libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2021-06-18

systemdleteIt's an lvm partition.00:00
systemdleteAnd the lvm tools are loaded.00:00
systemdleteI can run lvs, e.g.00:00
IanJhttps://superuser.com/questions/917988/gparted-cannot-resize-extended-or-lvm-partition#91834600:01
IanJMight be helpful.00:01
gnarfaceoh, i thought the whole point of LVM was so you didn't have to use gparted for stuff like this00:03
systemdleteWell, there the user wanted to extend the partition. That works fine.00:03
systemdletegnarface:  It is, actually!   The troulbe is that I put the encryption on a partition, not a vg.00:03
systemdleteI suppose I could correct that00:03
systemdleteIanJ:  I was trying to sort of "slide" the partition to the end of the disk.  That's what doesn't work.00:04
systemdleteI think partition magic could do tricks like that.00:05
systemdleteBut part magic is no longer a thing it seems.  Symantec discontinued support for it long ago00:05
systemdleteI think I found a web page explaining how to create a luks on a vg.00:06
systemdleteThanks gnarface, IanJ.00:06
sadsnorksystemdlete are you still there?  I think arch wiki has a good article on encryption with various combinations of luks, vm, etc.00:09
sadsnorkFound it... does this look useful?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system00:10
systemdleteEncrypting the entire system is actually the easiest thing. But I see no reason to encrypt /usr or /boot, not to mention the pain that would be at boot time.00:11
systemdleteThanks for the link, though.  I will look at it.00:11
sadsnorkHmmm, scrolling back up I see that maybe doesn't answer your original question...  Some of the info may hopefully help, even if it applies to only part of a system instead of all of it. :-)00:12
systemdletewell, there is  asection about luks on lvm... I'll look at that.  But istr that it is only available to lv's not vg's.00:12
systemdletehmmm.  Good catch, sadsnork!  They do have support for encrypted vg after all.  I just did not know it could be done.00:14
sadsnorkThe part I like is that the descriptions they have are generally intended to be a more "manual" way of dealing with the filesystems.00:15
sadsnorkI'm hoping you'll find a tidbit there that'll get you going in the right direction.00:15
systemdleteIf this works, I will truly have the best of all worlds.00:16
brocashelmusing deb-multimedia on ceres until this freeze is over with; no problems with mpv or ffmpeg01:45
ElPresidentehas xsane been removed from the default install of buster yet?07:04
ElPresidentei ran dist-upgrade from buster -> bullsye but it's still there07:04
ElPresidenteer...bullsye not buster.  plus i forget i was in the devuan irc not debian lol07:05
omenif i want to change from stable to unstable, is there more steps than just changing the package repos?12:00
omenand updating12:00
omenand upgrading12:00
pandakekok9that's all there is it to it really. just change where your apt points to, do apt update, and then upgrade and full-upgrade12:02
pandakekok9depending on how large your stable system is, it can take some time to upgrade all your packages12:03
pandakekok9I suggest backing up your system first just in case.12:03
omenyea, thanks12:04
pandakekok9Always look at what apt tells you too, before doing the upgrade. It could remove some packages you don't meant to remove12:04
pandakekok9and read the changelogs it will give to you carefully12:04
omenyeah I actually installed bunch of python packages acidentally earlier :D12:04
pandakekok9you can do it, I upgraded my stables to unstable two times, and it went well :)12:05
onefangAlso, don't use the names "stable" and "unstable" in your apt config.  Coz when Debian switches what their stable is, it'll create a mess.  Since Devuan packages come from a mixture both distros.12:15
GyrosGeierhm12:16
GyrosGeierbut that mixture is happening server side on Devuan servers12:16
GyrosGeieralso, cdebootstrap doesn't work for Devuan because of that12:16
GyrosGeierit's mostly a bug in cdebootstrap, but still annoying12:17
onefangYou can feel free to try it, but I've warned you.  You can keep both pieces if it breaks.  The other Devuan devs will say the same thing, use the actual Devuan code names.12:18
GyrosGeierI agree that it's a bad idea12:18
omengood point. I dont even remember devuan codenames since I'm new12:29
omenthey are planets, right? or maybe I'm mixing12:29
onefangYep, planets.12:47
onefangJessie, ASCII, Beowelf, Chimeara (maybe spelled it wrong), Ceres.12:48
onefangOr rather planets, moons, asteroids, etc.12:48
onefangAnd I spelled Beowulf wrong to.  lol12:48
ShorTieThat's Ok, We don't take off for spelling14:17
drnhi all. I just flashed the bios chip on a x230. the process went great, but I cannot boot into Devuan Beowulf nor a live usb running Beowulf. After asking ppl at coreboot, the problem might be that the system is on efi and now it's bios. How can I solve this?17:19
drnthere's not a problem to fresh install, nothing is on the system. I need some guidance though to know how should I proceed17:31
golinuxonefang: fyi . . . https://www.devuan.org/os/releases17:50
dice_hello18:18
dice_question everything18:51
ltsWhy?18:52
dice_why not?18:52
search_socialdrn Can you get to a grub shell?21:36
drnsearch_social: hello. I don't think so, reading about grub shell now. I've ruled out the chip flashing, I can run another live distro. Would like to run and install devuan though. Now that I know it can boot from usb, I will try again making a devuan usb21:40
search_socialdrn: Does the other live distro give you a grub boot menu choice?21:42
stiltrPerhaps you need to disable secure boot and enable "legacy" booting, or whatever it's called?21:43
search_socialI have been able to get to grub (and therefore to devuan) on both a bios and efi system from a usb21:43
search_socialthe dd method works but i didn't want to lose the ability to use the jump drive for other stuff too and through some pain and suffering got it to work without dd21:44
drnI currently have seabios, since today, I'm not that familiar with its settings, although it doesn't look like it has many... no coreboot. There was nothing on the system, so a fresh install is welcome. I'll tell you in a few minutes if it works, writing the usb now21:47
golinux(Diving into the BIOS gives me palpitations)21:50
drngood news, live usb booted, works magnificent, even the wifi :)21:58
golinux*\o/*22:00
drnthank you for your help, it helped massively having someone to bounce ideas with22:11

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