| g0zzy | Is it known that speedtest-cli is broken? | 00:10 |
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| g0zzy | (in ascii) | 00:12 |
| fsmithred | g0zzy, it's known. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=986637 | 00:42 |
| fsmithred | I didn't know that package existed. Now I want to use it. | 00:42 |
| g0zzy | Hehe | 01:03 |
| g0zzy | Thanks | 01:03 |
| g0zzy | Actually i used up until quite recently an exe-compiled version of it on the same OS and it worked. That fails too | 01:04 |
| g0zzy | Got speedtest.py from Git and copied it over the existing one after backup. All fine now. That will do it for you fsmithred | 01:15 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 01:15 |
| fsmithred | just that one script? | 01:15 |
| g0zzy | Yes | 01:15 |
| fsmithred | salsa or github? | 01:16 |
| g0zzy | I mean i only tried the default invocation and an invocation with --no-upload | 01:16 |
| g0zzy | Github | 01:16 |
| g0zzy | https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/ | 01:17 |
| fsmithred | oh, I just found it on salsa.debian.org. It was updated 10 hours ago | 01:17 |
| g0zzy | Right | 01:18 |
| g0zzy | I think i originally compiled an executable as an earlier version didn't have the --no-upload option and i didn't want to mess with packages | 01:19 |
| fsmithred | it's working now, thanks. :) | 01:20 |
| g0zzy | Great. Mighty useful for checking boxes over ssh | 01:20 |
| fsmithred | and no javascript | 01:21 |
| g0zzy | Yes | 01:21 |
| g0zzy | Wait a minute though - i've just started to confuse myself (it's late). I AM checking the Internet connection speed of the remote box and not my own (ssh client) when i do that am i not? | 01:23 |
| fsmithred | good question | 01:23 |
| fsmithred | probably testing the remote | 01:23 |
| g0zzy | Got to be the remote surely as the executable is running there? | 01:24 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 01:24 |
| g0zzy | I'd better say goodnight ;) | 01:24 |
| fsmithred | that's the ip that's contacting speedtest.net | 01:24 |
| g0zzy | Yes | 01:24 |
| fsmithred | do one on the other side of the planet and see which host you get sent to | 01:24 |
| fsmithred | I get one that's very close to me | 01:25 |
| g0zzy | That's true. Although often my remote boxes are in the same town. Actually they usually are | 01:25 |
| g0zzy | Cheers! | 01:26 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Hello, I am getting the error # usermod -U canine | 02:51 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | usermod: unlocking the user's password would result in a passwordless account. | 02:51 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | You should set a password with usermod -p to unlock this user's password. | 02:51 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | It's returning a zero exit code which should by all means indicate it should be working, but /etc/shadow remains a ! Indicating account is still locked | 02:51 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Is this a bug? | 02:51 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | If so, how do I force usermod to enable the account anyways and return a nonzero exit status if it doesn't actually do what it's told? | 02:52 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Maybe I should submit a patch? | 02:52 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | Unlock a user's password. This removes the '!' in front of the encrypted password. You can't use this option with -p or -L. | 02:53 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I'm running beowolf | 02:53 |
| search_social | hi CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | 03:17 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | hello search_social | 03:17 |
| search_social | i just typed usermod -p j canine | 03:18 |
| search_social | and then usermod -U canine | 03:18 |
| search_social | and it worked | 03:19 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I don't want to set a password though | 03:20 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I don't use passwords to authenticate to the server, i use public keypairs | 03:21 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | It says should not must | 03:21 |
| search_social | well you can use passwd -d canine to make the password the empty password | 03:21 |
| search_social | but i thought if you have a correct keypair then ssh doesn't ask you for a password anyway | 03:22 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I think it's warning me because of some potential security thing, but I have PasswordAuthentication no and PermitEmptyPasswords no set in my sshd_config | 03:23 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | So | 03:23 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | I don't think it's a security issue having passwordless accounts | 03:23 |
| CAPTCHA_REQUIRED | In Devuan is it absolutely required that system accounts have a password set, even if your not using them? | 03:24 |
| fsmithred | should be the same as debian | 03:25 |
| search_social | CAPTCHA_REQUIRED: well you can say usermod -L canine to disable logging in with a password at all | 03:56 |
| divansantana | hi all. Having trouble installing ksirk on beowulf. Is this a known issue or is my local system a bit poked? | 09:44 |
| divansantana | http://paste.debian.net/1193453 | 09:45 |
| ShorTie | you did do a apt update/upgrade ?? | 09:51 |
| divansantana | ShorTie: yes I have. | 10:05 |
| rm | divansantana, try aptitude instead of apt-get | 10:16 |
| rm | it might offer some solutions to this | 10:16 |
| divansantana | rm: that fixed it! Thanks a lot. | 10:26 |
| gour | i've the following: LANG=hr_HR.UTF-8, but 'date' cmd is returning time as BST and not CEST? any hint? | 13:52 |
| gnarface | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata | 13:53 |
| gour | gnarface: thanks a lot! never had to use it on Debian probably due to setting it correctly while installing... | 13:58 |
| gnarface | no problem | 14:04 |
| gour | there is probably some work required to provide all the runit scripts for all the services, but I'm very pleased with Devuan!! | 14:07 |
| gour | any recommendation for cron/ntp packages (desktop machine, ceres/runit)? | 14:08 |
| fsmithred | gour, runit activity here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716 | 14:09 |
| fsmithred | there are runscripts for cron and anacron | 14:10 |
| fsmithred | antix has runscripts for ntp, debian for openntpd | 14:11 |
| gour | i have adsl connection, but not online 24/7, is cron ok? what about crony? | 14:13 |
| fsmithred | cron works. I don't see crony. | 14:14 |
| gour | i meant chrony | 14:14 |
| fsmithred | nope | 14:14 |
| fsmithred | there are links in that forum thread to antix and debian runscripts | 14:15 |
| gour | ok, will check it out | 14:15 |
| fsmithred | I've been playing with it in a VM, gradually replacing init scripts with runscripts. | 14:15 |
| fsmithred | and made a few refracta-chimaera-runit isos, but I haven't uploaded any | 14:16 |
| gour | https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/srcpkgs/chrony/files/chronyd/run | 14:20 |
| gour | how usable are voidlinux scripts for devuan? | 14:20 |
| gour | (in general) | 14:21 |
| fsmithred | you might need to modify that | 14:22 |
| fsmithred | it looks like they included the logging in the runscript, and that's different | 14:22 |
| fsmithred | read the thread. We had to make a few mods even on the debian scripts. | 14:23 |
| fsmithred | and the maintainer has posted a few times | 14:23 |
| gour | ok | 14:25 |
| Ankokukishi | im trying to use an external bd player to play a blu ray in refracta but im missing some dependencies to allow me to watch in vlc | 15:00 |
| Ankokukishi | what files will i need to install for the bds to be playable? | 15:00 |
| crashoverride | Ankokukishi: do you have libbluray installed? | 15:02 |
| Ankokukishi | yeah | 15:02 |
| Ankokukishi | oh wait | 15:03 |
| Ankokukishi | says it couldnt find libbluray | 15:03 |
| fsmithred | Ankokukishi, did you add contrib and non-free to sources.list? You might need that. | 15:04 |
| Ankokukishi | no i didnt, didnt think id need to | 15:04 |
| fsmithred | what's the correct name for libbluray | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | ? | 15:05 |
| Ankokukishi | i just did an apt search and there are a few | 15:05 |
| gnarface | libbluray2 | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it's in main | 15:05 |
| gnarface | you also need libdvdnav and libdvdcss still | 15:05 |
| Ankokukishi | i have the dvd ones | 15:05 |
| Ankokukishi | libbluray-bin? | 15:06 |
| crashoverride | Ankokukishi: libbluray2 | 15:06 |
| gnarface | -bin says it's tools | 15:06 |
| Ankokukishi | i have that installed already | 15:06 |
| Ankokukishi | and libbluray-bdj | 15:07 |
| fsmithred | you'll get that one automatically | 15:07 |
| fsmithred | no you own't | 15:07 |
| fsmithred | wont' | 15:07 |
| gnarface | you also need to add yourself to the cdrom group | 15:08 |
| gnarface | or you won't be able to access the drive | 15:08 |
| fsmithred | should already be in it | 15:08 |
| Ankokukishi | How to Play Blu-ray Using VLC on Linux | 15:09 |
| Ankokukishi | Step 1: Firstly, make a folder named aacs and download the Keys database with the codes: | 15:09 |
| Ankokukishi | cd ~/ | 15:09 |
| Ankokukishi | mkdir -p ~/.config/aacs/ | 15:09 |
| Ankokukishi | cd ~/.config/aacs/ && wget http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/files/KEYDB.cfg | 15:09 |
| Ankokukishi | should i do this too>? | 15:09 |
| gnarface | woah woah no | 15:10 |
| gnarface | that should not be necessary i don't think... | 15:10 |
| Ankokukishi | i havent done that yet | 15:10 |
| Ankokukishi | dont worry | 15:10 |
| ham5urg | Is it possible for rsync to skip any subfolder(s) with a given name? Like "sync all but skip any subdirectory with dirA and dirB". | 15:15 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 15:16 |
| fsmithred | you can use globbing in the excludes | 15:16 |
| fsmithred | and you can mix include/exclude, but I've always avoided that. | 15:16 |
| crashoverride | ham5urg: it's in the man | 15:17 |
| crashoverride | ham5urg: search for 'filter' | 15:17 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah, that too | 15:17 |
| crashoverride | tl;dr: --filter='exclude ...' | 15:18 |
| crashoverride | also search for 'FILTER RULES' | 15:18 |
| crashoverride | (that's a section) | 15:18 |
| ham5urg | ahh, thank you very much guys, it was the wrong flag I searched for. | 15:18 |
| crashoverride | rsync is complex. | 15:19 |
| crashoverride | there are too many flags. | 15:19 |
| crashoverride | :D | 15:19 |
| fsmithred | --filter='P lost+found' --filter='H lost+found' | 15:20 |
| crashoverride | fsmithred: pound and hit? | 15:20 |
| crashoverride | ah no, protect and hide. | 15:20 |
| fsmithred | lol | 15:20 |
| crashoverride | yeah I tried :P | 15:20 |
| fsmithred | yeah, don't copy, don't delete | 15:21 |
| crashoverride | nice. | 15:21 |
| crashoverride | kinda sounds like the motto of the RIAA tho. | 15:21 |
| fsmithred | which? Pound and Hit? | 15:22 |
| crashoverride | no, "don't copy, don't delete" | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | "Let us do the deleting for you." | 15:22 |
| crashoverride | the former is more adequate for portland police. | 15:22 |
| crashoverride | fsmithred: indeed. | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | so... | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | there's a reason why you shouldn't mess with lost+found but I don't remember what that is | 15:23 |
| crashoverride | probably because there could be stuff in there that you care about, without yet knowing about it? | 15:24 |
| fsmithred | possibly | 15:25 |
| crashoverride | I sometimes delete those folders when they are created, at fs creation | 15:27 |
| crashoverride | and I've never had a single problem to report. | 15:27 |
| crashoverride | but also, I might just have been lucky. | 15:27 |
| fsmithred | same here | 15:28 |
| fsmithred | that filter sample I posted is from refractainstaller. It was added some time after people started using the installer, and I don't recall anyone reporting any problems. | 15:34 |
| fsmithred | 2014, so about 3 years of use before that. | 15:36 |
| Ankokukishi | i figured out the problem with the bd i was trying to use a minute ago, its from 2016, when the encoding changed | 15:41 |
| Ankokukishi | so it didnt work | 15:41 |
| Ankokukishi | tried it with older ones and it worked fine | 15:42 |
| Ankokukishi | thanks for your help guys | 15:42 |
| APic | Yo. Can i just dd https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/installer-iso/devuan_beowulf_3.1.1_amd64_netinstall.iso to my USB Stick or is that Image just for Optical Drives and i need to prepare my Stick otherwise? | 16:07 |
| Wonka | APic: I think you can. | 16:08 |
| APic | ktnx! | 16:09 |
| Wonka | https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/beowulf/install-devuan says "All Devuan ISO images are hybrid ISOs and may be written to a USB drive using dd." | 16:19 |
| APic | o/ | 16:41 |
| mason | o/ | 16:43 |
| crashoverride | hybrid ISOs are awesome. | 16:50 |
| crashoverride | I wish that was the only format of images ever. | 16:50 |
| APic | eWorks | 16:53 |
| APic | -e | 16:53 |
| GyrosGeier | one day I will add Amiga Fast File System support to hybrid ISOs | 17:21 |
| zeroability[m] | I migrated my server to devuan from buster and it looks like the only thing that broke was jellyfin. It appears to be a permissions issue. Anyone else experience that behavior? | 18:56 |
| lts- | zeroability[m]: jellyfin works fine for me | 19:04 |
| lts- | zeroability[m]: but now that I think of it, the /etc/init.d/jellyfin was broken | 19:05 |
| zeroability[m] | I have seen that, also. | 19:05 |
| lts- | zeroability[m]: I edited /etc/init.d/jellyfin and /etc/default/jellyfin, and they work fine for me like this: https://dpaste.com/2NHRP5MWN | 19:07 |
| lts- | Diff to yours and check is something different | 19:08 |
| lts- | Line 71 is missing # in the beginning, sorry | 19:10 |
| zeroability[m] | I will check that. I purged it and the jellyfin user so it stopped making the user on install. | 19:12 |
| zeroability[m] | The only difference was the --service arg and that didn't help. | 19:22 |
| lts- | Check jellyfin is in video group, otherwise try running the commands run by /etc/init.d/jellyfin manually and see for output, strace if necessary. You'll find it. | 19:37 |
| zeroability[m] | I can run it with sudo specifying the web component path and it works as expected. | 19:41 |
| systemdlete2 | My logwatch report is saying "unable to dlopen(pam_elogind.so): /lib/security/pam_elogind.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 20:28 |
| systemdlete2 | searching a bit, it seems this is related to sddm. Most hits are indicating this is an sddm-related issue. | 20:29 |
| systemdlete2 | The only question I have is, does this mean I must install sddm? I run slim, not sddm. | 20:29 |
| systemdlete2 | (xfce is my desktop) | 20:30 |
| systemdlete2 | This is the first time I've seen this error in at least months or so. | 20:30 |
| user____ | pam_eolgind.so is systemd related | 20:31 |
| user____ | pam_elogind.so | 20:31 |
| systemdlete2 | yep | 20:33 |
| systemdlete2 | I know | 20:33 |
| user____ | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2282 the list of packages to install may be a hint? | 20:34 |
| APic | My new Machine with MSI Z490-A PRO has a Realteak 8125 onboard. On Debian this seems to be supported with the Package firmware-realtek in sid. Is this by any Chance already in Devuan? And/or can i just install the Debian Package into my Devuan? | 20:35 |
| APic | Though maybe i also need a Kernel-Package from sid? | 20:37 |
| brocashelm | APic: devuan syncs packages from debian (except the project's forks to remove/alter systemd code and blacklists), so yes | 20:37 |
| * APic just installed Devuan beowulf | 20:37 | |
| APic | With Kernel 4.19.0-14 | 20:37 |
| DPA | You'll have to add non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list. https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=firmware-realtek | 20:37 |
| * brocashelm is using devuan ceres (sid) | 20:37 | |
| APic | Ok, thanks | 20:37 |
| zeroability[m] | <lts- "Check jellyfin is in video group"> I added to the video group but still no. I tried a sudo -u jellyfin to attempt to run the bin with the args in the init script and config and it tries to read and write to a directory in my regular user home. Using just sudo allows it to run. | 20:46 |
| rwp | systemdlete2, If it were me I would dig into logwatch and see what it is actually doing at that point. Seems like a bad system check to me. | 20:57 |
| lts- | zeroability[m]: yes, I literally meant to run the commands as they are, which should introduce (for example) 'JELLYFIN_USER="jellyfin"' which is then called in 'if start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --background --pidfile $PIDFILE --make-pidfile --user $JELLYFIN_USER --chuid $JELLYFIN_USER -- exec /usr/bin/jellyfin -- $JELLYFIN_ARGS' | 20:57 |
| rwp | I used to run logwatch on my RH based systems, because that was the thing there. But I don't run it on my deb based systems. | 20:57 |
| lts- | zeroability[m]: I remember I had issues with the init script originally not trying to use the variables from the /etc/default/jellyfin (its syntax was wrong) | 20:58 |
| zeroability[m] | <lts- "zeroability: I remember I had is"> Ahh. When is use /bin/sh -k it had permissions issues with /run/jellyfishesn.pid so I fixed that. I will check the syntax. | 20:59 |
| zeroability[m] | * Ahh. When is use /bin/sh -k it had permissions issues with /run/jellyfin.pid so I fixed that. I will check the syntax. | 21:00 |
| zeroability[m] | Ahh. When is use /bin/sh -k it had permissions issues with /run/jellyfin.pid so I fixed that. I will check the syntax. | 21:00 |
| user____ | what was that?! | 21:01 |
| lts- | Matrix edit, I believe | 21:02 |
| user____ | :) | 21:02 |
| rwp | Reminds me of Nabble users and mailing lists... | 21:03 |
| rwp | Nabble has an edit button and every edit the user makes sends a new email to the mailing lists. All slightly different as we get to each edit change the user made. | 21:04 |
| user____ | Now all they need to do is, upgrade it to send every keypress as an email. | 21:05 |
| user____ | It is needed for ad related research. | 21:06 |
| user____ | <almost unrelated>https://amifloced.org/ | 21:09 |
| systemdlete2 | hmmmm. I am using lightdm, not slim. (whoops) I saw slim in /etc/init.d and didn't see lightdm. | 21:28 |
| systemdlete2 | It is, indeed, lightdm, not slim running. | 21:29 |
| systemdlete2 | slim is installed, and I am removing it | 21:29 |
| systemdlete2 | purging it, completely | 21:29 |
| systemdlete2 | But it was lightdm that auth.log was reporting on | 21:30 |
| systemdlete2 | actual error from pam is "PAM adding faulty module: pam_systemd.so" | 21:32 |
| systemdlete2 | (it's not just the systemd module that is faulty... :p ) | 21:32 |
| rwp | systemdlete2, I actually remove "session optional pam_systemd.so" from /etc/pam.d/* files to avoid any logging of failed loading attempts by PAM. | 21:42 |
| luser978 | we shall not be quieted | 21:42 |
| zeroability[m] | <lts- "zeroability: I remember I had is"> I was able to fix the init script by adding the following start-stop-daemon option: | 21:42 |
| rwp | systemdlete2, It could be that these "errors" are actually just "warnings" from the "optional" loading of that module. | 21:42 |
| systemdlete2 | rwp: I wonder, could this be something that devuan could remove from its releases? | 21:44 |
| systemdlete2 | I mean, as part of the rest of the debian->devuan procedure. | 21:44 |
| systemdlete2 | but I'll remove it for now. thanks | 21:45 |
| rwp | systemdlete2, Possibly yes and possibly no. Since it isn't gone yet then probably that is due to as yet unresolved issues. | 21:45 |
| rwp | I highly recommend etckeeper+git for tracking changes to /etc. Which makes me pretty fearless making changes. Can always see what was changed and revert as needed. | 21:45 |
| rwp | You could try "grep pam_systemd.so /etc/pam.d/*" and seeing that those are optionally loaded and commenting them out and trying that and I think those errors will be silenced. | 21:46 |
| rwp | And if you run into a problem then could restore it and come back and report about it. | 21:47 |
| systemdlete2 | I will likely only find out if I reboot | 21:47 |
| systemdlete2 | which I don't do often | 21:47 |
| systemdlete2 | e.g., yesterday was the first time I had rebooted in 11 days of uptime | 21:47 |
| rwp | Or if not reboot when you log out and log back in again. Since PAM is all about login sessions. | 21:47 |
| systemdlete2 | ah | 21:47 |
| systemdlete2 | ok, I can do that. | 21:47 |
| rwp | Ha! My laptop upon which I am typing this: "up 245 days" (which says that I have not rebooted it for security kernels) | 21:48 |
| systemdlete2 | but I'm in the middle of something else atm. I will follow up here later. | 21:48 |
| rwp | But in this time of COVID I am not out and about with the laptop these days and so less of a driving force to keep it always updated. | 21:48 |
| systemdlete2 | I once had an old compaq presario 486 that I had converted to a router with ipcop/ipfire. That thing was stable! I think I had it up for over a year one time, something like 500+ days | 21:49 |
| systemdlete2 | grep shows it is optional | 21:50 |
| rwp | These days I automatically apply security upgrades daily and reboot my router immediately upon new kernel installations automatically. Too many zero days... | 21:50 |
| rwp | I personally don't want and therefore am not missing whatever functionality that library was intending to provide. | 21:51 |
| rwp | But I don't know if you will miss anything. I just don't know. | 21:51 |
| rwp | But you are complaining of errors from it. So it is a useful experiment to do in order to get feedback for you. | 21:51 |
| systemdlete2 | If it helps the project, then I'm OK with trying it. | 21:52 |
| systemdlete2 | for myself only... not as much | 21:52 |
| rwp | Note that I am just another user of the project myself! | 21:52 |
| systemdlete2 | I like doing things that contribute more than things that only fix my own problems | 21:53 |
| systemdlete2 | It is reassuring knowing that others might benefit from trouble reports, even those from minor users like myself | 21:53 |
| rwp | I think for Devuan it would be useful to have a selection of standard configurations. There could be different levels of fluff and glitter provided depending upon user needs. | 21:54 |
| systemdlete2 | also, even minor defects and problems can point to much larger problems underlying those | 21:54 |
| systemdlete2 | I would say I have quite a few here myself. For one thing, I have Star and Refracta VMs in addition to straight Devuan | 21:55 |
| rwp | For example mate might require things that xfce does not. And probably an fvwm user would be happy with none of it. (I love fvwm!) I am using i3 now and I don't use any of it. | 21:55 |
| systemdlete2 | And each of those is configured a little differently depending on what I am doing with them | 21:55 |
| systemdlete2 | I have stopped using mate, due to what are apparently memory leaks in the mate panel. | 21:55 |
| rwp | That's a good testing matrix of different environments. | 21:55 |
| systemdlete2 | I actually think that KDE and Gnome are cool. But they eat too much everything. And I have found them slow at times. | 21:56 |
| systemdlete2 | Like seeing artifacts and stuff -- they go away after a moment. I tend to only have 2 or 3 gb memory per VM and that works well for LXDE and XFCE and a few others. | 21:57 |
| systemdlete2 | Maybe I should take another dare at them though. I haven't played with KDE or Gnome in years. | 21:58 |
| systemdlete2 | My hardware boxes are faster these days. | 21:58 |
| systemdlete2 | but anyway, getting O.T. again... | 21:58 |
| systemdlete2 | But as to variety, I continue to vary my configurations. Partly to avoid boredom, partly so I can compare performance and other things. | 21:59 |
| systemdlete2 | I like diversity, what can I say? | 21:59 |
| systemdlete2 | and if there are other devuan-based distros worth testing, let me know. I usually have one new project going on here or another | 22:00 |
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