| dinkalink | FOSS 4 LiFe, Blood In Blood Out | 00:00 |
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| onefang | A drive by WTF? | 00:01 |
| gnarface | he's testing the defenses | 00:22 |
| asdflkj_ | there was a nice thread on the FSF member forums about using sox to generate ambient background noise to play while working like https://gist.github.com/rsvp/1209835 | 00:24 |
| gnarface | sox is cool, it has a lot of overlapping functionality with ffmpeg | 00:26 |
| gnarface | you'd be surprised what you can get done with just bare alsa and a custom ~/.asoundrc if you don't need to deal with encoded audio though | 00:27 |
| dreamer | building ardour6.6 on devuan beowulf gcc8 keeps segfaulting about midway during the build | 01:26 |
| gnarface | dreamer: is that a cross-build? | 01:37 |
| gnarface | dreamer: i would try it in a ceres chroot, or at least with a different gcc version | 01:38 |
| dreamer | no, amd64 | 01:54 |
| dreamer | I restarted the machine and tried the build again | 01:54 |
| dreamer | now it's almost done -_- | 01:54 |
| dreamer | https://bpa.st/NBMJ6 | 01:55 |
| dreamer | that's what I had before | 01:55 |
| dreamer | it would continue couple steps in the build. then segfault again | 01:55 |
| gnarface | dreamer: i assume it's a compiler bug, but if you use paste.debian.net i'll actually look at it | 02:22 |
| gnarface | dreamer: i just brought up cross-building because i had problems cross-building in beowulf, too | 02:22 |
| tuxd3v | dreamer, try 'export CMAKE_BUILD_PARALLEL_LEVEL=1', before compiling.. | 02:42 |
| * Xenguy used to have some fond memories of compiling... | 02:49 | |
| Xenguy | When it works, it's pretty cool | 02:49 |
| Xenguy | Otherwise annoying : -) | 02:50 |
| tuxd3v | dreamer, also post the output in paste.debian.net, like gnarface said above.. | 02:51 |
| kama_ | Hello? | 03:21 |
| gnarface | if you have questions just ask, kama_ | 03:23 |
| gnarface | don't wait for permission, but try to be patient, the channel can be kinda slow | 03:23 |
| kama_ | Ah, thank you, gnarface. I do have a question... | 03:23 |
| sauron- | lol | 03:23 |
| orcus-de | :) | 03:23 |
| kama_ | I was wondering if it is possible to run Unreal Engine on devuan? | 03:24 |
| * orcus-de .. glad to see - it's the same here | 03:24 | |
| gnarface | kama_: shouldn't be a problem afaik... several games use it on Steam | 03:27 |
| kama_ | I'm not a big fan of systemd but I just haven't done anything about it even though I've been running Linux for years. There is nothing on my LAN that runs anything made by Microsoft. :-) | 03:28 |
| kama_ | ...or Apple. :-) | 03:29 |
| onefang | I have bad news for you, Microsoft contributes to Linux kernel. | 03:29 |
| kama_ | Yeah, I knew about that. What can you do, though? | 03:29 |
| gnarface | other than systemd, devuan seems to be functionally identical to debian for the purposes of game engines' requirements | 03:29 |
| kama_ | Embrace, extend, exterminate... | 03:30 |
| gnarface | all the packages are there, the repos are just named different | 03:30 |
| onefang | Most of our package mirrors even redirect to Debian package mirrors for most of the packages. | 03:30 |
| sauron- | the competition is over, microsoft and linux are a happy couple, got married too... | 03:31 |
| gnarface | i've noted that missing systemd can impact expected behavior by the Steam Controller, it's worth noting, but as far as i can tell none of the games care about the init system | 03:31 |
| onefang | Those that don't are already running Debian package mirrors anyway. | 03:31 |
| kama_ | Oh. I had the impression (from the package repositories page that they were no compatible. | 03:31 |
| MinceR | more like master and slave than happy couple | 03:31 |
| sauron- | 50 shadows of microsoft | 03:32 |
| MinceR | :> | 03:32 |
| kama_ | Unreal Engine isn't distributed as a package, though. You have to build it from source. | 03:32 |
| onefang | Mixing Devuan and Debian package repos in your sources list is incompatible, and not needed. The merging is done behind the scenes on the Devuan package mirrors. | 03:32 |
| kama_ | Ah, I see, onefang. | 03:33 |
| kama_ | But I could, for instance, install a .deb from some random web site? | 03:33 |
| * numzob winces | 03:34 | |
| onefang | So apt asks a Devuan mirror for a package that is identical to the Debian version, the Devuan mirror redirects apt to Debian to get it. | 03:34 |
| onefang | All things are possible, if it breaks your OS, you get to keep the pieces. | 03:35 |
| kama_ | Is it more likely to break my OS than if I were installing it on a Debian-based distro? I suppose that's what I'm really wanting to know. | 03:36 |
| kama_ | I couldn't really find a lot of information on devuan.org about what differences there are between Debian and Devuan aside from the attractive prospect of not using systemd. | 03:37 |
| fluffywolf | devuan is a debian-based distro. heh. | 03:38 |
| onefang | That's basically it. The packages we do differently are mostly to remove systemd from them. | 03:38 |
| kama_ | Oh, that sounds like exactly what I want in my life! (I'm not a big fan of the direction Ubuntu seems to be heading: Trying to appeal to the corporate desktop.) | 03:39 |
| kama_ | I was using Linux Mint when the change to systemd happened. I really just stumbled across the Devuan page a little while ago. I know... I could have looked on DistroWatch. | 03:43 |
| fsmithred | I think debian and devuan have about equal risk of being trashed by third-party software | 03:43 |
| sauron- | kama_ same here!!! i was using linux mint 17.3, then changed to devuan. | 03:44 |
| kama_ | I'm happy to say that I've never installed anything (other than the AMD drivers a few years back) that borked my OS. | 03:44 |
| kama_ | I think I started on Mint 10, sauron. :-) I've still got a couple of machines on 17.3. They're going to go away soon, though. | 03:45 |
| kama_ | I still have the .iso for the first Mint I DL'd and installed somewhere around here. | 03:46 |
| kama_ | I was thinking of going with FreeBSD for a while. Except that I do play a game occaisionally. I'm not sure Warzone and FreeCiv are available for FreeBSD. | 03:48 |
| kama_ | Anyway... Thank you for your assistance and answers. I have to get back to work, though. | 03:50 |
| daimon | hey all I have a service failing to start but when I run the command related to the daemon directly it works fine 'smbd' | 10:23 |
| daimon | its log files contain nothing of note, is there more logs somewhere (I checked /var/log/samba/*) | 10:23 |
| xinomilo | daemon.log ? | 10:25 |
| gnarface | i'm pretty sure smbd is deprectaed | 10:25 |
| gnarface | you want to start cifs now | 10:25 |
| gnarface | which should still include reverse-compatibility support | 10:25 |
| daimon | xinomilo, nothing of note (incase nothing at all) is coming up in daemon.log | 10:26 |
| daimon | gnarface, cifs does not appear to be installed and this is a brand new install of samba as of yesterday so I can't see it would be deprecated | 10:27 |
| gnarface | you're sure you don't have a /etc/init.d/cifs file? you could be missing a package... | 10:27 |
| daimon | https://dpaste.org/wknY | 10:28 |
| daimon | bash: /etc/init.d/cifs: No such file or directory | 10:28 |
| daimon | the dpaste is more showing, but it shows up on the lan after running smbd directly | 10:29 |
| daimon | I guess I Could just run nmbd/smbd in supervisord or so | 10:30 |
| daimon | is there anyway to find out the exact command 'service samba-ad-dc start' is actually trying to execute? | 10:30 |
| daimon | it does not appear to be logged anywhere or why its failing anywhere | 10:31 |
| gnarface | it would run /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc start | 10:31 |
| gnarface | which would probably fail because it doesn't exist | 10:31 |
| daimon | it does exist and but returns immediatly | 10:31 |
| daimon | and does not start smbd | 10:32 |
| gnarface | if you use paste.debian.net i'll look at your paste but i don't expect it to tell me anything | 10:32 |
| gnarface | look for a file in /etc/defaults/ related to this | 10:32 |
| daimon | bash: cd: /etc/defaults/: No such file or directory | 10:32 |
| gnarface | but i'm pretty sure you're missing a cifs init script | 10:32 |
| gnarface | sorry, /etc/default/ i mean | 10:32 |
| daimon | right what in there gives me the precise command its using though | 10:33 |
| daimon | without having to read through bash/sh scripts | 10:33 |
| koollman | I'm pretty sure there is no script called cifs, smbd is the main samba daemon, the name is normal | 10:33 |
| gnarface | i was under the impression it's 100% bash scripts | 10:34 |
| daimon | there also appears to be nothing related to samba or cifs in /etc/default | 10:34 |
| daimon | koollman, me too, I thoguht cifs was just the network protocol | 10:34 |
| gnarface | well there was definitely a name change at some point, but maybe they changed it back since then | 10:35 |
| gnarface | i haven't used it in years | 10:35 |
| daimon | ok how would I find the exact exec command: '/etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc start' | 10:35 |
| daimon | is attempting to run, it must be trying to start nmbd smbd and possible winbindd but with what arguments | 10:35 |
| gnarface | daimon, it's a text file | 10:36 |
| gnarface | you open it and read it | 10:36 |
| gnarface | with a text editor | 10:36 |
| daimon | its actually a shell script | 10:36 |
| gnarface | that's a type of text file | 10:36 |
| daimon | everything is a type of text file by that logic :P | 10:37 |
| gnarface | false | 10:37 |
| gnarface | this one is entirely made up of human readable characters | 10:37 |
| gnarface | unlike a machine-generated binary meant only to be read by a machine | 10:37 |
| gnarface | this one can be read by you | 10:37 |
| daimon | but not understood as I have no idea how the rc system works in devuan | 10:37 |
| daimon | is there no way to simply get it to output the end eval it is attempting | 10:38 |
| gnarface | you're suggesting that stack tracing bash is easier for you than opening the script in a text file and reading it? | 10:38 |
| gnarface | the program you want is called gdb | 10:38 |
| daimon | I am looking at it right now I see no calls to smbd or nmbd though | 10:39 |
| daimon | and it appears to be logging nowhere | 10:39 |
| gnarface | i still question whether it's the right script in the first place | 10:39 |
| daimon | the only call I can see is: start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/samba | 10:40 |
| gnarface | mystery solved! | 10:40 |
| gnarface | hooraay! | 10:40 |
| daimon | which just returns and executes nothing when done on console | 10:40 |
| daimon | and also appears to log nowhere | 10:40 |
| gnarface | well, that is strongly implied by the "--quiet" option | 10:41 |
| gnarface | but i don't actually use this software anymore, so i admit it's merely an educated guess | 10:41 |
| daimon | yes removing the --quiet option makes no difference it still simply returns nothing | 10:41 |
| gnarface | maybe remove --oknodo too | 10:42 |
| daimon | I simply called /usr/sbin/samba with no args | 10:42 |
| daimon | that also returns nothing | 10:42 |
| gnarface | that is something daemons typically do | 10:42 |
| daimon | and also did not execute nmbd or smbd | 10:43 |
| daimon | accroding to ps | 10:43 |
| gnarface | i seriously think they're deprecated, like i said | 10:43 |
| gnarface | they had to rename smbd to cifs for legal reasons or something like that | 10:43 |
| daimon | also no binary named cifs or samba exists and port 445 udp has not been opened | 10:44 |
| daimon | infact the length of the process tree ps aux | wc -l | 10:44 |
| daimon | has no changed what so ever | 10:44 |
| gnarface | i do recall vaguely that you're supposed to make a change to the samba config file too, but it wouldn't be different than in debian | 10:44 |
| gnarface | like i said, it's been years... | 10:44 |
| daimon | yes I believe you are actually wrong in this case | 10:45 |
| daimon | simply because running nmbd / smbd does create a samba instance and does create a process and also writes log entries | 10:45 |
| gnarface | anyway make sure you have rsyslogd installed just in case that's all that's missing | 10:45 |
| gnarface | i think you must be missing some other package though | 10:45 |
| daimon | root 2093 0.0 0.0 224596 1864 ? Ssl Feb24 0:00 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd | 10:45 |
| daimon | indeed it is installed and running | 10:45 |
| gnarface | /var/log/daemon.log would be the default location for deamon logs unless they have their own | 10:46 |
| gnarface | hmmm, i think the cifs kernel module didn't auto-load for me either | 10:47 |
| daimon | they do hajve their own /var/log/samba but no log file modification date changes after attempting to run 'service samba-ac-dc start' | 10:47 |
| gnarface | make sure that's loaded | 10:47 |
| daimon | wait why would I load the cifs kernel module I am not trying to mount netbios shares | 10:47 |
| gnarface | i think you'd need it with or without netbios for connecting to any version of windows after 8 or maybe vista | 10:48 |
| daimon | I think I will just run smbd/nmbd directly in daemon, then all the windows 10 and so machine can connect as expected | 10:49 |
| gnarface | should work i think it'll just basically look like windows 98 to them | 10:49 |
| gnarface | i just would expect that to be less well supported | 10:50 |
| daimon | not quite, windows 98 etc used an old version of netbios windows 10+ do not support | 10:50 |
| gnarface | but again i did expect this to have more components ... | 10:50 |
| gnarface | no i mean on the linux side i'd expect this to be less well supported usage | 10:50 |
| gnarface | you were supposed to have init scripts | 10:50 |
| daimon | I do have not scripts | 10:50 |
| daimon | I do have scripts * | 10:50 |
| gnarface | debian has been killing them off lately | 10:51 |
| daimon | just not for 'cifs' as cifs is a protocol | 10:51 |
| daimon | /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc would be an appropriate name | 10:51 |
| daimon | as that infers samba4 | 10:51 |
| gnarface | well, does it do anything different if the cifs module is loaded? | 10:52 |
| daimon | no | 10:52 |
| daimon | simply returns | 10:52 |
| gnarface | strange | 10:52 |
| gnarface | nothing in the dmesg output or syslog file even? | 10:53 |
| daimon | no | 10:53 |
| daimon | or daemon.log or /var/log/samba/* | 10:53 |
| daimon | or /var/log/messages | 10:53 |
| gnarface | which installer image was this? | 10:53 |
| daimon | for the base distribution or for samba | 10:54 |
| daimon | samba/stable-security,now 2:4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u1 amd64 [installed] | 10:54 |
| gnarface | no i meant which devaun image | 10:54 |
| daimon | beowolf 3.0.1 | 10:54 |
| gnarface | netinstall? | 10:55 |
| gnarface | server.iso? | 10:55 |
| daimon | netinstall | 10:55 |
| gnarface | i'd check the documentation to see if there's a way to enable verbose debugging, and then i'd add that flag to the command-line flags in the init script as a test | 10:56 |
| daimon | there is, it makes no difference | 10:56 |
| daimon | unless I do it via smbd directly -d=9 | 10:56 |
| gnarface | well that definitely points at a tertiary issue | 10:56 |
| xinomilo | smb.conf ? | 10:57 |
| xinomilo | have an old debian8/sysvinit server running fine with samba 4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u11 | 10:57 |
| daimon | smb.conf is what both smbd and nmbd read | 10:57 |
| daimon | xinomilo, if you do ps aux | grep smbd on that system | 10:58 |
| daimon | does it happen to be running | 10:58 |
| xinomilo | daemons running there : smbd + nmbd | 10:58 |
| daimon | also does your init script happen to /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc | 10:58 |
| daimon | to be * | 10:58 |
| xinomilo | the /etc/init.d/samba script : case $1 in | 11:01 |
| xinomilo | start) | 11:01 |
| xinomilo | /etc/init.d/nmbd start | 11:01 |
| xinomilo | /etc/init.d/smbd start | 11:01 |
| xinomilo | /etc/init.d/samba-ad-dc start | 11:01 |
| xinomilo | no samba-ad-dc running though | 11:01 |
| xinomilo | maybe it's normal that way | 11:01 |
| daimon | root 19653 0.0 0.1 48416 15496 ? Ss 09:59 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D | 11:01 |
| daimon | got it | 11:01 |
| daimon | if I service start smbd / nmbd all is well | 11:01 |
| daimon | but samba-ad-dc appears to do nothing | 11:01 |
| daimon | ahh smbd and nmbd are added to rc.d as autostart | 11:02 |
| daimon | cool so maybe nothing was wrong at all I was just using the wrong init script :) | 11:02 |
| daimon | I bet samba-ac-cd is for winbindd | 11:02 |
| xinomilo | samba-ac-dc : if [ "$SERVER_ROLE" != "active directory domain controller" ]; then | 11:04 |
| xinomilo | exit 0 | 11:04 |
| daimon | ah ha | 11:04 |
| xinomilo | only applicable to active directory | 11:04 |
| xinomilo | not my case | 11:04 |
| daimon | mine neither I am kind of used to freebsd that has 'samba' as a meta for smbd/nmbd/winbindd | 11:05 |
| daimon | so I assumed on debuan it would be samba-ac-dc | 11:05 |
| daimon | oversight on my part :) | 11:05 |
| xinomilo | so you should only have smbd and nmbd | 11:05 |
| xinomilo | running | 11:05 |
| daimon | yep | 11:05 |
| daimon | and those works perfect | 11:05 |
| daimon | when I use init.d/smbd,nmbd they start up correctly | 11:05 |
| xinomilo | iirc, you only need to run /etc/init.d/samba start | 11:06 |
| xinomilo | stop/start to be sure | 11:06 |
| daimon | root@maizzie:/etc/init.d# ls | grep sam | 11:06 |
| daimon | samba-ad-dc | 11:06 |
| daimon | right but that does not exist on mine just smbd/nmbd/samba-ad-dc | 11:06 |
| daimon | but it seems fine as smbd/nmbd is all it needs | 11:06 |
| daimon | and got it perfect :) https://i.itsosticky.com/6muabb.png | 11:11 |
| ribcage | after running for 100 days on buster, a program misbehaved and became zombie, systemd wouldnt even let me shutdown or reboot. Then I lost my SSH console and had no access anymore since it's headless, not even a gpu. After issuing shutdown, reboot, systemctl --force shutdown and pressing the physical button, as I was coming back with a keyboard for trying REISUB or ctrl+alt+delete, it finally powered down, | 12:24 |
| ribcage | after like half an hour of doing hell knows what... | 12:24 |
| ribcage | Lesson #1: I need a serial console for such cases. Lesson #2 gotta migrate to devuan :D | 12:25 |
| djph | Lesson #0: ugh, systemd. | 12:38 |
| scoofy | the wonders of doing everything in PID 1 | 12:39 |
| DHE | pid 1 is too important a job to be dependent on dbus and pam and journald and specific kernel build options and specific mount options and [...] | 12:42 |
| scoofy | idelly, PID 1 should do nothing, just fork other processes.... | 12:42 |
| djph | just wait for systemd-kerneld | 12:43 |
| DHE | parsing a config file to see what programs it should run first is kinda my limit... | 12:43 |
| scoofy | systemd is the opposite philosophy - it should do everything, including serving http reqeuests etc | 12:43 |
| djph | ugh, this one box is still on oldstable | 12:43 |
| DHE | but I do have to say, openrc really impressed me on gentoo back in like 2008 | 12:43 |
| djph | I need a new computer :( this one screams when it's trying to run cura :( | 12:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | maybe it just needs a clean out | 15:05 |
| djph | sixwheeledbeast: it's some either late 200x or at the very newest 2012 model PC ... cleaning it out isn't gonna help the anemic processor :) | 15:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | My machine is pretty old maybe 8y, but a good dust blow out and new thermal paste dropped the temps. | 15:10 |
| DHE | I mean 2012 model PC is like a 2nd or 3rd gen core i3/i5/i7 CPU? Unless you've gone Atom or something but that's your own fault... | 15:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it was fairly clean inside but amazing what dust sticks to the heatsink surfaces | 15:12 |
| djph | DHE: nah, this is some AMD I forget what | 15:22 |
| djph | yeah, it's definitely clean ... just chokes on the heavy processing for slicing | 15:22 |
| djph | I mean, it eventually gets the slice done; but :) | 15:22 |
| numzob | it slices, it dices! (sorry, i'll stop now) | 15:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | phenom if that age | 15:23 |
| djph | sounds about right | 15:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well I would expect at least K10 | 15:25 |
| djph | yeah, a phenom II N930 | 15:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | i can't imagine many k8's will be running out there | 15:26 |
| djph | It certainly does all my day-to-day "simple" stuff - IRC, TeX, programming, etc. Just falls over with heavy lifting | 15:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yer. i was given a phenom system it's currently running a game server but don't expect it to do much else or load avg goes through the roof and it overheats. | 15:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you've certainly had it's best years anyway | 15:29 |
| djph | yep. I find it to be quite the useful system; but ... yeah, shows its age when it comes to "modern" things. | 15:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | they all do, everything with a GUI just gets so heavy now | 15:30 |
| djph | It'll probably end up being my workbench "where'd that datasheet go" machine :) | 15:30 |
| DHE | djph: ah... yes, in 2012 AMD was not know for performance. | 15:38 |
| djph | Yep, were still decent CPUs though :) | 15:38 |
| dreamer | tuxd3v, gnarface: after a reboot I tried the build again. was fine. I dunno what happened -_- | 15:57 |
| dreamer | I'm suspecting the disk has issues | 15:57 |
| dreamer | or this i5 we got from the trash | 15:58 |
| dreamer | maybe I'll do a memtest sometime | 15:58 |
| * dreamer gotta catch a bus now | 15:58 | |
| james1138 | Hello all. I have been working a lot - so I have not had a chance to check earlier. However, I am getting time-out error trying to access the Devuan forum. I tried 3 different browers (Vivaldi, Chrome & Fennec/Firefox) as well as tried from laptop and Android phone - and still cannot bring up the forum. Has something changed?? I can see maybe 1 or | 19:37 |
| james1138 | 2 browsers not working - but three? I can also see either laptop or smartphone not getting to forum - but both? | 19:37 |
| lkjasdf | dev1galaxy.org works fine for me in Palemoon | 19:39 |
| james1138 | Humm... | 19:43 |
| james1138 | Lkjasdf - have you tried using Chrome or Firefox? Just wondering if it me? | 19:44 |
| lkjasdf | no | 19:45 |
| numzob | james1138: are you inadvertenty blocking a domain that is needed? | 19:45 |
| numzob | that would affect all browsers | 19:45 |
| daimon | hey all can anyone help with mdadm and raid creation: https://dpaste.org/p7C3 apparently 'error 524' ? | 19:45 |
| lkjasdf | I don't have FF and I only have chrome on a school proxy that blocks the forum | 19:45 |
| daimon | ah got it | 19:46 |
| james1138 | I shall check for domain blocks - but that should not be phone and laptop. | 19:46 |
| Beer | james1138 Any DNS client utility available on your platform? dig? nslookup? Which OS are you using? | 19:49 |
| james1138 | Devuan Beowulf | 19:50 |
| lkjasdf | try lynx? | 19:50 |
| Beer | install the dnsutils package | 19:52 |
| Beer | then try dig on the domain of the forums | 19:52 |
| james1138 | Will try that at lunch break | 19:52 |
| xinomilo | try tor browser | 19:53 |
| Beer | dig won't take into account you local hosts file, if you ever played with that? | 19:53 |
| Beer | It will howver tell you how the domain is resolved, by default with IPv4 | 19:54 |
| Beer | see if there is a problem there | 19:54 |
| Beer | Check you get a 54.36.142.184 A record | 19:54 |
| Beer | you could also make a request with cURL to mimic what a browser would do | 19:55 |
| xinomilo | tor browser uses tor-resolve, so you can actually check if it's a problem with your dns, isp given ip address or something else.. | 19:55 |
| Beer | if you get anything else than a 2xx/3xx HTTP status code, it will indicate a problem | 19:55 |
| james1138 | I am back. Strange - it ended up that I had to use a older version of Vivaldi browser to access Devuan Forum. | 21:37 |
| DashiePie_ | I guess I wasn't the only one | 21:40 |
| numzob | what the hell? | 21:43 |
| tuxd3v | What hapenned? | 21:50 |
| tuxd3v | from time to time, there are a purge | 21:51 |
| tuxd3v | :) | 21:51 |
| MinceR | maybe the kiddies decided that spamming users on freenode isn't getting them the results they wanted | 21:57 |
| tuxd3v | I don't know but a lot of people was disconected() | 21:58 |
| onefang | Freenode is made from several servers, perhaps one of them crashed? | 22:00 |
| tuxd3v | it could be, and the peol,e hanging there got disconected.. | 22:00 |
| daimon | hey all got a bit of a weird problem ... when my system starts, it tries to start plex before the nfs mounts plex requires actually mount, how would I prevent this? | 22:00 |
| daimon | or delay plex | 22:00 |
| tuxd3v | what is plex | 22:01 |
| tuxd3v | ? | 22:01 |
| daimon | mind you the nfs mounts have not actually connected either, not sure why all I had to do was type 'mount /mnt/nas_volume1' and it worked straight away | 22:01 |
| daimon | its a server that plays video across your lan using DLNA | 22:01 |
| daimon | so smart tv's etc can watch | 22:01 |
| tuxd3v | so plex require _netdev in the mount options? | 22:02 |
| daimon | but anyhow ... my system is perfect except plex not starting automatically and my nfs mounts not mounting automatically | 22:02 |
| daimon | not sure why for either | 22:02 |
| daimon | as the nfs mounts are in fstab and the moment I login all they require is: 'mount /mnt/nas_volume1' and bang they work | 22:03 |
| daimon | the moment I do that: service plexmediaserver start, and plex works too | 22:03 |
| daimon | plex has no mount options | 22:03 |
| daimon | its a software daemon | 22:03 |
| daimon | I would suspect the nfs issue is creating the plex issue | 22:03 |
| tuxd3v | so your deamon requires network, and also nfs mounts working | 22:04 |
| daimon | I have two nfs mounts here is one: | 22:04 |
| daimon | nas:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nas_volume1 nfs defaults 0 0 | 22:04 |
| daimon | yes the daemon does | 22:04 |
| tuxd3v | nas:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nas_volume1 _netdev,nfs | 22:04 |
| daimon | ah | 22:04 |
| tuxd3v | add like this | 22:04 |
| daimon | I assume that means it is attempted after net_ready | 22:05 |
| tuxd3v | correct | 22:05 |
| daimon | cool I imagine that will be all I need I will give that system a reboot in a little while see if it solves if it resolves the issue :) if plex still does not come up I will adjust its init script to delay it a while | 22:06 |
| tuxd3v | this is what I have : | 22:09 |
| tuxd3v | nfs _netdev,nfsvers=3,proto=tcp,hard,intr,rw,local_lock=all,noexec,nosuid,rsize=16384,wsize=16384 0 0 | 22:09 |
| daimon | that's quite the option set | 22:10 |
| tuxd3v | this ones you could have | 22:10 |
| tuxd3v | easilly | 22:10 |
| tuxd3v | _netdev,nfsvers=3,proto=tcp | 22:10 |
| tuxd3v | I have Helios4 system | 22:11 |
| tuxd3v | I didn't brought the Helios64 because memory is not ECC | 22:11 |
| daimon | suprising you would think later models of the same system range would have the same memory capab | 22:12 |
| tuxd3v | I was expecting helios64 to have ECC memory but they dropped the option, at least its the Idea I get.. | 22:14 |
| tuxd3v | I was thinking in Aquiring it, but without ECC its a no go | 22:14 |
| gnarface | dreamer: if you're running without swap, just running out of ram after your nvidia drivers leaked xorg memory could have caused it, i think. or if you're running short on drive space, rebooting might have flushed /tmp or something... | 22:27 |
| gnarface | dreamer: anyway, bad drive or ram is possible too, but i'd still consider trying it with one of the adjacent gcc versions | 22:31 |
| daimon | hey all I cannot seem to use my sound card on a modern install of xfce | 23:58 |
| daimon | when I click the pulseaudio volume control it sits saying '... connecting to pulse audio service' | 23:58 |
| daimon | but never does | 23:58 |
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