libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2020-09-27

systemdleteDoes anyone else besides me find the tp-link.com website extraordinarily slow?  All other sites and connections are fine here.  Just tp-link.com, and their support doesn't seem to get this.  I've written them 3x now and they are still baffled by the question, apparently.09:10
cronoliomtr tp-link.com09:26
XenguyYes, it is very slow.  Running 'mtr' on that URL shows a lot of delays also it seems.09:27
Xenguyhah09:27
djphiow, not only is their network kit subpar, so also is their website.13:43
luser978ime the worse a hightech co's website is, the better the produts they make are. and vice versa. ic maker's sites in particular.16:53
systemdletethank you Xenguy for comparison checking.  I just want to make sure it really ISN'T my system, somehow... even though all my other open tabs and other browsers don't have this.18:05
systemdleteI wonder if tp-link has a IRC channel... wouldn't that be fun.18:05
Xenguysystemdlete: np18:16
systemdletersyslog (or syslog-ng) is installed in /usr/sbin.  Will /usr be mounted in time for the logger to start if /usr is a separate filesystem?  (I don't want to debate separate /usr fs here; I'm just wondering if it will work on a separate /usr)19:49
systemdleteI guess the answer boils down to when the services are started, if all the mounts are completed (including /usr) BEFORE the logger is started.  I suppose that can be accomplished by correct ordering.19:52
cronolioi don't know but i guess first think which is doing a init system it's setup 1 system clock 2 mount fs and virtual fs19:55
systemdletersyslog is S02 so that's pretty early in the startups19:55
cronolio0 maybe there also mount kernel modules19:56
cronoliomount - load19:56
systemdleteIt looks like mountall.sh does the processing of fstab, but I can't find where that is called from.19:58
cronolioother software like mount mountpoint can use fstab20:00
systemdleteLooks like mountall.sh is called from something named /etc/init.d/.depend.boot20:01
systemdleteand that is called from rc20:02
systemdleteso /etc/init.d/rc calls /etc/init.d/.depend.boot and that calls mountall.sh20:03
systemdleteand that happens before the services are started.20:03
systemdleteI'm still not sure if I like that the logger is in /usr.  There could be cases where admins need to boot in single mode to investigate something and need the logger running for whatever reason.  idk, just my take.20:04
cronolioinit looking into inittab and there is rc 1-6 or S or ... thne rc.. then init.d/script20:05
DPAThe only thing that should process the /etc/fstab is `mount` itself. My system would break badly otherwise, my /etc/fstab is a directory...20:07
DPAOr rather, libmount1, to be more precise.20:10
systemdleteDPA: Take a look at mountall.sh in /etc/init.d20:11
systemdleteThis is how all the local filesystems get mounted.20:11
* systemdlete has answered his own question anyway20:11
DPAO my god, /lib/init/mount-functions.sh really does parse the fstab, and it doesn't handle /etc/fstab/*.fstab, but only /etc/fstab.d/*.fstab. I wonder if my system will survive renaming the folder...20:16
DPAIt didn't work. Looks like there's a bug, since support for /etc/fstab.d/ was removed from libmount, /etc/fstab/ as directory still works though, but mount-functions.sh only checks the former...20:23
DPAI'm kind of surprised though that my system didn't seam to have problems starting and shutting down regardless, though.20:23
WonkaDPA: for the time being, make the one a symlink to the other?20:26
DPAYea, I guess that should work, thanks.20:29
Wonkaalways happy to help :)20:32
n4dirI want to add the repository of the audio distribution librazik to devuan, and i want to pin it. I did it on the other PC, but now it fails. Here is the full info23:11
n4dirhttp://paste.debian.net/1164895/23:11
n4dircontent of /etc/apt/preferences.d/99librazik; content of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librazi_repo and output of apt-cache policy23:11
n4dirta-da. Got it sorted. I had to replace pasapas in the 99-librazik with download.tuxfamily.org23:13
n4dirlooking a bit closer at the output of apt-cache policy made it clear.23:13
n4dirNext question: Pin-Priority do i want?23:14

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