tuxd3v | gnarface, unfortunately Geany is not suitable to online debug, using openocd + arm-none-eabi-gdb | 02:47 |
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tuxd3v | I tested Geany in Chimaera :) | 02:47 |
tuxd3v | But Netbeans 8.2 is capable of debuging, its not the best solution but its one that works.. | 02:48 |
tuxd3v | :) | 02:48 |
Xenguy | Huh, they call geany an IDE, but isn't it really just a text editor? | 03:41 |
golinux | A clunky one | 03:44 |
fsmithred | you can write code in it and then run the code | 03:45 |
fsmithred | it's more than just a text editor | 03:45 |
fsmithred | it lists functions in the left panel and you can jump to them | 03:46 |
fsmithred | and it does other things that I've never really investigated | 03:46 |
fsmithred | search and destroy, of course | 03:46 |
Xenguy | Interesting | 03:52 |
HumanG33k | hi on a devuan server sometimes aptitude update can not resolve deb.devuan domain name. any clue ? | 04:51 |
HumanG33k | also there is somewhere the naming convention for iso ? | 04:52 |
gnarface | HumanG33k: are you on ipv6 with no ipv4 support? | 04:54 |
HumanG33k | no | 04:56 |
HumanG33k | more ipv4 only | 04:56 |
HumanG33k | it's strange because it resolve other repo | 04:57 |
HumanG33k | and if i let it finish and retry it works | 04:57 |
HumanG33k | also a curl work fine | 04:57 |
gnarface | sometimes they are just broken | 04:58 |
HumanG33k | humm | 04:58 |
HumanG33k | not fun | 04:58 |
gnarface | it's a dns resolution error, not just missing packages? | 04:58 |
HumanG33k | sure | 04:58 |
gnarface | packages are sometimes missing on some of the mirrors during updates | 04:58 |
gnarface | i wonder if it's your dns | 04:58 |
gnarface | you could try running a local dns server | 04:59 |
HumanG33k | Erreur temporaire de résolution de « deb.devuan.org » | 04:59 |
Xenguy | vague | 04:59 |
HumanG33k | but on the "line" before | 04:59 |
HumanG33k | Atteint https://repos.fusiondirectory.org/fusiondirectory-extra/debian-stretch stretch InRelease | 04:59 |
gnarface | temporary resolution error i think usually means the dns server didn't respond? | 05:00 |
Xenguy | Oh gawd, the fusion thing again, okay | 05:00 |
HumanG33k | yes but it s not the first time that error occur | 05:00 |
HumanG33k | do not worry Xenguy ;) | 05:00 |
Xenguy | What, me worry? | 05:01 |
HumanG33k | ==> Oh gawd, the fusion thing again, | 05:01 |
Xenguy | Hah | 05:01 |
Xenguy | A lot of rabbitholes these days | 05:02 |
Xenguy | Kind of like infinite, but I'm veering OT of course | 05:02 |
HumanG33k | i just comment the blocking line of the fusion case and taadaaa mark as install and everythings works fine | 05:02 |
Xenguy | Better than a kick in the arse! | 05:03 |
HumanG33k | i will setup soon a lab to investigate if its a devuan trouble, my install trouble or something else. | 05:03 |
Xenguy | Do let us know, for sure | 05:04 |
HumanG33k | i currently not run the everybody configuration | 05:04 |
HumanG33k | and problem can come from several things. | 05:04 |
HumanG33k | for now i identify 3 possibles root causes. one in each category | 05:05 |
Xenguy | Good adventures | 05:06 |
HumanG33k | first a diff between deb and dev, harden stuff or not mainstream apache2 plugin (near than exclude). | 05:06 |
tuxd3v | fsmithred, indeed, I like it for coding, because it has the aspect of a Text Editor, with lots of extra small functionalities.. | 05:06 |
tuxd3v | if the project is Makefile based it goes really well, smoth sailing.. | 05:07 |
tuxd3v | Yes it can compile and run the code.. | 05:07 |
Xenguy | Huh, always trying to keep up with the times, haha | 05:07 |
tuxd3v | But it was created to run code natively in the host machine | 05:08 |
tuxd3v | in the same computer.. | 05:08 |
Xenguy | That's definitely IDE'ish | 05:08 |
tuxd3v | I was trying to program microcontrolers code, and was trying to get Geany, to push the code into the microcontroller and debug the code there | 05:09 |
Xenguy | You like Arm? | 05:09 |
HumanG33k | insert the push in a makefile | 05:09 |
tuxd3v | Obviously it was not created for that, but its a question that somebody creates a GDB_Server plugin, for it, and it will do it | 05:10 |
Xenguy | So a hack, yay | 05:10 |
tuxd3v | I am kidding around with a BluePill, a MCU from STMicroelectronics stm32f103c8t6 arm 32 bits mcu | 05:11 |
Xenguy | Best of luck, way over my head | 05:13 |
tuxd3v | Xenguy, yeah its a sort of a IDE, but using less resources than the gigantic IDE's we know :) | 05:13 |
tuxd3v | A comparison between pills :) | 05:16 |
tuxd3v | https://hackaday.com/2021/01/20/blue-pill-vs-black-pill-transitioning-from-stm32f103-to-stm32f411/ | 05:16 |
Xenguy | Nice, thanks, alright | 05:17 |
tuxd3v | HumanG33k, I am doing that already, via Makefile, but for debuging a graphican environment would be nice.. | 05:27 |
tuxd3v | I am using arm-none-eabi-gdb -tui | 05:27 |
tuxd3v | it does the job but its not the same as a graphical debugger :) | 05:28 |
HumanG33k | that what i will say gdb do the job. | 05:32 |
HumanG33k | and pretty sure you can retrieve "distant" and show it in a nice window. | 05:33 |
tuxd3v | you can enable -tui mode, to enable the ncurses interface | 05:34 |
tuxd3v | it works, but I would love that the gdb plugin for Geany had gdbserver also :) | 05:34 |
tuxd3v | in that way I could do everything from a simplistic IDE :) | 05:34 |
unixbsd | which devuan release has ppsspp in the repository of "Base" ? | 13:06 |
xrogaan | which debian release has that? | 13:32 |
Joril | There's a RFP https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=697821 | 13:32 |
b00b | hi. why does debian need so long to update firefox-esr? mozilla fixed the security issue on 05.02.2021, today it is the 11.02.2021 and the update is still not there. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/78.7.1/releasenotes/ newest debian release is from 27.01.2021 https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/f/firefox-esr/firefox-esr_78.7.0esr-1~deb10u1_changelog | 14:48 |
b00b | oh wait it's windows only... however there's always a big delay always | 14:50 |
xinomilo | nope, firefox-esr always comes in fast.. usually next day | 15:14 |
Guest385 | I'm the one who keeps having problems after lynis | 17:31 |
Guest385 | My problems have now been reduced to a single issue | 17:31 |
Guest385 | I have to do this upon every reboot | 17:31 |
Guest385 | [08:26 root@lappy se7en] > ls -ld /dev/snd | 17:31 |
Guest385 | drwxr-x--- 3 root root 260 Feb 11 08:17 /dev/snd | 17:31 |
Guest385 | [08:27 root@lappy se7en] > chown root:audio /dev/snd | 17:31 |
mason | Guest385: That's unusual. The issue isn't that audio needs to own it, the issue is that /dev/snd ought to be mode 0755 | 17:55 |
mason | Guest385: You should see the working bits inside of already set to group audio. Do you? | 17:55 |
mason | most of the files inside it, to be specific. | 17:56 |
askiw | hi, i am going to install different gpu drivers on my system. is there an easy way to revert changes in case i break something? | 17:57 |
mason | askiw: Depends on how you do it. If you're using the package system, worst case is you use rescue media. Make sure you have back-ups first. | 18:03 |
gnarface | mason: it should be owned by the "audio" group though, or something has gone wrong with eudev/udev | 18:25 |
mason | gnarface: It's not owned by audio here, on Beowulf. | 18:26 |
mason | checking a second system for more datapoints | 18:26 |
gnarface | askiw: most gpu drivers will coexist, in one exception they will not coexist peacefully (nouveau and nvidia) and no there's no way to easily roll back other than uninstall or blacklist the one you're using | 18:26 |
gnarface | askiw: *the one you're not using, i mean | 18:27 |
gnarface | askiw: (process for this is not different fundamentally from debian, though) | 18:28 |
gnarface | mason: oh, you're right, that directory is just root:root 755 | 18:29 |
mason | Yar, checked several systems now. But root:root should be okay as long as the working bits are root:audio. | 18:29 |
gnarface | mason: it's the stuff in it that needs to be owned by audio (and should be mode 660) | 18:29 |
mason | What confuses me is that his actual /dev/snd directory is 0750 | 18:29 |
gnarface | Guest385: ^ aside from this, still looks like a problem with your udev rules | 18:30 |
gnarface | Guest385: if you haven't altered anything, my best guess is somehow your hardware isn't being recognized, or you somehow removed udev | 18:30 |
gnarface | Guest385: *note, hardware can be unrecognized by udev for trivial number-range mistakes in expected device id's and such, independently of whether the driver for said device works feature-wise | 18:31 |
Anonical_juju | hello | 23:46 |
plub | hi | 23:46 |
plub | 850138783? | 23:46 |
Anonical_juju | I have installed devuan just to mess with it for a bit... say what? | 23:46 |
plub | 178417240187 | 23:46 |
numzob | is that ascii? | 23:46 |
plub | do you have a question | 23:47 |
Anonical_juju | Yes anyhow, I have installed devuan but I didn't input any user information. It's asking me for a username and password now and I don't know what they are | 23:47 |
Anonical_juju | what are the defaults? | 23:47 |
plub | good question | 23:48 |
plub | i think maybe root and toore | 23:48 |
plub | toor | 23:48 |
plub | i forgot | 23:48 |
Anonical_juju | ah... sounds familiar | 23:48 |
plub | try root / root | 23:48 |
plub | and root /toor | 23:48 |
plub | should be better documented | 23:49 |
Anonical_juju | I'm having no luck with either | 23:49 |
daimon | Anonical_juju, your screwed reinstall | 23:49 |
golinux | Depends on which installer you used live or netinstall | 23:49 |
plub | must have been one of those | 23:49 |
daimon | I got smashed by that a few days ago ;p | 23:49 |
fsmithred | devuan:devuan | 23:49 |
Anonical_juju | booooo I did it by optical drive :( | 23:49 |
fsmithred | root:toor | 23:50 |
daimon | even though I never set a root pass and installed no other users | 23:50 |
daimon | but eh I assume it will be the same result | 23:50 |
numzob | boot live cd. chroot. passwd. exit? | 23:50 |
fsmithred | oh, Anonical_juju you might have some problems there | 23:50 |
fsmithred | if sound is not working, reboot and boot to ram | 23:50 |
Anonical_juju | do you want the other part of this fun experiment? | 23:50 |
fsmithred | sure | 23:51 |
Anonical_juju | there is a supervisor password that won't let me change the boot order | 23:51 |
fsmithred | oh, on the computer? | 23:51 |
daimon | fsmithred, as an aside from that chat we had couple days ago, that box is now up and running :) thank you again for the help seamless install | 23:51 |
Anonical_juju | no OS > CD-ROM is fine. an OS > no fun allowed | 23:51 |
fsmithred | what do you mean? | 23:52 |
daimon | he cant change the boot order | 23:52 |
daimon | bios boot order | 23:52 |
fsmithred | is cdrom first? | 23:52 |
Anonical_juju | I think it is when there is no other bootable media. | 23:52 |
daimon | that means its last | 23:53 |
Anonical_juju | USB is disabled | 23:53 |
daimon | PXE? | 23:53 |
fsmithred | okay. I was going to suggest usb, but I didn't get to that. | 23:53 |
fsmithred | I'm confused. | 23:53 |
fsmithred | you got to a login screen? | 23:53 |
Anonical_juju | yeah | 23:53 |
fsmithred | are you there now? | 23:54 |
Anonical_juju | yes | 23:54 |
fsmithred | name and password are devuan | 23:54 |
Anonical_juju | neither of any of those combinations go through | 23:54 |
fsmithred | what iso are you using? | 23:54 |
Anonical_juju | server CD 1/3 | 23:55 |
fsmithred | oh, not a live CD | 23:55 |
fsmithred | are you running the installer? | 23:55 |
fsmithred | did it ask you to create a user? | 23:56 |
Anonical_juju | it has installed already, I skipped user creation | 23:56 |
Anonical_juju | I think I somehow have no users at all | 23:56 |
daimon | did you set a password for root? | 23:56 |
Anonical_juju | nope | 23:56 |
daimon | yeah you did same as me | 23:56 |
daimon | and you are screwed :P | 23:56 |
fsmithred | lol, ok. | 23:56 |
fsmithred | you know how to boot with init=/bin/bash | 23:56 |
fsmithred | or... | 23:57 |
fsmithred | reboot the CD, go into rescue mode or whatever it's called | 23:57 |
Anonical_juju | there might be a boot into terminal option in grub, probably wants the password in there | 23:57 |
fsmithred | boot single, but it'll want a password | 23:57 |
Anonical_juju | hah power options are greyed out... hard booting | 23:58 |
fsmithred | in rescue mode you can open a shell in the installed system | 23:58 |
fsmithred | and then set the password | 23:58 |
daimon | but weigh this against just reinstalling ^ | 23:58 |
daimon | which takes 20 minutes | 23:58 |
Anonical_juju | it took me a while as it happens... using CD 1 & 3 | 23:59 |
Anonical_juju | I'm on recovery mode now | 23:59 |
daimon | same as any os, just install minimal do the rest later | 23:59 |
fsmithred | you have slow internet? | 23:59 |
Anonical_juju | well.. the WiFi card did not work until the OS was up and running | 23:59 |
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