libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2020-09-20

Cobratekold rusty *nix skillz00:00
CobratekI'm old school been around the block once or twice:  I've got a working install with broken X because AMD00:01
CobratekSo I need to install the nonfree AMD packages yes?00:01
CobratekI can mount -o  the 4g ISO just fine, I need to know where to find the files to install.00:04
CobratekApparently the debian installer forgets it was installed from a USB stick and wants a non-existent CD when I try to install anything manually00:05
CobratekI mostly have to work offline hence the 4G installer ....00:05
fsmithredCobratek, does it fail to find the files if you insert the usb stick when it asks for the CD?00:13
Cobratekyep - just keeps asking for the C00:13
CobratekD00:13
fsmithredI suppose you could symlink your mounted iso to /dev/cdrom or wherever it's looking00:14
fsmithredor symlink to where the usb is mounted. I've done that during installation with a buggy installer.00:14
CobratekBeen there tried that - the mounted ISO looks like a different label than what it's looking for00:14
fsmithredpackages are in /pool00:15
CobratekI'm well familiar with apt so I think I can install them once I locate them00:16
fsmithredmaybe apt-cdrom add <mounted iso>00:16
bernteHi - I have problems contacting auto.mirror.devuan.org to update my system - is that expected?00:16
fsmithredbernte, yes. Use deb.devuan.org instead00:17
berntefsmithred: ok - will try that ... thanks.00:17
bernteIs that temporary, or a permanent change?00:17
Cobratekfsmithred, good one, wish I thought of it.00:17
fsmithredpermanent change.00:18
Cobratekanyway- bbl playing the dual boot game - so much better than swap the floppy, that game sucked.00:18
fsmithredwe only kept auto.mirror around while jessie was still supported, because that's what the installer isos used.00:19
fsmithredlol00:19
mtnmanfsmithered hello, i have been attempting to use the concatenable bowulf arm images, but have been uable to achieve boot.00:20
* mtnman is stuck on ascii00:21
mtnmansuppose i could dist-upgrade, but would like to start with a fresh beowulf image.00:21
golinuxTry #devuan-arm00:23
golinuxThere is also the forum https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=2400:24
mtnmangolinux yes that is wehre i discovered that fsmithered is an arm authority.  i tried all the stuff in that thread and have not been able to produce a bootable image for my board.00:25
mtnmanfigured since i saw him on this channel i'd just ask him.00:25
fsmithred lol00:27
fsmithredI'm an authority on posting stuff that someone gives me and even moving around images on the server.00:27
fsmithredI know nothing about arm00:27
mtnmanoh ok i saw you were asking people to test thae arm images.00:28
fsmithredyeah, because the person who made the images didn't have an account on the forum at that time00:28
mtnmanoic00:28
fsmithredyou looked at the installer images?00:29
Cobratek:) I can install shtuff at will thanks, just have to chase down the rest of the packages I need, AMD stuff went in perfectly thanks :)00:29
fsmithredcool00:29
Cobratekfor reference: apt-cdrom add /pathtoiso was key00:31
Cobratektoo easy00:31
Cobratekbut appreciated nonetheless00:32
fsmithredway cool. I did something like that with suse 10.000:32
mtnmani've tried several images but the concatenation thing doesn't seem to work for me.00:32
fsmithredI don't know what that is.00:32
Cobratekcat ?00:33
mtnmanthe arm images have a base file and a device-specific part that must be concatenated to get a bootable image.00:33
mtnmanfor beowulf, that is.00:34
fsmithredDo you know the link for the community-made images?00:34
mtnmanno00:34
fsmithredI'll find it00:34
ShorTiewhat board are you using mtnman if i can ask ??00:35
mtnmanBBB00:35
mtnmanShorTie: beaglebone black00:40
fsmithredmtnman, arm-file.devuan.org00:41
fsmithredoh00:41
fsmithredno BBB there00:41
mtnmanhmmm.00:42
mtnmanfsmithered: thanks anyhow.00:44
* mtnman goes afk for a phone call00:48
ShorTiearm-file.devuan.org don't work01:22
ShorTieThis site can�t be reached01:22
gnarfaceShorTie: arm-files*01:42
fsmithredyeah, there's more than one file01:47
n4dirWhen starting streamtuner2 i get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8FxcYRmC8x/16:14
fsmithredn4dir, I played with it yesterday.16:48
fsmithreddid you try 'streamtuner2 --gtk3' ??16:49
n4dirnot yet.16:49
fsmithredthat worked for me, and I could get some channels to play16:49
n4dirsame error. grml16:49
fsmithredI tried some other way to start it, and it didn't work16:49
fsmithredalso, it's in the menu16:50
n4dirthe menu? which menu?16:50
n4diri switched to tunapie, which probably does the job just as fine. Just wondering16:50
fsmithredI'm in xfce. It's in Multimedia16:51
n4dirthe job being: give me some background music not to be found in my collection16:51
n4dirlet me start the xfce4-panel16:51
fsmithredyou get the same thing if you start from a terminal16:51
fsmithredI tried an example from the man page, and it did not work. I got errors that looked similar to yours.16:52
n4dirdoesn't start from the menu. I usually start apps from command prompt, but as it failed i checked from a terminal16:53
n4dirwill look at manpage examples16:53
fsmithredstreamtuner2 --gtk316:53
fsmithredthat worked for me16:53
n4diryes, didn't work either.16:53
n4dirthough if i recall correct it always gave problems.16:54
n4dirperhaps tunapie is the better option16:54
fsmithredit also starts gui without the --gtk3 option16:55
fsmithredyou might be missing some gtk packages. My errors are different when I get them.16:55
n4diryeah, but you would assume the dependencies to handle that. I think16:56
fsmithredit should16:57
n4diras said, i recall it to always be troublesome16:57
fsmithredtunapie works. I can find more jazz with this.16:59
n4dirmore jazz with tunapie or with streamt2?17:00
fsmithredtuna17:00
n4diryeah, let me apt-get remove streamtuner. Enough of this17:00
n4diri thought it was gone, as i did apt-cache search tuneapie all the time. Ha ha17:00
n4dironce at it: you know similar apps? more i mean17:01
fsmithredstreamtuner also did a weird thing where clicking on some channels opened midori, my secondary web browser17:01
fsmithredif you have a url, you can stream with audacious or vlc17:01
n4dirah yes.17:02
fsmithredI mostly go to youtube to find music these days17:02
n4dirdid that the last years too, but my hardware hardly handles web-browsers anymore17:02
fsmithredyeah, that's getting pretty bad17:02
n4diranother question, perhaps you know a quick answer: If an audio app is runnning, be it mocp or tunapie/audacious, and i open qjackctl or cadence, they fail to start jack17:04
n4dirOn ubuntustudio i can do that.17:04
fsmithredthe apps must support jack, and you probably need to set that in the app's prefs.17:04
n4dir(btw: not sure if you read it: my qjackctl problem is gone once i upgraded it from the librazik repo. Weird, but anyway)17:04
fsmithredyeah, I saw that.17:05
n4dirI don't really care if the apps stop "playing", what bugs me is the failure of qjackctl/cadence to start jack.17:06
n4dirTook me quite a while to figure the reason out17:06
fsmithredyou expect the apps to start it?17:06
n4dirwell: now i know the solution i don't care that much either.17:06
fsmithredon systems where I use it, I add it to desktop startup apps.17:06
n4dirno. I was just used to simply start jack17:06
n4dirwhat? jack?17:06
n4dirwait a second, on buntustudio it autostarts too.17:07
fsmithredyes. desktop starts qjackctl and qjackctl starts jackd17:07
n4dirok, will try that17:07
n4dirAs said: now that i know the reason i am fine. But if jack doesn't start i start .... to sweat :-)17:07
n4dirutter voodoo, as far its me17:07
fsmithredjack can be temperamental17:08
fsmithredworks great when it works17:08
n4diri am not that much a fan of ubuntu, but regarding that they sure did a great job. It works all the time.17:08
n4dirbad thing is that i hardly know anything bout it. It just works17:08
n4dirin general it works with devuan well too though. No big problems17:09
fsmithredusing tunepie here with audacious as the player. I just changed the audaicous prefs to use jack.17:10
n4dirlet me try17:10
fsmithredGot no sound at first. Had to make the connections manualy in jack.17:10
fsmithredand then I had to restart audacious17:10
n4dirok, found it.17:10
n4dirI love moving those cables around to connect. So funny. Hence i really like modular synthesizers.17:11
n4dirto sum it up: autostart qjackctl with the WM/DE. Make the apps use jack.17:11
fsmithredno, you don't have to make the connections manually17:12
n4dirif in doubt connect the cables17:12
fsmithredjust have jack running before audacious opens (assuming it's already set to use jack)17:12
n4dirNo? But where is the fun if it gets done automatically ?17:12
n4dirah, got you17:12
n4dirmoc does it automatically. Well: not here, as said, but usually. Some do it, some don't. Funny stuff17:13
n4dirwell: if jack is already running, and i start mocp then, then it does it automatically. Like that17:13
n4dirfsmithred: who wouldn't love that: https://share.riseup.net/#1Z2jQHxNKtW4Qn-G0sdk2Q17:17
n4dirthe cable chaos i mean17:17
fsmithredyeah, that looks kinda like the server rack at the radio station17:18
n4diri'd love to have such as hardware. Toys !17:19
n4dirAnyway: gotta go and eat and stuff. Thanks for the insight and help.17:19
fsmithredsee you later17:20
ErRandirpwd17:31
fsmithred #devuan17:32
ErRandirwoops, sorry!17:32
fsmithredlol17:32
brocashelmcurrently facing a segfault issue. affected line of code (trying to get a game that previously launched on devuan): env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=data ./bgdi SorR.dat22:49
brocashelmam i missing some libraries?22:49
gnarfacebrocashelm: gonna need to see more of the error to guess23:50
gnarfacebrocashelm: "segfault" doesn't tell us anything other than it tried to read something it expected to be there and it wasn't, so a missing anything is possible23:51
gnarfacebrocashelm: (the thing it tried to find could have been a library or a data file or even just a function call, so the problem may even be just having the wrong version of some library rather than actually missing it completely)23:53
brocashelmgnarface: the package i'm referring to is sorr (streets of rage remake). not long ago, it worked fine on devuan, but the problem is it's stuck on the env LD_LIBRARY_PATH line and crashing now23:57
gnarfacebrocashelm: oh, you didn't write that line? there's some launch wrapper script or something?23:58
gnarfacebrocashelm: try it without specifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or at least try making sure "./data" is present23:58
brocashelmgnarface: right, it's even crashing on a clean install23:58
gnarfacebrocashelm: is this through Steam?23:58
brocashelmgnarface: no, straight deb package. i found it here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/857920/how-to-run-streets-of-rage-5-remake-on-ubuntu-natively23:59
gnarfacebrocashelm: i would look for a list of dependencies and versions and check them manually23:59

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