06 |
| HackphiL | I onny installed devuan-beowulf with the iso | 14:07 |
| fsmithred | ok | 14:07 |
| fsmithred | Do you need a newer kernel? | 14:08 |
| HackphiL | I need wifi on that pc and -search-social said : "12:40:35 search_social | installing kernel 5 fixed my wifi " | 14:08 |
| HackphiL | my card is "proprio" | 14:09 |
| djph | "proprio" ? ehwot | 14:10 |
| HackphiL | the chipset of my wifi card is not free | 14:10 |
| fsmithred | lol | 14:10 |
| djph | HackphiL: who makes the chipset? realtek / ralink / one of those jokers? | 14:10 |
| HackphiL | realtek | 14:10 |
| fsmithred | apt -t beowulf-backports install linux-image-5.6.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 firmware-realtek | 14:11 |
| djph | ^ | 14:11 |
| HackphiL | and a modprobe after? | 14:11 |
| fsmithred | I assume you have amd64 | 14:11 |
| HackphiL | ypu can | 14:11 |
| HackphiL | ;) | 14:12 |
| fsmithred | yeah, probably modprobe -r to remove the older one and then modprobe again | 14:12 |
| fsmithred | oh | 14:12 |
| fsmithred | no | 14:12 |
| fsmithred | you must reboot | 14:12 |
| fsmithred | so you run the new kernel | 14:12 |
| HackphiL | ok... | 14:12 |
| fsmithred | and you should probably disable backports in sources.list. Just comment out the line. | 14:13 |
| HackphiL | I know that | 14:13 |
| fsmithred | Good. | 14:13 |
| HackphiL | kernel charging... | 14:16 |
| HackphiL | oups! | 14:16 |
| HackphiL | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw for module r8169 | 14:17 |
| HackphiL | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168fp-3.fw for module r8169 | 14:17 |
| gnarface | it's just a warning, it may be nothing. i think i was getting that error too | 14:19 |
| HackphiL | lsmod ---> r8169 90112 0 | 14:19 |
| gnarface | r8169 90112 0 | 14:19 |
| gnarface | i'm on ceres, i was getting that error until the last update | 14:19 |
| gnarface | it was still working for me | 14:20 |
| gnarface | not even a wireless card though | 14:20 |
| gnarface | it's a gigabit ethernet port | 14:20 |
| HackphiL | lspci -k | grep -i network -A 2 ---> | 14:21 |
| HackphiL | Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ee | 14:21 |
| HackphiL | Kernel modules: rtl8192ee | 14:21 |
| gnarface | does it work though? | 14:22 |
| HackphiL | what ceres is? | 14:22 |
| gnarface | unstable | 14:22 |
| gnarface | so does it work or not? | 14:24 |
| HackphiL | wonderfull! | 14:25 |
| HackphiL | my wifi card is detected | 14:25 |
| HackphiL | wicd gave an ip | 14:26 |
| * gnarface claps excitedly | 14:26 | |
| HackphiL | all seems right | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | :) | 14:26 |
| gnarface | cool | 14:26 |
| HackphiL | youbare my heroes | 14:26 |
| gnarface | damn right we are | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | and that's how you do backports | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | you might re-enable backports and check occasionally for updates | 14:27 |
| fsmithred | more for the kernel - the firmware is unlikely to be upgraded | 14:27 |
| HackphiL | I don't reboot after charging the kernel | 14:27 |
| fsmithred | uname -r | 14:28 |
| fsmithred | I thought you did reboot | 14:28 |
| HackphiL | 4.19.0-9-amd64 | 14:28 |
| gnarface | loading the new module on the old kernel is possible | 14:28 |
| fsmithred | and apparently works | 14:28 |
| gnarface | but you should reboot to test the new kernel to make sure everying else still works | 14:28 |
| gnarface | maybe that firmware error will go away then, no idea | 14:29 |
| HackphiL | please, don't forget to speak a basic and simple english with me | 14:29 |
| gnarface | we thought you got the firmware error from booting, but you just got it from modprobe, right? | 14:30 |
| HackphiL | not from booting, just during the installing (installation?) | 14:30 |
| gnarface | apt -t beowulf-backports install linux-image-5.6.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 firmware-realtek | 14:31 |
| gnarface | you ran this though? | 14:31 |
| HackphiL | not by modprobe, at the end of installing the kernel | 14:31 |
| gnarface | did you run this exact command? apt -t beowulf-backports install linux-image-5.6.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 firmware-realtek | 14:31 |
| HackphiL | yes gnarface | 14:32 |
| gnarface | well, good | 14:32 |
| gnarface | reboot | 14:33 |
| fsmithred | time to reboot | 14:33 |
| HackphiL | ok | 14:33 |
| fsmithred | we will wait for you | 14:33 |
| HackphiL | what will you wait for me ? | 14:34 |
| HackphiL | rebootting | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | we will wait right here | 14:34 |
| HackphiL | ok thx a lot ;) | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I keep thinking you will leave this room to reboot | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | but I guess that's not true | 14:34 |
| HackphiL | let's pray brothers and sisters... | 14:34 |
| HackphiL | all seems right again | 14:35 |
| fsmithred | I find cursing works better than praying for computers | 14:35 |
| HackphiL | login... | 14:35 |
| HackphiL | password... | 14:35 |
| HackphiL | you definitly are my heroes ;) | 14:36 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: enjoy your devuan. don't forget to disable backports before you upgrade anything else | 14:37 |
| Unit193 | Backports is pinned at 100, itt's not really a problem. :3 | 14:37 |
| HackphiL | I don't understand yet what the differences with a classical Debian are but I didn't install systemd, isn't it? | 14:37 |
| gnarface | HackphiL: nope, you're safe | 14:38 |
| HackphiL | thanks Lord it's saturday ! | 14:38 |
| HackphiL | ;) | 14:39 |
| HackphiL | oups! | 14:39 |
| HackphiL | I forgot to get off the rj45 | 14:41 |
| HackphiL | without rj45 boot ok and wifi too ;) | 14:50 |
| fsmithred | backport is USUALLY not really a problem. I've seen it screw up. | 14:56 |
| HackphiL | screw up ? | 14:56 |
| fsmithred | do the wrong thing | 14:58 |
| HackphiL | thx | 14:58 |
| fsmithred | you are welcome | 14:58 |
| HackphiL | I'd like to delete all the games installed | 14:59 |
| fsmithred | what games? | 14:59 |
| HackphiL | on my devuan-beowulf | 14:59 |
| fsmithred | what iso did you use? | 15:00 |
| HackphiL | devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-desktop.iso | 15:01 |
| fsmithred | I did not think games were installed by default. | 15:03 |
| * HackphiL is often the default ;) | 15:03 | |
| fsmithred | did you install games? | 15:03 |
| HackphiL | probably by mystake | 15:04 |
| HackphiL | I think I understood my mystake... | 15:05 |
| HackphiL | I also installed xfce | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | Look at the games menu | 15:05 |
| HackphiL | I see : | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | Does it start with Aisleriot, Chess, Five or More? | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | Bastard Tetris | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | Dungeon Crawl | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | Freesweep | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | Greed | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | Matanza | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | Moria | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | ok, stop | 15:06 |
| HackphiL | NetHack (No GUI) | 15:07 |
| HackphiL | ok | 15:07 |
| HackphiL | ;) | 15:07 |
| HackphiL | is tasksel my friend in that situation? | 15:08 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -l | grep games-console | 15:08 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -l | grep task-console-productivity | 15:09 |
| fsmithred | see if either of those packages is installed | 15:09 |
| HackphiL | I think they are 'cause the games run. | 15:10 |
| fsmithred | you could remove games-console | 15:10 |
| fsmithred | apt remove games-console | 15:10 |
| HackphiL | dpkg -l | grep games-console ---> nothing | 15:11 |
| fsmithred | ok, then remove the games individually | 15:11 |
| HackphiL | with cli ? | 15:12 |
| fsmithred | however you like | 15:12 |
| fsmithred | I'm checking some names - I think Bastard Tetris is bastet | 15:13 |
| HackphiL | dpkg -l | grep task-console-productivity ---> introuvable command | 15:13 |
| fsmithred | apt remove bastet crawl freesweep greed nethack... | 15:14 |
| fsmithred | or find them in synaptic and remove | 15:15 |
| gnarface | grep 'task-console-productivity' | 15:17 |
| onefang | Games are in task-console-productivity? No wonder I never get anything done. | 15:22 |
| HackphiL | nothing happened with : grep 'task-console-productivity' | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | It's ok. You probably don't have it. | 15:26 |
| fsmithred | did you check all the boxes in the tasksel window during the install? | 15:27 |
| HackphiL | no at all ! | 15:28 |
| fsmithred | good | 15:28 |
| HackphiL | ;) | 15:28 |
| HackphiL | only Devuan | 15:28 |
| * fsmithred likes taking defaults, too | 15:28 | |
| HackphiL | xfce (Default) | 15:28 |
| HackphiL | ssh server | 15:28 |
| fsmithred | did you find all your games and remove them? | 15:29 |
| HackphiL | print server | 15:29 |
| HackphiL | I'm looking about with synaptic | 15:29 |
| HackphiL | I found bastet in synaptic | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | on the left, find Games in the list | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | highlight it | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | Games and Amusement | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | then in the package list, click on Installed Version | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | and then a second time | 15:30 |
| fsmithred | all the installed games will be at the top of the list | 15:31 |
| HackphiL | I founded them | 15:33 |
| HackphiL | fsmithred ~~> Am I right if I say that with the 4.19 I have installed an older kernel that the one I see in grub? | 15:43 |
| fsmithred | not sure what you are saying | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | I believe you have two kernels installed | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | 4.19 and 5.something | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | 5.6? | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | anyway... | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | it's ok to have more than one kernel installed | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | you can only run one at a time | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | and grub puts the newest kernel first in the boot list | 15:45 |
| HackphiL | yes, 4.19 and 5.6 | 15:52 |
| HackphiL | my boot list is : | 15:53 |
| HackphiL | 5.6 | 15:53 |
| HackphiL | 5.6 (recovery mode) | 15:53 |
| HackphiL | 4.19 | 15:53 |
| HackphiL | 4.19 (recovery mode) | 15:53 |
| HackphiL | you're right again | 15:55 |
| brocashelm | if you have a /home partition already and want to install devuan on another drive, is it safe to tick the "create the /home partition" option? i didn't tick it because i was worried it might overwrite my partition | 15:55 |
| HackphiL | uname -r ----> 5.6.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 | 15:55 |
| HackphiL | does a french page exist for devuan ? | 15:57 |
| gnarface | brocashelm: the interface should show you all the drives and you should be able to explicitly set what each partition is used as, as well as whether to pre-format it or not. you should be able to easily make it ignore an existing partition if you are paying attention | 16:02 |
| gnarface | brocashelm: you might need to be in expert mode for it to ask extra questions i guess though, i am not sure | 16:03 |
| gnarface | brocashelm: and you have to choose manual partitioning, instead of guided | 16:03 |
| brocashelm | gnarface: i remember this being more specific the first time i tried devuan (2018), but the rest of them were a bit "cryptic" for me | 16:04 |
| brocashelm | gnarface: it doesn't bother me too much, since i could always just edit /etc/fstab and replace that partition's /home directory with my actual /home partition | 16:05 |
| fsmithred | brocashelm, you're using the live installer? | 16:11 |
| fsmithred | if you have an existing home, just install to one partition and change fstab later | 16:11 |
| HackphiL | what have I to install to use "nc" as "| nc termbin.com 9999" ? | 16:15 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: i was using the live installer. i just wasn't sure at the time | 16:15 |
| fsmithred | you guessed correctly | 16:15 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: i installed once and cloned my installs to my other machines. i devuanized all my mintbuntu machines and they run like new | 16:16 |
| fsmithred | HackphiL, install netcat-traditional | 16:18 |
| HackphiL | done | 16:26 |
| HackphiL | ;) | 16:26 |
| scaniatrucker | Hackphil: check this https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=685 | 16:27 |
| HackphiL | https://termbin.com/5mm2 | 16:29 |
| fsmithred | it works | 16:38 |
| Jonte_P | exit | 17:09 |
| mtnman | helo i am running a recent jesse install and when i invoke firefox it crashes every time. i have looked at .mozilla/firefox/Crash\ Reports/ and remain unenlightened. where can i find more info to determine why firefox crashes every time i launch it. | 22:50 |
| mtnman | ? | 22:50 |
| fsmithred | mtnman, start it from a terminal and you might see some error messages | 22:50 |
| mtnman | fsmithered helo long time no see. | 22:51 |
| mtnman | ok i am getting "ExceptionHandler" messages | 22:52 |
| mtnman | ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump clonded child 6367 | 22:53 |
| mtnman | ExceptionHandler::SendContinuesSignalToChild sent continue signal to child | 22:54 |
| mtnman | ExceptionHandler::WaitForContiueSignal waiting for continue signal... | 22:54 |
| mtnman | then a mozilla crash reporter windwo pops up. | 22:54 |
| mtnman | btw lynx is running ok on that system | 22:57 |
| mtnman | after i close the crashreporter i get "Failed to open curl lib from binary, use libcurl.so instead. | 23:02 |
| mtnman | but libcurl3 is installed and seems ok. | 23:03 |
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