| user__ | Hi. Does Devuan use a git installed on some private servers? I just found this in another context: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/159 | 14:51 |
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| user__ | It lists a number of alternatives to github at the end. I assume Devuan went it's own way with this? | 14:51 |
| furrymcgee | https://public-inbox.org/marketing.html | 15:02 |
| user__ | furrymcgee: is that marketing or are you answering me?:) | 15:24 |
| buZz | user__: there is https://gitea.devuan.dev/ btw | 15:25 |
| furrymcgee | I am not talking about devuan private servers but the issues with gitlab | 15:50 |
| user__ | public-inbox.org is git related somehow? | 16:22 |
| furrymcgee | join #git | 17:09 |
| Xenguy | With wicd taking a vacation in chimaera, do the alternatives basically boil down to network-manager (nm) and connman? | 17:29 |
| rm | /etc/network/interfaces | 17:29 |
| Xenguy | rm, of course, but for managing public wifi etc.? | 17:30 |
| rm | dunno. I'm only half-serious of course | 17:30 |
| rm | wicd doesn't work with my laptop's wifi for some reason even in beowulf | 17:31 |
| Xenguy | I agree with you, for a PC that mostly just stays put, in one location | 17:31 |
| rm | I don't use a ton of different wifi networks, so I'm fine with /e/n/i so far | 17:31 |
| Xenguy | ENI, I like it : -) | 17:31 |
| Xenguy | I have read people who use wpa-supplicant and assorted hacks to manage different public wifi connections, so it's probably doable | 17:32 |
| Xenguy | I do prefer some setup that isn't too crude | 17:33 |
| Xenguy | And somehow I have a feeling that I just can't bring myself to use nm | 17:33 |
| Xenguy | So maybe connman is the first wicd alternative to try | 17:34 |
| Xenguy | bbiab | 17:38 |
| Xenguy | So that was amusing: I uninstalled wicd, and then tried to apt-get install connman : -P | 18:21 |
| Xenguy | Based on this I was able to deduce a clear need for more kawfee! | 18:21 |
| Xenguy | I was able to ifdown and then ifup eth0, gain a network connection through ENI, and then did: apt-get install connman cmst | 18:23 |
| Xenguy | The latter is a QT based interface to the connman daemon, and so far I like it, and it works quite easily... | 18:23 |
| Xenguy | One thing I'm not sure about is the namserver situation, as I have /etc/resolv.conf chattr'd to immutable, and AFAIK am using unbound for DNS, yet connman appears to be referencing my ISP's nameservers, so will need to investigate this further... | 18:25 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, Did you ever recall what it was about connman that rubbed you the wrong way initially? | 18:26 |
| fsmithred | Xenguy, not sure what it was before, but currently, I don't like connman because it doesn't show the IP address easily and it doesn't show nearby wireless signals easily. | 18:35 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, Good point, I have only verified that it handles my wired connection, i.e. haven't tested any wifi functionality yet | 18:37 |
| Xenguy | cmst shows the current IP address in one of the tabs | 18:37 |
| Xenguy | Huh, cmst seems to be showing wireless AP's fine also. Were you using the GTK frontend perhaps? | 18:39 |
| fsmithred | I tried both. | 18:43 |
| fsmithred | wicd shows it the easiest - you just hover on the tray icon. | 18:44 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, takes a couple of clicks to get that in connman | 18:45 |
| Xenguy | Not a showstopper, but I don't like how connman rescans the wireless AP's so frequently (perhaps there is a way to configure rescanning to be manual only). But again, not a real showstopper... | 18:46 |
| Xenguy | tuxd3v is mentioning a ncurses program called 'ceni'. Might have a look at that too. | 18:47 |
| fsmithred | I've tried it; it works; it's probably the lightest of the bunch. | 18:48 |
| fsmithred | not counting setnet.sh | 18:48 |
| Xenguy | Oh hyeah, I think you mentioned that script once upon a time... | 18:48 |
| Xenguy | I really only need this kind of thing for public wifi managment, otherwise I can just use ENI actually, since I use ethernet at home, not wireless | 18:49 |
| fsmithred | it's in devuan experimental | 18:50 |
| fsmithred | and has been there since jessie | 18:50 |
| onefang | ENI works fine for WiFi at home. They wont let me run an Ethernet cable across the hallway. | 18:50 |
| Xenguy | Looks like it's in beowulf here | 18:50 |
| Xenguy | hehe | 18:51 |
| fsmithred | where are you looking? | 18:51 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, me? | 18:51 |
| fsmithred | yeah, what's in beowulf? | 18:51 |
| fsmithred | I have my laptop set up to use e/n/i with bridged networking in runlevel 2, and then uses wicd in runlevel 4 for when I'm away from home. | 18:53 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, https://paste.debian.net/plainh/72687130 | 18:54 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, Sounds like a fancy setup | 18:54 |
| fsmithred | you could have just said 'ceni' | 18:54 |
| Xenguy | I though I did = ) | 18:54 |
| fsmithred | ceni should be in all suites. It's not new. | 18:54 |
| Xenguy | Cool, think I might take it for a spin, but more kawfee first | 18:55 |
| Xenguy | Was wondering how I was going to remember 'ceni', and then realized it probably stands for 'curses e/n/i' | 19:11 |
| onefang | lol | 19:12 |
| Xenguy | Right or wrong, it's a mnemonic that works for me : -) | 19:12 |
| fsmithred | does it edit that file? | 19:27 |
| Xenguy | Confirmed, I just looked at the man page for ceni, and it gives this: | 19:29 |
| Xenguy | https://paste.debian.net/plainh/72687130 | 19:29 |
| Xenguy | Oh sorry | 19:29 |
| Xenguy | Scratch that | 19:29 |
| Xenguy | NAME | 19:29 |
| Xenguy | Ceni - Curses /etc/network/interfaces | 19:29 |
| Xenguy | ^^ that | 19:29 |
| gnarface | i vaguely recall that wpa_supplicant is extensible through bash script hooks, and you can indeed manage wifi connections that way if you're clever | 19:37 |
| gnarface | i found it simpler to just have a static config too though | 19:37 |
| Xenguy | gnarface, Maybe one of those is the setnet.sh script previously mentioned? | 19:38 |
| gnarface | not sure really | 19:39 |
| Xenguy | I'm thinking Ceni might be the sweet spot, but will need to do some testing | 19:39 |
| Xenguy | Gonna stick with connman/cmst I think; Ceni looks a tad crude | 20:46 |
| unixbsd | plasma41: have fun, 18mb, and little memstick ;) I made a little bootable memstick to run on my notebook: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/nanochessbasic/-/blob/master/image-nanochess-basic-v1-20m.img.gz | 21:10 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, I spotted one more GUI called wpagui, ever messed with that one? | 21:15 |
| unixbsd | no yet. I am trying to decode plpbt.bin to try to see how it works. | 21:16 |
| unixbsd | Xenguy: why not in FLTK, do you need one? | 21:17 |
| Xenguy | unixbsd, FLTK? | 21:18 |
| fsmithred | Xenguy, I looked at it very briefly. It's not a candidate for default. | 21:23 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, Certainly, just curious about it as a minimal method to manage changing public wifi configs | 21:24 |
| fsmithred | probably good for anyone who doesn't know how to edit wpasupplicant files (like me) | 21:24 |
| Xenguy | Might try it sometime if we're ever allowed to get out and about again | 21:25 |
| unixbsd | I just made a little gui for your wpa gui | 21:43 |
| unixbsd | have fun... sh compile.sh: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/fltkwpagui/-/blob/master/fltkwpagui.png | 21:43 |
| melodie | hi | 22:04 |
| melodie | I am trying to get new users in Devuan 32bits to get the same look and feel as I wish to configure. I have a first user with another background, icons and gtk theme, and did a full sync of the ~/.config/xfce4 directory to /etc/skel/.config but when I create a new user the background (which I put into /usr/share/backgrounds) is not there, instead it's a dark blue bg (not bad, but not what I expected). Also two other things have not come throught : I | 22:08 |
| melodie | replaced the exo-utils www-browser icon with the one from Midori, in the whisker-menu (I prefert whisker-menu) and also as quick launcher on a secondary xfce4 panel : same thing, the changed icons didn't come through. What could I do about it? | 22:08 |
| Walex | melodie: some bits of the configuration probaly are in 'dconf' because they are in 'xfce4-settings' | 22:46 |
| Walex | melodie: you can find which files contain which bit of configuration indirectly by changing the configuration and then running in the home directory something like 'find. -type f -mmin -5' afterwards. | 22:47 |
| Xenguy | find . | 23:07 |
| melodie | Walex what is "-mmin" ? | 23:09 |
| melodie | thanks Xenguy | 23:09 |
| melodie | I have done a cp -R on xfce4 (in .config) to xfce4-backup, then changed some things, then did a diff -r | 23:10 |
| melodie | then changed some parts in /etc/skel/.config/xfce4 | 23:10 |
| Xenguy | melodie, np (the space matters). I think -mmin etc. is saying to find, "find all the files that have changed in the last 5 minutes | 23:10 |
| melodie | oh | 23:10 |
| Xenguy | But I don't know for sure, just a guess. man page would know, of course | 23:10 |
| melodie | I will check dconf now | 23:11 |
| melodie | yes of course | 23:11 |
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