| unixbsd | This little code allows to install devuan, clone, and more thing. ("clone" "/dev/sda2" to copy), using C and sys. https://termbin.com/i1br (nconfig.c) | 01:00 |
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| xkr47 | Hello | 09:13 |
| xkr47 | http://packages.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease 301-redirects to http://packages.roundr.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease which has just one IP in the pool - 5.196.38.18 which does not respond | 09:13 |
| xkr47 | is the fix in my end or in devuan's end? | 09:14 |
| onefang | Try using deb.devuan.org instead. | 09:18 |
| xkr47 | thx | 09:21 |
| xkr47 | I should upgrade | 09:21 |
| Xenguy | Me too | 09:53 |
| Xenguy | Bought a new external hard drive today, so will bust that out tomorrow, and run some backups first | 09:54 |
| Xenguy | Running Ascii now, and looking to do the upgrade to stable | 09:55 |
| g0zzy | Strangely, enabling auto_login in /etc/slim.conf (Beowulf) as detailed on the Arch wiki made no difference. I haven't got the box up at the moment, but is that conf ignored for some reason? | 12:21 |
| hagbard_ | Autologin works for me. | 12:23 |
| g0zzy | Hmm | 12:23 |
| hagbard_ | Just have set the default user, and set auto_login to yes | 12:24 |
| hagbard_ | But I'm on testing/unstable, not sure if that makes a difference. | 12:24 |
| g0zzy | Ah. Arch made no mention of setting the default user. Maybe that's already set on that distro | 12:34 |
| hagbard_ | probably not. That needs to be your user account. And it's indeed mentionend in the Arch wiki. | 12:38 |
| g0zzy | Then i'm an idiot and missed it ;) Thanks. All working now | 12:38 |
| jiefk[m] | Hey guys, is there a Devuan logo in SVG format somewhere ? | 13:12 |
| hagbard_ | jiefk[m] : There are svg desktop backgrounds with the logo beeing part of it. | 13:28 |
| jiefk[m] | hagbard_: Thanks, I'll try to extract one from a bg :) | 13:30 |
| golinux | jiefk[m]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics | 17:50 |
| golinux | Should be in there somewhere. | 17:50 |
| golinux | jiefk[m]: Yup. It's here https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/devuan-logo-1000x200.png | 17:55 |
| jiefk[m] | Yup, thanks golinux :), Also found the SVG logo ^^ | 17:56 |
| golinux | All the artwrok is in there | 17:59 |
| user___ | Hi. I discovered I am unable to send Ctrl-M to a windows program running inside wine on xfce4 on beowulf. | 18:43 |
| user___ | Does anyone have tips on how to tweak settings to make this work? There seems to be no problem sending ctrl-M in other apps. I tried xev too. The keyboard translations seem to be okay. | 18:43 |
| user___ | My keyboard is set to English/US when trying this. I do not have any non Latin keyboards installed anyway. | 18:44 |
| user___ | k | 18:44 |
| gordonDrogon | user___, does typing Ctrl-V then Ctrl-M work? | 18:46 |
| user___ | no. This is not vi :) | 18:47 |
| user___ | rephrased: Ctrl-V pastes the clipboard buffer as expected | 18:47 |
| gnarface | seems weird but suggests your window manager is capturing ctrl+m | 18:51 |
| user___ | Yes. | 18:51 |
| gnarface | what if you try super_L+ctrl+m | 18:51 |
| user___ | I don't think I'm set up for super. | 18:51 |
| gnarface | the left windows key? | 18:52 |
| gnarface | next to the left alt key? | 18:52 |
| gnarface | may also be called "option" | 18:52 |
| gnarface | or have a penguin or your PC vendor's logo on it | 18:52 |
| user___ | Sure but does not work. Does not do anything in the required context | 18:53 |
| gnarface | well it was just a theory. my window manager captures the alt key, but super_L+alt sends an escaped alt to wine | 18:53 |
| user___ | ISO_level_3 shift also does nothing | 18:54 |
| gnarface | weird, i wonder if you need some alternate layout | 18:54 |
| gnarface | is it a small netbook? | 18:54 |
| gnarface | or something with a compact keyboard? | 18:55 |
| user___ | I tried all combinations again now, no joy. | 18:55 |
| user___ | It's a pc with a 105 key kbd. | 18:55 |
| user___ | I also tried "other languages" | 18:55 |
| user___ | xev shows Ctrl-M returns 0x0d as it should | 18:56 |
| user___ | so not the wm | 18:56 |
| user___ | wine must be doing something screwy then. Previous versions of wine did not cause the problem. | 18:57 |
| * user___ starts notebook.exe under wine to check if all apps are affected | 18:57 | |
| user___ | in notepad Ctrl-M does the same as Enter: inserts a new line. In Wodpad, they do nothing, only Enter works. | 19:00 |
| user___ | wine Ctrl-M handling on google lands me essentially on all AAA sites... | 19:02 |
| user___ | maybe-related https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=4273 | 19:03 |
| user___ | but I already checked the Ctrl-M makes it to X11 apps like xev. | 19:03 |
| user___ | I enabled a compose key in the kbd layout let's see if it helps any | 19:05 |
| user___ | Compose does not help with this. | 19:08 |
| user___ | It helps with accents I never bothered to type in so far, however. | 19:09 |
| suavedandy | Good news, everyone. | 19:19 |
| suavedandy | Dev1 Galaxy's working fine without VPN now. | 19:19 |
| suavedandy | Magic. | 19:19 |
| suavedandy | And I almost thought of buying NordVPN. | 19:20 |
| mason | suavedandy: https://youtu.be/9PStC-LNZ2s | 19:20 |
| AlexLikeRock | hi devuan lovers | 19:22 |
| suavedandy | That's Prof. Farnsworth's phrase, actually. | 19:22 |
| suavedandy | From Futurama. | 19:22 |
| mason | suavedandy: Yes. "Some people say I'm robbing the cradle. *I* say she's robbing the grave." | 19:22 |
| suavedandy | Guys. What do you prefer: KDE with tiling or a minimal tiling WM? | 19:26 |
| mason | suavedandy: Option 3: minimal stacking WM with tiling navigation overlaid. | 19:27 |
| suavedandy | I thought KDE is easier to customize. | 19:27 |
| mason | s/stacking/floating/ | 19:28 |
| suavedandy | It's funny how I move from the more complex solutions to simpler ones over time due to my inexperience. | 19:30 |
| suavedandy | If that will continue the same way I'll fly right into freaking Ubuntu or something. | 19:31 |
| suavedandy | Or do something even more insane. | 19:31 |
| suavedandy | I dunno. | 19:32 |
| mason | There can be a distinction between "simpler" and "they've made all the complex choices" of course. | 19:33 |
| n4dir | imho for quite a few things cli stuff is the most simple solution, and be it only for it not changing that much. | 19:38 |
| n4dir | might be me, i do everything very basic, but mocp or xmms don't seem to have changed as long i use them. | 19:39 |
| n4dir | same would be valid for, say, xfce, which didn't change in a way which made me go: "say what?" | 19:40 |
| user___ | . | 20:11 |
| user___ | what's the defocus channel called again? | 20:14 |
| user___ | #devuan-antisocial? no | 20:14 |
| n4dir | devuan-offtopic? | 20:16 |
| brocashelm | can i be mod of #devuan-antisocial? | 20:21 |
| brocashelm | and yeah it's #devuan-offtopic for ot chat | 20:21 |
| user___ | you can be all you want to be on irc. Start your own channel. | 20:23 |
| clort | can i get old iptables back, or does someone have a howto/script for setting up a bridge from usb-networked client device to my ethernet-connected internet? thank you | 20:24 |
| brocashelm | suavedandy: give riseupvpn a try if you need a free vpn provider. i tried it earlier today and it was very cool | 20:24 |
| clort | iptables-legacy not found (devuan ceres) | 20:25 |
| suavedandy | brocashelm: What's the data limit? | 20:26 |
| user___ | https://serverfault.com/questions/821245/how-to-hook-an-ethernet-over-usb-connection-up-to-the-host-network clort | 20:26 |
| brocashelm | suavedandy: not sure, but here's their page: https://riseup.net/en/vpn | 20:27 |
| brocashelm | maybe check the "limitations of using a vpn" section | 20:27 |
| suavedandy | "…we believe it is important for everyone to use some technology like VPN or Tor to encrypt their internet traffic." | 20:28 |
| user___ | is there something native to pool/bridge vpns? https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Link_Aggregation_.28LACP.29_with_VLANs | 20:28 |
| suavedandy | Hm. | 20:28 |
| suavedandy | That was debunked by several people. Tor? Maybe. | 20:28 |
| user___ | suavedandy: depending on where you live that may be a life saver. Literally. | 20:28 |
| suavedandy | But VPN for privacy? | 20:29 |
| suavedandy | New. | 20:29 |
| clort | nftables breaks everything | 20:29 |
| clort | iptables: symbol lookup error: iptables: undefined symbol: xtables_fini | 20:29 |
| user___ | And or the only way out of the country. No, VPN alone will not protect your privacy. A ssh or tor tunnel over vpn might | 20:29 |
| suavedandy | Although some folks use VPN AND Tor. | 20:29 |
| user___ | clort: I have no experience with nftables. What version are you on? | 20:29 |
| clort | non-function tables is what nftables stands for | 20:29 |
| clort | ceres | 20:29 |
| clort | they got rid of iptables | 20:30 |
| user___ | suavedandy: ssh tunnel in tor tunnel in vpn? :) Bring the alu foil underwear. | 20:30 |
| * clort points to baseball bat | 20:30 | |
| brocashelm | some privacy is better than none. a vpn alone is not going to save you, but it can still go a long way if you know what you're doing. for starters, not letting your isp or state officials keep tabs on you is a step in the right direction for anonymity | 20:30 |
| n4dir | 7 proxies ! | 20:30 |
| suavedandy | Ah. Now I remember. Isn't proxy faster? | 20:31 |
| clort | if you're setting fire to your city you shouldn't have anonymity | 20:31 |
| brocashelm | and better to use a "public" vpn than a "dedicated" one: the former is harder to track | 20:31 |
| user___ | clort: re: iptables, what replaced them again? | 20:31 |
| clort | nftables | 20:32 |
| brocashelm | ah, the "i have nothing to hide" argument | 20:32 |
| clort | it's not the 'i have nothing to hide' argument | 20:32 |
| brocashelm | face it: there are things you would like to say that you wouldn't say at your work, school, etc. because of circumstances | 20:33 |
| clort | if you're engaging in literal terrorism, i want you found and punished | 20:33 |
| brocashelm | so i don't think it's fair to assume that people using vpn/tor is up to no good. valuing your privacy means you don't wish to become used by corporations | 20:33 |
| suavedandy | I prefer keeping things to myself if possible. | 20:34 |
| brocashelm | sure, i would hope actual criminals are caught and served by justice | 20:34 |
| n4dir | clort: it isn't that easy to distinguish that. | 20:34 |
| brocashelm | but it's not fair to everyone else to silence them | 20:35 |
| clort | anyway, i can't believe they broke iptables | 20:35 |
| suavedandy | After all, you don't let other people to snoop around your car or give them your toothbrush. | 20:35 |
| suavedandy | Your PC. Your rules. | 20:36 |
| clort | i think we all know the privacy 101 arguments | 20:36 |
| suavedandy | That's how it's s'posed to be. | 20:36 |
| mason | #devuan-offtopic is here for your pleasure | 20:36 |
| suavedandy | Sorry. | 20:36 |
| suavedandy | Jus sayin'. | 20:36 |
| suavedandy | I'm just very greedy for my possessions. | 20:37 |
| clort | then respect the property of others | 20:37 |
| brocashelm | feel free to join #devuan-offtopic | 20:38 |
| user___ | clort: was Poettering involved? | 20:40 |
| user___ | in breaking iptables? | 20:40 |
| user___ | tbh iptables is a crufty jungle to set up. But it works. | 20:40 |
| user___ | Ceres is Buster? 10? | 20:42 |
| brocashelm | ceres is sid | 20:42 |
| user___ | oh | 20:43 |
| brocashelm | beowulf is buster | 20:43 |
| clort | The netfilter project was founded by Paul "Rusty" Russell | 20:43 |
| brocashelm | chimaera is bullseye | 20:43 |
| user___ | clort: tbh nftables seems superior to iptables. | 20:43 |
| user___ | wikipedia article on it is good | 20:43 |
| clort | "Following James' assimilation into the collective"... | 20:43 |
| clort | language always gives them away | 20:43 |
| clort | https://netfilter.org/about.html#coreteam | 20:44 |
| user___ | language gives whom away? | 20:44 |
| brocashelm | i use ceres and it's incredibly snappy. just got kernel 5.9 from the upstream. stable as rock in the last four months i've been using it, so i have no need for lts at this point | 20:45 |
| clort | it's a quote from George Carlin user___ | 20:45 |
| user___ | "Following James' assimilation into the collective," oh god. THAT kind of ass imilation. | 20:45 |
| user___ | clort: it appears in the article you linked as above | 20:45 |
| user___ | Oh I see. | 20:46 |
| user___ | What collective? Are they a helicopter? Helis do really badly after they "assimilate" foreign materials into the collective controls... <sncr> | 20:46 |
| user___ | I see the nft vm as superior to the iptables approach but maybe they should have copied the bsd kind of fw at least for user controls. | 20:47 |
| user___ | tbh ipfw is probably as bad as iptables was cli complexity wise but it has a very solid backing and track record. | 20:48 |
| clort | i just want my usb-networking devices to get access to internet | 20:49 |
| user___ | f.ex. I think linux QoS at fw level is still a joke, pf does it out of the box. | 20:49 |
| clort | i don't want to start a firewall admin career with nftables | 20:49 |
| user___ | :) | 20:49 |
| user___ | Tbh I think nft is not what you use to set up a bridge at all. | 20:50 |
| user___ | If you want a bridge that is. A transparent one presumably. brtools? | 20:50 |
| clort | there is no package brtools | 20:51 |
| clort | iptables -L | 20:51 |
| clort | iptables: symbol lookup error: iptables: undefined symbol: xtables_fini | 20:51 |
| user___ | bridge-utils | 20:52 |
| user___ | do you have brctl? | 20:52 |
| user___ | https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Manual_bridge_setup | 20:52 |
| user___ | try it manually 1st | 20:52 |
| clort | i do, thanks | 20:53 |
| user___ | nft you need for a NAT'd "router" style setup, not for a br | 20:53 |
| user___ | you can still use nft to limit damage of the lesser system from possible attack from internet side. | 20:54 |
| clort | well it's not quite trivial when internet is on tun0. brctl addif br0 eth0 usb0 breaks network. brctl addif br0 tun0 usb0 says can't add tun0 to bridge br0: Invalid argument | 20:58 |
| clort | but i can take down the vpn tunnel first, try setting up bridge to eth0, then bringing up openvpn | 20:59 |
| user___ | to add interfaces 1st down them, then give the IP to the brX | 20:59 |
| gnarface | didn't read the whole scrollback, but my thought is you're probably going to have to edit the openvpn config to account for this | 20:59 |
| user___ | the brX is the ONLY interface with an ip from the group normally | 21:00 |
| user___ | clort: arch has a better howto as usual https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_bridge | 21:01 |
| user___ | clort: so, again: down all interfaces you want to bridge, unset their IP's (0.0.0.0), then bring up each, then bridge them, then give one IP to the bridge. | 21:02 |
| clort | thanks user___ - even with openvpn down brctl addif br0 eth0 usb0 breaks network connection to usb0 and eth0 | 21:02 |
| clort | k | 21:02 |
| user___ | it needs to be down to get a "no" ip address, then up | 21:03 |
| user___ | remember whatever addresses you had on the subnets will now be on ONE subnet. The one you assign to the brX | 21:03 |
| clort | ahh | 21:03 |
| user___ | You may have to do extra virtual nets on top of the br | 21:04 |
| user___ | like ifconfig eth0:1 10.0.7.77 netmask 255.255.255.0 ... | 21:04 |
| user___ | that adds a virtual net on top of the existing eth0 | 21:04 |
| user___ | you still need to NAT between the nets to port forward | 21:05 |
| user___ | in the case of the bridged ones I never tried to do ifconfig br0:1 etc but it should work | 21:05 |
| user___ | I don't know how many virtual nets you can add in a default built kernel. I used up to three without trouble. | 21:06 |
| clort | doing without the openvpn first | 21:15 |
| suavedandy | So I'm installing Devuan with ESP and root. | 21:16 |
| suavedandy | Should ESP be 1G? | 21:16 |
| suavedandy | I remember someone said that. | 21:17 |
| suavedandy | To store… something. | 21:17 |
| suavedandy | I can also make it 260 or 512 meg. | 21:17 |
| clort | what's ESP | 21:21 |
| suavedandy | EFI System Partition. | 21:24 |
| * user___ utters choice words wrt the unnecessary complexity of the ip command | 21:38 | |
| suavedandy | fsmithred: Tried your installer. Very cool. | 21:40 |
| suavedandy | Look at that script rolling. | 21:41 |
| suavedandy | Beautiful. | 21:41 |
| suavedandy | "The system is ready to chroot." | 21:43 |
| suavedandy | HM. | 21:43 |
| suavedandy | HM-HM. | 21:43 |
| suavedandy | Okay, I'mma take a look at Arch Wiki real quick. | 21:47 |
| user___ | clort: worky? | 21:49 |
| clort | no | 21:49 |
| user___ | which part refuses to work? | 21:50 |
| suavedandy | Sheesh, there are so many users created. | 21:53 |
| suavedandy | fsmithred: I'd assume that devuan is my user, right? | 21:53 |
| user___ | yes | 21:54 |
| user___ | just don't ask what the root password is :) | 21:55 |
| suavedandy | I'm just testing if the system got installed properly. | 21:55 |
| suavedandy | For now I made it so it'll autologin automatically. | 21:56 |
| user___ | refracta is good. | 21:56 |
| n4dir | traditionally user was user and root was root (username:password). Might have changed, but i don't think so | 21:57 |
| suavedandy | Does it set the root and user passwords by default or do I need to set them? | 21:57 |
| suavedandy | Oh, wait. | 21:58 |
| n4dir | with refractainstall script? Then you will get asked. Just did it | 21:58 |
| suavedandy | The root is disabled. | 21:58 |
| user___ | :) | 21:58 |
| user___ | sudo should work as user | 21:58 |
| suavedandy | As well as the user, actually. | 21:59 |
| suavedandy | I need to set the password. | 21:59 |
| suavedandy | It shows "❌" in "/etc/passwd" | 21:59 |
| user___ | yeah that's not how you set the password | 21:59 |
| user___ | there's /etc/shadow | 21:59 |
| user___ | you're not running vipw right? :) | 22:00 |
| suavedandy | Wait. If I enabled autologin then… | 22:00 |
| suavedandy | Maybe it didn't ask for a password because of that? | 22:00 |
| suavedandy | Damn. | 22:01 |
| suavedandy | You're right. | 22:01 |
| suavedandy | Indeed, root and user do have passwords. | 22:01 |
| suavedandy | How do I disable root tho? | 22:02 |
| suavedandy | ❌? | 22:02 |
| user___ | that is rather unsafe | 22:02 |
| suavedandy | I kno. | 22:02 |
| suavedandy | Just testing. | 22:02 |
| user___ | https://www.tecmint.com/disable-root-login-in-linux/ before you lock yourself out read... | 22:03 |
| suavedandy | It's okay, dude. I'm just trying things out. | 22:08 |
| suavedandy | If I'll fail I'll just reinstall. | 22:08 |
| user___ | Great way to use that great refracta installer over and over again :) | 22:12 |
| clort | werneta: out of braintime for it user___ thanks though | 22:12 |
| user___ | clort: it should work. | 22:13 |
| suavedandy | So. No that I gave my user sudo priveleges, do I replace the hash with x in /etc/shadow for root? | 22:14 |
| suavedandy | Oh, wait. Why am I doing this? I just wanted to test if it's booting or not. | 22:17 |
| suavedandy | I've just wasted my time on something pointless. | 22:17 |
| fsmithred | back | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | toor | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | (for devuan-live isos) | 22:33 |
| user___ | too late, he disabled it :) | 22:34 |
| user___ | suavedandy: ! in /etc/shadow is more likely | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | for next time | 22:34 |
| suavedandy | No, I didn't. | 22:35 |
| kingsley | Hi. It seems to me there's a nice review of 46(!) distros that don't use systemd at | 22:36 |
| kingsley | https://www.slant.co/topics/18348/~linux-distros-that-don-t-use-systemd | 22:36 |
| suavedandy | fsmithred: What does auto-login do? | 22:36 |
| fsmithred | logs you in automatically? | 22:36 |
| fsmithred | what would you expect it to do? | 22:36 |
| suavedandy | I'm asking because your script asks me to disable autologin. | 22:37 |
| suavedandy | Yeah, I suspected that. | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | you how normally when you boot up you get a login screen? | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | autologin bypasses that | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | actually there are two things | 22:37 |
| suavedandy | Yeah, right. I was correct. | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | console autologin is controlled in /etc/inittab | 22:37 |
| suavedandy | Thought it's something else. | 22:37 |
| kingsley | I'm happy to report it rates the very cool Devuan at #3 for having almost as many packages as Debian. | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | desktop autologin is in diplay manager config file | 22:37 |
| suavedandy | Weird that your script doesn't ask for a new user password. Is it set up after chrooting? | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | suavedandy, it does ask for it | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | are you chrooting? | 22:38 |
| user___ | kingsley: there are several reviews but thanks for posting that one too. | 22:39 |
| fsmithred | I hope not. | 22:39 |
| suavedandy | After installing the bootloader? | 22:39 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 22:39 |
| suavedandy | Ahhhh. | 22:39 |
| suavedandy | And I thought the prompt suggested me to chroot so I set the password or something. | 22:39 |
| kingsley | user: Thanks. I like seeing more interest in taming software complexity. | 22:39 |
| fsmithred | chroot choice is a leftover from when I was trying to add support for uefi | 22:40 |
| fsmithred | and it's there in case you want to do stuff manually | 22:40 |
| fsmithred | but if you choose that, you must install the bootloader manually | 22:40 |
| user___ | kingsley: fwiw PsychOS is devuan based... | 22:40 |
| fsmithred | or better, if you want to mess with stuff in chroot, just go to another terminal and chroot /target | 22:41 |
| fsmithred | then you can go back and select something other than chroot (like Install bootloader) | 22:41 |
| suavedandy | Hmmmm. | 22:42 |
| suavedandy | It didn't ask for the new user password. | 22:43 |
| suavedandy | I chose the option to keep sudo and disable root. | 22:43 |
| suavedandy | The only thing it asked is if I want to set a username. | 22:44 |
| fsmithred | I think it's the last question | 22:47 |
| suavedandy | It is. | 22:47 |
| suavedandy | Because the installation script ended. | 22:48 |
| fsmithred | next to last. Root pass is last. | 22:48 |
| fsmithred | did you use the graphical installer? | 22:48 |
| suavedandy | Nope. | 22:48 |
| fsmithred | if so, send me the log. shit. | 22:48 |
| fsmithred | don't bother unless you ran it with -d option | 22:48 |
| suavedandy | I didn't. | 22:49 |
| clort | what's the simple devuan-ceres way to update clock? ntpdate-debian complains ntpdig: socket error on transmission: [Errono 101] Network is unreachable | 22:49 |
| user___ | is the network up... | 22:49 |
| clort | i can ping stuff on the interwebs | 22:50 |
| suavedandy | So the last question was about the sudo access. And before that the script asked if I wanted to change the username. | 22:50 |
| clort | what's the simple devuan-ceres way to update clock? \ | 22:50 |
| user___ | clort: ntp does not like vpns | 22:50 |
| suavedandy | Perhaps I needed to change the username to be asked for a password? | 22:50 |
| clort | how should i normally update ntp date/time? | 22:50 |
| user___ | clort: try an explicit server w/o vpn near you | 22:51 |
| clort | what do i type on a device without vpn, to update date? | 22:51 |
| user___ | date -s=string; hwclock --systtohc | 22:51 |
| fsmithred | clort, I usually use ntpdate-debian | 22:51 |
| user___ | clort: that is manually | 22:51 |
| fsmithred | oh, not in ceres | 22:51 |
| fsmithred | suavedandy, change user name comes right before the sudo question | 22:52 |
| fsmithred | there's a replacement for nptdate, but I don't recall the name | 22:52 |
| suavedandy | Then I have no idea where the script should have asked for password. | 22:53 |
| fsmithred | suavedandy, it always asks to change the passwords | 22:53 |
| clort | thanks fsmithred and user___ . date says invalid date '=string' user___ | 22:53 |
| suavedandy | When it asked if I should disable autologin, perhaps? | 22:53 |
| suavedandy | *want to | 22:53 |
| user___ | clort: yeah string should be a real date spec... | 22:53 |
| user___ | clort: date -s "22:30:00" | 22:54 |
| user___ | clort: man date describes it exactly | 22:55 |
| clort | easy enough thanks | 22:55 |
| clort | man date is unparseable for me | 22:55 |
| suavedandy | fsmithred: Does the password prompt come after installing the bootloader? | 22:55 |
| suavedandy | Oh, wait. | 22:55 |
| suavedandy | I'mma search for the installation vid. | 22:55 |
| suavedandy | Maybe it'll give me a clue. | 22:56 |
| fsmithred | suavedandy, it goes like this: rsync copies stuff to hard drive, then the bootloader gets installed, then change-username stuff happens, which includes passwords | 22:56 |
| suavedandy | Ah, so I shouldn't have pressed ENTER when asked for a username? | 22:57 |
| suavedandy | Gimme a sec. | 22:57 |
| fsmithred | if you don't enter a new name, you keep the old one | 22:57 |
| fsmithred | not sure if it asks about autologin | 22:57 |
| fsmithred | ok, I guess it does, because it's not in the config file | 22:58 |
| suavedandy | Man, I'm hungry. | 22:59 |
| suavedandy | Gotta go eat something. | 22:59 |
| CorvusCorax | hi. I have an issue with "apt update" on ascii -- I get : E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii-***/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 23:19 |
| CorvusCorax | for both ascii-backports, ascii-security | 23:20 |
| CorvusCorax | file sizes and creation dates also report mismatches | 23:20 |
| golinux | Amprolla is misbehaving, I'd say | 23:21 |
| CorvusCorax | who's Amprolla? ;) | 23:21 |
| golinux | The script that merges Debian into Devuan. | 23:22 |
| CorvusCorax | ah. I see. I just checked for the mirror de.deb.devuan.org I get the same error only on http://deb.devuan.org//merged/dists/ascii-security/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 - but not on backports | 23:23 |
| CorvusCorax | but both have the same date mismatch: "Sun, 18 Oct 2020 01:33:38 +0000 vs Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:25:50 +0000" | 23:24 |
| CorvusCorax | sorry, that was incorrect, the mismatches are 'almost' the same, the other is "Sun, 18 Oct 2020 01:33:17 +0000 vs Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:56:15 +0000" | 23:26 |
| CorvusCorax | is there anything I can do, or just wait? | 23:27 |
| golinux | FYI, CC are deprecated | 23:27 |
| golinux | Maybe pick a mirror from the mirror list | 23:28 |
| clort | wow i lost usb device.. usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device | 23:28 |
| golinux | We do have an SOS out to the amprolla dev | 23:28 |
| CorvusCorax | "CC are deprecated" <-- "CC" ? | 23:29 |
| golinux | Country Codes | 23:30 |
| CorvusCorax | will try some more mirrors | 23:30 |
| golinux | We have a round-robin | 23:30 |
| golinux | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt | 23:31 |
| CorvusCorax | thanks. I think the install script set that up with CC when I first installed ASCII. although i have a number of vms that are always updated more or less simultaneously, it would be advantages if I can ensure they all chose the same mirror, so they either all succeed or all fail - but not some end up updated correctly and some not due to a mirror problem | 23:35 |
| golinux | Yes, the CC have changed after ASCII | 23:37 |
| suavedandy | round-robin sounds like Tim Drake after quarantine. | 23:38 |
| CorvusCorax | lol | 23:44 |
| CorvusCorax | "is that the penguin there? No, I think that one is batman. he gained a bit of weight..." | 23:45 |
| suavedandy | fsmithred: Yeah, I shouldn't have skipped the "Change username" step. | 23:45 |
| fsmithred | suavedandy, it should still ask you to change the password | 23:46 |
| fsmithred | you probably blew through it with ENTER | 23:46 |
| suavedandy | I don't think so. | 23:46 |
| suavedandy | And the system requires you to decrypt the drive twice. | 23:46 |
| suavedandy | Which is problematic. | 23:47 |
| suavedandy | CorvusCorax: Batman references intensify | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | decrypt twice why? | 23:54 |
| fsmithred | grub and root, or root and home? | 23:54 |
| fsmithred | there's a way to fix the second but not the first | 23:54 |
| fsmithred | (use a keyfile) | 23:56 |
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