| rwp | Things always look better after a good night's sleep. | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| * golinux thinks Joerg isn't getting any . . . | 00:10 | |
| rwp | I can't guess log lines are being removed by that script's grep -v '^[^ ]* *\*\*\* ' action. Something produced by supybot's logging maybe? | 00:11 |
| joerg | join/part/nick | 00:14 |
| joerg | lots of people were bitching since they have the host / IP exposed | 00:14 |
| rwp | Ah... Thanks for that hint. Here the logging is in a different format. And I am not running supybot anywhere to look at the format there. | 00:15 |
| rwp | I always find it interesting (and sad) that people will complain about their IP address in things like email logs and IRC logs. WAT?! | 00:17 |
| rwp | For IRC that is why cloaks are provided. People who don't want that known and can't easily avoid it by running their own systems can get a cloak to obscure themselves. | 00:18 |
| rwp | But as for complaining about the logs they are still public with the same information for anyone to see in the channels that they are in. | 00:19 |
| redrick | It's good there are cloaks for people whose IRC privacy-protection is that fragile. | 00:20 |
| redrick | Personally, I IRC from my public Linux server, that broadcasts on public-facing Web pages not only my exact street address but also, to lampshade the matter, my exact latitude, longitude, and altitude as my "ICBM address". | 00:21 |
| redrick | I have on good authority that this tends to unnerve the people who set out to "doxx" me. | 00:22 |
| Centurion_Dan | redrick: Nice. There is indeed something un-nerving about - "Here I am, come and get me!!!" | 00:32 |
| Centurion_Dan | Although during last years electoral campaign I did come across a facebook comment on one of the parties posts trying to dox me to my "employer". I guess they didn't check far enough to realise that I work for my own company. But seen I was moderator on the page, I deleted the comment just to piss them off. | 00:37 |
| Wonka | joerg: "http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/" might not have logs of this channel... | 00:40 |
| joerg | why? | 00:40 |
| Wonka | joerg: because here is libera and not freenode | 00:41 |
| Wonka | or at least that url would be misleading. | 00:41 |
| joerg | sorry I can't figure a simple way to have history / legacy logs with working ling for "last day" and "next day" when changing that part | 00:41 |
| Wonka | ah :) | 00:42 |
| joerg | http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/_devuan.2021-05-23.log.html#t2021-05-23T23:26:11 | 00:43 |
| tuxd3v | joerg, a AWK script would do that :) | 00:43 |
| joerg | yeah, a lot of things possibe. Bear with me, had 3 hard days now | 00:45 |
| tuxd3v | joerg, I believe you :) | 00:49 |
| joerg | Wonka: s/freenode/network/g ? | 00:54 |
| joerg | damn, I prolly could s/freenode/libera/g and add a rewrite rule like that to the webserver | 00:55 |
| joerg | nice little hack when somebody click the chanlog link on FN and gets forwarded to libera :-D | 00:56 |
| joerg | not today though | 00:58 |
| Xenguy | joerg, All in good time, thanks so much for your efforts | 01:12 |
| joerg | yw | 01:13 |
| redrick | I'm seeing a claim on LWN.net that Devuan's channel operators on the Freenode channels (including #devuan-offtopic" (on Freenode) set "restricted" mode, recently. Do any of our esteemed longtime ops know if this is correct? | 02:54 |
| lightbringer | not sure what that is, but freenode/#devuan-offtopic was cleared via ChanServ | 03:06 |
| lightbringer | and the kickreason wasn't exactly informative to people who didn't know what was going on | 03:06 |
| GyrosGeier | hi | 03:41 |
| GyrosGeier | I've tried to install Devuan using cdebootstrap from a Debian system | 03:41 |
| GyrosGeier | (inside Docker) | 03:41 |
| GyrosGeier | P: Retrieving libgcc1 | 03:41 |
| GyrosGeier | E: Couldn't download pool/DEBIAN/main/g/gcc-8/libgcc1_8.3.0-6_amd64.deb! | 03:41 |
| GyrosGeier | some other files download fine | 03:42 |
| GyrosGeier | is that an archive problem or a cdebootstrap problem? | 03:42 |
| GyrosGeier | http://paste.debian.net/1198571/ | 03:43 |
| GyrosGeier | that should be fairly straightforward | 03:43 |
| GyrosGeier | just "get Packages list, fetch all Essential:yes and their dependencies, unpack them, then use dpkg -i to install them on top of themselves" | 03:44 |
| rwp | GyrosGeier, I look and see that matches version 8.3.0-6 and therefore wonder if you are hitting a mirror problem of some sort. | 03:46 |
| rwp | GyrosGeier, Which version of Debian? I wonder if there might be a script version issue. | 03:49 |
| ShorTie | i cdebootstrap all the time, but you lost me @ Docker .. :/~ | 03:58 |
| markizano | huh, so finally saw the update that we are here now :o | 09:08 |
| GyrosGeier | rwp, tht was Debian buster as a base -- and cdebootstrap because it doesn't need magic scripts | 11:10 |
| GyrosGeier | hm | 11:25 |
| GyrosGeier | ShorTie, also happens outside Docker | 11:25 |
| GyrosGeier | ffs | 14:38 |
| GyrosGeier | can't use cdebootstrap with any suite | 14:38 |
| GyrosGeier | wtf | 14:43 |
| GyrosGeier | every attempt gets one file further | 14:43 |
| * dissident ponders cdeboottrap in a suite. I've done it in a chroot. Unsure what a "suite" would be in this context. | 14:45 | |
| GyrosGeier | right, distribution, not suite | 14:48 |
| dissident | ohhh, ok. i think i understand now | 14:48 |
| GyrosGeier | that seems to be a bit of a bug with cdebootstrap's HTTP implementation | 14:49 |
| Xenguy | markizano, Welcome back | 16:11 |
| Xenguy | redrick, I think this was originally the case, but I gather that things have been tweaked since then. Of course this whole migration is rather a WIP, but so far so good I trust | 16:12 |
| markizano | :D | 16:38 |
| markizano | Thanks, Xenguy | 16:38 |
| * APic could not get HDMI-Audio to work under Devuan | 16:46 | |
| APic | It worked under current Ubuntu, but that one occassionally hangs the whole System | 16:47 |
| APic | So i am switching back to Devuan 😉 | 16:47 |
| APic | Unfortunately i have no HDMI-Device at Home to test it, just a DVI Monitor | 16:47 |
| schillingklaus | ubuntu like everything systemdish hangs then whole brain | 16:47 |
| APic | (Video output always worked fine though) | 16:47 |
| APic | Yes, systemd sucks badly | 16:48 |
| nemo | I have a ton of audio devices on the living room devuan | 16:49 |
| APic | I will take some moar Time to debug HDMI-Audio with my Devuan-Laptop when i visit my Mother with HDMI-TV again | 16:49 |
| nemo | HDMI on the TV that I'm constantly disabling, analog speakers on the tower, headphones with mic and hdmi out.. | 16:50 |
| nemo | it all seems to work just fine | 16:50 |
| APic | Fortunately i planned no Presentations or such Stuff for which i need HDMI-Audio some Time soon | 16:50 |
| nemo | the only issues I have with pulseaudio is it insists on reactivating the HDMI audio on the TV every time I turn on the screen, so I have to set it to off in pavu again. | 16:51 |
| nemo | Aaaaand you have to be real careful to select *accurate* information for analog sources. if you say you are 5/1 and you are just 2/1, it will report that to the apps and half your sound vanishes | 16:51 |
| nemo | hard to blame pulse for that one | 16:51 |
| nemo | apart from forcing me to constantly reselect things | 16:52 |
| APic | Well, the concerned System is just my Laptop | 16:52 |
| APic | My Server, my Raspπ and the Machine at my Home always had and probably will continue to run Devuan ☺ | 16:53 |
| nemo | APic: hangs *entire* system? or just X? like, can you still ssh in? | 16:53 |
| nemo | oh. hangs under ubuntu | 16:53 |
| * nemo stops caring | 16:53 | |
| APic | Dunno, had no Inclination to further Debug it | 16:53 |
| APic | First thought maybe it just swapped on my SSD, but i disabled Swap and messed around again, and it hanged again | 16:54 |
| APic | Just reinstalling Devuan on the Laptop now ☺ | 16:54 |
| joerg | APic: :-D hi! | 18:00 |
| APic | ☺ | 18:17 |
| Beer | Is it possible to request a mere devuan user cloak? | 22:05 |
| rwp | Beer, I know that affiliated cloaks have been postponed globally while task queues drain. But unaffiliated cloaks are available for everyone automatically. | 22:35 |
| rwp | Beer, /join #libera-cloak and then ask the bot "!cloakme" and I think everything is supposed to flow from there. | 22:35 |
| rwp | Note that I am one of those without a cloak (I have my own server) so I can't talk from experience about the process. | 22:36 |
| stevelitt | I'm on liberia.chat, right? | 22:48 |
| stevelitt | I'd rather ask a dumb question than make a dumb mistake. | 22:49 |
| hagbard | yes, right | 22:49 |
| rm | no, but rather on libera.chat | 22:50 |
| stevelitt | LOL, s/liberia/libera/ :-) | 22:51 |
| golinux | Hi Steve | 22:55 |
| Beer | rwp: Worked like a charm! THx! | 23:00 |
| Beer | Welcome to Freenode | 23:00 |
| Xenguy | Beer, AFAIK you can PM parazyd for a devuan user cloak | 23:08 |
| tuxd3v_ | A cloak for the Winter? | 23:09 |
| Xenguy | tuxd3v_, Works all year round : -) | 23:09 |
| tuxd3v_ | Xenguy, :D | 23:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | comes with free dagger | 23:09 |
| Xenguy | ^^ That's the cooooooool part | 23:09 |
| tuxd3v_ | hehe | 23:10 |
| Beer | Xenguy: Wilco, thx for the hint | 23:16 |
| Xenguy | pleasure | 23:18 |
| omen | is the folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ part of systemd? | 23:58 |
| tuxd3v_ | no | 23:59 |
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