libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2021-01-02

DashiePieI reinstalled Chromium and it works now00:17
fsmithredwhew00:18
KREYREEN0.83 of 10.83GB devuan sources seeded~15:35
KREYREEN^-^15:36
nemowow16:19
nemohad no idea the devuan specific overlay sources were so large16:20
KREYREENhm O.o16:23
user____Has anyone got any info on using uio.ko and uio_pci_generic.ko ? I have trouble using the latter with a multi io PCI card, the uio_ driver claims there is no such device, the device works fine with it's own driver (parport_serial PCI 2S+1P card)17:22
user____So any info on bugs/etc concerning uio would be nice. I googled but am asking here too.17:22
gnarfaceslow channel, user____, stick around17:33
nemofor a generic question about kernel modules might want to try #debian or ##linux I imagine17:38
nemomore active at least17:38
nemoodds are devuan didn't touch that17:38
nemouser____: could it possibly be a permissions issue though?17:49
nemouser____: I mean, assuming everything else was correctly setup ☺17:49
nemoand while I know absolutely nothing about setting up uio pci, hopefully you've looked for clues in dmesg already17:50
nemogetting some 404s in chimaera installing spring18:20
nemoW: Failed to fetch http://debian.ipacct.com/debian/pool/main/a/allegro4.4/liballegro4.4_4.4.3.1-1_amd64.deb18:20
nemoW: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/spring/spring-common_104.0+dfsg-7_all.deb18:20
nemohmmm18:20
nemoyou know what18:20
nemoI probably forgot to update lol18:20
nemosorry.18:20
nemoone sec18:20
nemoyep. that was it. my bad18:21
user____it is not a permission issue, the uio_pci_generic module does not export the files it should into sysfs per https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/driver-api/uio-howto.html18:28
user____kernel = 4.19* on Beowulf18:28
user____I assume bit creep hit the docs and they are way out of sync with reality.18:28
user____this is the howto which does not apply https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/driver-api/uio-howto.html18:35
user____All I have left is to check whether the device is not an old PCI 2.2 version hw which won't work with the uio_pci_generic driver. Bummer18:36
user____I've moved on to other ways to do what I need, it is working.18:42
user____There are signs online that uio_pci_generic is now a hisoric piece. Last patches are from 2012?18:47
user____Either that, or it is perfect <grin>. I've really moved on. Just saying.18:48
fsmithredRefracta-11 Pre-Beta (Chimaera) No-X isos are up: https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/18:57
john009I registered a query a few evening back re: no wifi connection while trying to install devuan with the netinstall.iso. Someone suggested using a wired ethernet connection to facilitate the install, and then sort out the wifi afterwards. Good plan (thank you) and it worked, apart from sorting out the wifi now!19:32
john009Connection is random - for only a few minutes at a time (if that) - with frequent disconnects and reconnection (using the connman GUI (CMST)) being much less successful than the initial one (if at all). Error messages are either:19:32
john0091. (In a CMST Warning box). We received a DBUS reply message indicating an error.19:33
john009    Error name: net.conman.Error.Failed19:33
john009    Error Message: Input/output error19:33
john009Or19:33
john0092. The agent request failed before a reply was returned.19:33
john009The I discovered the 'connmanctl' command, which again only connects intermittently. Entries as follows:19:33
john009connmanctl> scan wifi19:33
john009Scan completed for wifi19:33
john009connmanctl> services19:33
john009*A  Jetnet_John          wifi_00166f733dbc_4a65746e65745f4a6f686e_managed_psk19:33
john009connmanctl> agent on19:33
john009Agent already registered19:33
john009connmanctl> connect wifi_00166f733dbc_4a65746e65745f4a6f686e_managed_psk19:33
user____is it possible that you have more than one connection manager running?19:39
user____not of the same kind, of course.19:39
metalune[m]which init system is devuan using again?20:13
n4dirsysv is default20:13
metalune[m]and I can use e.g. runit?20:14
n4diryou can choose openrc during installation, which is said to be experimental. I think you can later switch to, say, runit, but don't know much more20:14
metalune[m]hum.. ok20:14
n4dirwell: i am pretty sure you can use runit, as fsmithred just uploaded a refracta-iso with it (just: a few weeks back)20:15
metalune[m]I can't decide wether I want to try out GNU/Guix or Devuan20:15
n4dirkind of a package-manager, right?20:15
metalune[m]hum?20:15
metalune[m]GNU/Guix is a distribution20:16
n4diroh, sorry. i didn't read the "or" but Guix on Devuan. My fault20:16
metalune[m]and it runs the Libre kernel20:16
metalune[m]heh, it's fine20:16
n4dirWell, as Devuan is pretty comfortable, that is a quick "try".20:17
n4dirSo i would do it in that order. Have a look at devuan first, then Guix, as soon i have enought time and energy20:17
fsmithredif you want libre devuan, use gnuinos20:17
metalune[m]what is guninos?20:18
fsmithreddevuan respin with libre kernel20:18
metalune[m]well, I don't need a respin to install a different kernel lolz20:18
metalune[m]anyway, I'll take a look at it20:18
n4dirprobably not that hard to install the libre kernel on devuan itself, is it?20:18
metalune[m]g2g20:18
fsmithredhere are some beowulf isos: https://www.gnuinos.org/Beowulf/20:19
xinomilothere are linux-libre repos (freesh) for debian/devuan.20:42
Wafficushi there, how do I update my timeclock on Devuan so that its Eastern instead of Central?22:51
DashiePieit automatically set mine correctly23:01
DashiePieI'm EST, and it's correct23:01
WafficusI have 04:0123:01
Wafficusand it should be 05:01 ...23:01
DashiePieweird23:01
WafficusI used to live in Central a few months ago, so its probably on my end23:01
DashiePiemaybe23:01
DashiePiewell, I have MATE and all I did was right click on where the time was, preferences, time preferences23:02
WafficusI just use AwesomeWM, I don't use a DE23:03
DashiePieah, sorry, I've only ever used MATE/Gnome 2, so23:03
WafficusI think it might be in an ncurses menu within Devuan23:03
Wafficusyeah, DE's are a waste, Openbox with Tint2 is better if you're going that route23:03
Wafficusanyway, will figure it out somehow23:03
DashiePiedifference of opinion, we'll have to agree to disagree23:04
DashiePie:P23:04
fsmithredWafficus, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata23:04
Wafficussam@devuandesktop ~ $ dpkg-reconfigure tzdata23:04
Wafficus-bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found23:04
fsmithredyou need to be root23:05
Wafficusyep that worked thanks!23:06
fsmithredyw23:06
fsmithredntpdate-debian23:06
fsmithredto syncrhonize23:06

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