libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2020-09-02

DPAgnarface, ham5urg: My understanding is that lxc with libvirt and lxc are completely independent toolsets for managing linux containers (lxc), which don't depend on each other at all.08:42
DPAThey just happen to use the same linux interfaces, such as namespaces and cgroups, to create and manage containers, a technology which is known as linux containers.08:42
DPAIt's just that because the lxc toolset is called the same as the lxc technology, people get confused into thinking those are the same thing. There isn't really a good/cononical way to refer to just one of those things either.08:42
DPAI use libvirt-lxc, btw. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1591 (I should probably remove the `echo 'pts/0' >> /etc/securetty` thing from there, as I think libvirt now mounts it to simulate a proper tty.)09:04
ham5urgIs there a DNS-unbound-config to allow the server to answer for "myserver" instead for "myserver.example.net"? Or do I need two local-data entries per domain?15:19
DPAham5urg: Usually, this kind of thing is solved by setting the domain to example.net, or including example.net in the search domain. Both of these can be set using dhcp.15:25
DPAThe client should then try to resolve myserver.example.com if myserver wasn't found. Non-FQDN Names like myserver shuldn't be resolved using dns anyway, but can be useful15:25
DPAfor other host name resolution techniques which can be specified in nsswitch.conf.15:25
ham5urgDPA, thanks15:26
xinomiloiirc, /etc/hosts can also do that for local workstation/server..15:41
ham5urgHas anyone rsync'ed deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main to a local http-server?15:44
DPAham5urg: I haven't tried this yet, but I think this walkthrough for setting up a devuan mirror may help: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt15:57
ham5urgDPA, pretty nice HOWTO.15:59
radDevuanHi. Any idea why I get broken packages when I try to install task-kde-desktop?18:38
radDevuanwow "aptitude install" is actually offering a way to install it.18:42
golinuxcan we see your sources.list?18:42
radDevuanhttps://termbin.com/fdtp18:49
radDevuanLooks like the solution, according to aptitude, was to remove a ton of 32bit packages that I had installed for wine32.18:50
radDevuanIt will probably break my wine installation but it's ok for now.18:50
systemdleteI installed beowulf on my tablet last night.  I cannot find a control to enable double-tapping on the touchpad.  I installed the libinput package for xorg.18:50
systemdlete(libinput replaces the synaptic package in beowulf)18:51
fsmithredxserver-xorg-input-synaptics still exists in beowulf. Would that help?18:52
masonsystemdlete: If you used to use synclient, I think you can do all that stuff in sysctls now.18:53
systemdleteI don't know.  I read somewhere that xserver-xorg-input-libinput replaces that package.  I did apt update and apt searc but did not find the package18:53
systemdlete*search18:55
masonsystemdlete: What's double-tap supposed to do? I don't have anything special installed on my T420 and I get two-finger scrolling out of the box.18:55
systemdleteso you don't have to explicitly left click the touchpad; you can sort of "double tap" on the touchpad and it will left click.18:55
systemdlete(when I say touchpad here, I just mean tapping on the tablet surface)18:59
systemdlete(or on the touchpad when in laptop mode)18:59
systemdletefsmithred:  You say it is still in the repo?  Do I need a special config for that?19:02
jkister0what's this about apt-get update on beowulf ?  https://pastebin.com/raw/HpwQXbF619:08
masonsystemdlete: https://bpa.st/YZPQ19:08
jkister0i see https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20200601.120203.f637cb77.fr.html#devuan-dev but it doesnt explain19:15
systemdletethanks mason, fsmithred et al19:17
jkister0--allow-releaseinfo-change fixes.19:21
systemdleteI installed the synaptic package; thanks again.  But this doesn't seem to affect xfce.  I am instlling mate, where I know it works in ascii, so it should work for beowulf also I think.19:27
systemdleteI also note that if I try to change the properties (settings) for the xfce clock, it crashes.  (laptop, seems ok on my testbox)19:29
masonjkister0: What more explanation would be useful?19:30
masonjkister0: When you build a repository, you specify a bunch of stuff, including APT::FTPArchive::Release::Suite. This was set to "testing" before Beowulf's release, and changed to "stable" once Beowulf was released.19:31
jkister0@mason it just didnt explain what was going on.  or why.  felt like MITM attack or something, ive never seen that before19:36
jkister0i understand your explanation, make sense.19:36
masonjkister0: Yeah, it's a funny message, and most people running, for instance, Debian, will not follow testing into stable, they'll move from one stable repo to another, or stay on testing. Lots of folks were on Beowulf and followed it into stable, hence the otherwise somewhat rare message.19:37
systemdletemaybe an update will help.  I see there are many packages waiting to be updated.  Maybe some fix the xfce clock problem.19:37
masonjkister0: It's a really good idea to question any such message you see from the sources of your software, FWIW.19:37

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