libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2021-06-17

masonfsmithred: exfat requires fuse anyway, but beyond that there's no reason udev couldn't01:01
masonThat said, I'm guessing you're asking if udisks2 handles it, and I don't have an answer to that.01:02
fsmithredno, I was asking if udevil handled exfat01:02
fsmithredpmount does not. I found a patch for it that someone gave me a few years ago, and I tried it today.01:03
fsmithredit didn't work01:03
fsmithredmason, I guess udisks2 does exfat in chimaera - I can open it on xfce desktop. But not in beowulf.01:06
masonOh, is udevil a thing? I thought it was a commentary on udev. :)01:07
fsmithredlol, it's a real package01:07
fsmithreduser-mount external drives, like pmount.01:08
masonNo reason why Beowulf couldn't be taught. It has both exfat-fuse and exfat-utils01:08
masonI've actually had to use exfat on Beowulf in the last week.01:08
fsmithredoh, they are installed in chimaera. Not sure how they got there.01:08
carloshi all, had problems with xfce4-orageclock-plugin, removed it from the panel and lets see how it goes, just restarted02:37
carlosalso removed via .config02:38
carlosjust to let you know that after update and upgrade this problem started02:39
carlostoday i decided to end it, and i think i did it.02:39
golinuxcarlos: After update and upgrade to what from what?02:55
carlosafter the upgrade (saw several xfce stuff upgraded) the panel failed, had to load it (xfce4-panel > /dev/null 2&1 &) and after that began the error messages from orageclock-plugin02:57
carlosthat was the only thing that broke, the rest is ok03:00
golinuxcarlos: update and upgrade to what from what?03:04
carlosnormal update - upgrade, im using beouwulf, beowulf to beowulf03:05
beagleburtG'day from AoTeaRoa/New Zealand everyone! Can anyone tell me how to set up a 'Bootable Persistent Live Devuan USB stick'?...or at least point me to a website for help? (I have tried Debian - using both 'live-rw' & 'casper-rw' Labels but no go?03:12
fsmithredbeagleburt, https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/refracta2usb-2.4.3.deb/download03:48
fsmithredhttps://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt03:49
fsmithredwhat did you do so far?03:49
fsmithreddid you put a persistence.conf in the persistent volume?03:51
beagleburtfsmithred, Thank you Fred! Will check it out...03:54
fredok (?!)03:58
fredyou're welcome03:58
Xenguy.oO( First name?  Fred.  Last name?  Fred...  Your name is 'Fred Fred'?!  <indignant>Yes!</>03:59
Xenguy)03:59
fred,)03:59
beagleburtfsmithred, Sorry fsmithred  & fred... I just presumed that fsmithred's 1st name was Fred...? + fsmithred : Lotsa stuff for me to take in & try...'b'ye !04:14
plasma41carlos: See https://bugs.debian.org/97762807:22
ShorTieis there a dpkg command that will list just the version (1.8.7) of a package ??14:34
rrqdpkg-query -W -f '${Version}\n' eudev14:38
ShorTieThankz14:42
carlosanother question, what kernel r u using? after dist-upgrade i have up to kernel 4.1914:56
carlosagain, im using devuan beowulf14:56
markus___0123i'm playing around with devuan unstable for my desktop system and using the xanmod-kernel 5.12. I'm quite happy with stability and performance, but don't know if this is whant you wanted to know or you want to do with your system.15:49
markus___0123#carlos15:50
carlosmarkus___0123 thanks, thats part of what i wanted to know. Is risky to upgrade to kernel 5.x outside the repository?15:52
fsmithredcarlos, if you want a newer kernel, you can get one from beowulf-backports16:10
fsmithred5.10 I think16:10
carlosthanks!!!16:10
markus___0123after adding the xanmod repositories to the package manager, updates and installing another kernel runs smoth incl. update of grub config. There will be no guaranty that you don't break the system and you'll should need a backup and install media at your hand if soomething goes ww16:10
markus___0123wrong16:10
fsmithredusing a third-party kernel may or may not work16:10
carlosneed to add that backport16:10
fsmithredif you add outside repos to your sources, you can pin it to a lower priority, so that you have to specify that repo if you want something16:11
fsmithredto prevent accidental install of stuff from there that you don't want16:11
fsmithredafk16:12
carlosfsmithred thanks for the information16:13
fsmithredcarlos, did you get the backports kernel ok?17:15
carlosfsmithred yes!!! im installing kernel 5.10, in few minutes finishes17:23
fsmithredcool17:23
carlosafter this reboot and we are done17:25
carlosdone reboot, so far so good thanks for your help17:34
fsmithredyw17:51
DPAtor/onion v2 addresses are deprecated and have been disabled: https://blog.torproject.org/v2-deprecation-timeline22:04
DPAI need a v3 replacement for the one for pkgmaster (devuanfwojg73k6r.onion). There is also an old v2 mentioned on the website which needs to be replaced.22:04
gnarfacecheck for an updated version in backports22:06
gnarfaceif it is important and popular, someone usually puts it in backports22:06
DPANo, this isn't an issue of me needing newer software. The onion domains, v2 are the short ones, v3 the very long ones. v2 ones are being decommissioned. This needs action on the server side from devuan.22:08
gnarfaceoh, i see22:09
gnarfacefsmithred, do you know anything about this?22:09
fsmithredI don't22:10
fsmithredwe're meeting in 20 minutes. I'll mention it.22:10
DPAThank you22:10
fsmithredyw. It's on the agenda now. Thank you!22:13
systemdletegparted doesn't let me move (not resize!) a partition.  I want to move a partition from the middle of the disk to the very end of the disk.  The space after the partition in question is free.23:56
gnarfaceit can't be mounted currently23:56
systemdlete(I thought this used to work, but I could be wrong)23:57
systemdleteright.  I booted off a live disk23:57
IanJor maybe the filesystem tools for that type are not installed.23:57
gnarfaceyea, check the support menu entry there should be a grid23:57
gnarfacethe features are dependent upon tools from other packages23:57
systemdleteGood poiint, IanJ.  But it might be helpful if the tool let the user know that.23:57
gnarfaceit doesn't warn you but there is a graphical menu with big colorful checkboxes23:58
systemdleteI've been trying to use a gparted boot disk.23:58
IanJI fell foul of it a couple of times.23:58
gnarfacehmm, the recent gparted boot disks should have everything23:58
IanJmaintenance disk should have everything, yeah.23:58
systemdleteI'm using 1.3, which I just downloaded recently23:58

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