| fsr | hello | 02:24 |
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| fsr | ping golinux | 02:27 |
| hdt551 | I plan on replacing my debian buster install with devuan soon and I see you are working on chimaera. | 02:39 |
| hdt551 | If I use chimaera, will I be able to do updates to eventually get to the stable version? | 02:40 |
| rwp | hdt551, https://www.devuan.org/os/releases and https://www.debian.org/releases/ | 02:53 |
| rwp | hdt551, Chimaera is based upon Bullseye which is mostly frozen now and soon to be released. | 02:53 |
| rwp | When Chimaera is released then it will become the new Stable. | 02:54 |
| rwp | It's always a good idea to use named releases in the sources.list file. For a long list of reasons. | 02:54 |
| rwp | But anyway if you upgraded to chimaera today then it becomes the stable release when it is released as the stable release. | 02:54 |
| rwp | Until Chimaera releases then it is *ahead* of the Stable release, which is currently Beowulf. | 02:55 |
| hdt551 | Very good, thank you for that information. | 02:55 |
| hdt551 | I think I will proceed with the new install. | 02:56 |
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| sgage | The jooz? I thought it was the Crown Prince of Korea. Whatevs. | 04:45 |
| golinux | joerg: Fly by spammer alert | 04:50 |
| fluffywolf | what amazes me is the same bots have somehow decided to spam fluffnode. | 04:57 |
| Xenguy | hah, whatevsies | 05:01 |
| fluffywolf | this means they're either scanning a huge portion of the address space looking for irc servers, or logging the couple channels I mentioned it in. | 05:02 |
| joerg | fluffywolf: or the bot _is_ on _your_ PC in your browser as a plugin you were not aware of | 12:28 |
| UsL | he was uncloaked/unbounced so the address was fully visible if someone wants to place a +b. | 14:14 |
| gour | any desktop-viber user can help...whenever i start my (xfce) session, desktop-viber starts from the scratch - syncing with my phone etc. instead of 'resuming'. any hint how to solve it? (iirc, it was working correctly under gnome...) | 14:34 |
| joerg | UsL: pointless, got k-lined already | 15:00 |
| joerg | just ignore it, it's been handled fine by our excellent Libera.chat staffers and bots | 15:03 |
| joerg | if a maqssive attack would happen to this particular channel, anybody with +o on ACl may do `/msg chanserv op #devuan`, /mode #devuan +q $~a | 15:05 |
| joerg | please don't forget to revert by /mode -q $~a eventually | 15:05 |
| joerg | you also just could /invite ozone but even then spammes like this one will post one or two lines before getting k-lined | 15:07 |
| enyc | gour: fwiw I'm not sure who still stuck with viber | 16:18 |
| enyc | gour: tbh, FOSS signal-desktop works well, with Signal network, which so far as I can see is (these days) better choice [that, and growing Matrix but thats harder to get others into....] | 16:19 |
| enyc | gour: seems (outwardly) that Signal does at least everything Viber does, and is FOSS, albeit central phone # registration database and (at the moment) apparently good governance. But, like to diversify further too nonetheless. | 16:20 |
| onefang | My problem with signal-desktop is the need to link it to my phone, only way is to use the phone's camera pointed at a QR code. Phone's camera doesn't work anymore, no alternative method (support ticket lodged, no answer), so I can't use signal-desktop anymore. | 16:21 |
| enyc | onefang: signald or something else can be manually activated | 16:33 |
| onefang | I want to link it to my phone's copy though. | 16:33 |
| enyc | onefang: may be easier to ifixit phone camera | 16:33 |
| onefang | Sloppy design though, there should be a backup method. | 16:34 |
| onefang | Or allow use of the front camera. | 16:36 |
| gour | enyc: well, i use both signal and telegram, but for the kid's activities everyone opens viber group for different communication...and it is simply easier for me to type reply on my computer than on the "smart" phone, so here i have no choice | 17:18 |
| gour | the question is how to prevent it (viber) to start from the scratch every time | 17:19 |
| enyc | gour: viber have their own support/channel? | 17:33 |
| enyc | rwp: hrrm... chimaera you speak of ;p | 17:35 |
| enyc | I'm curious what 'new' problems came abut adapting beowulf that didn't apply to buster base | 17:35 |
| enyc | i.e. how were shims, dbus/ networkmanager/whatever else needing "new" adaptions? | 17:35 |
| joerg | >>question is how to prevent it (viber) to start from the scratch every time<< a VM snapshot should do. I don't know if you could hack something using gdb for loading a "coredump" | 17:54 |
| Atari-Frosch | Is there something wrong with de.deb.devuan.org? apt tells me that it has no more release files. | 18:20 |
| Atari-Frosch | … at least for Beowulf. | 18:21 |
| Atari-Frosch | Solved, changed sources to deb.devuan.org, now I get the updates. | 18:28 |
| sadsnork | Atari-Frosch, I guess you beat me to it... but I am pretty sure the country based names for sources are no longer being used. | 18:31 |
| sadsnork | This may help as well - https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt | 18:32 |
| Xenguy | Looks like a sizeable update is available today on Beowulf | 18:42 |
| fsmithred | xfce4-weather-plugin got fixed! | 18:55 |
| yeti | I can has select 10°K less again? | 18:55 |
| fsmithred | did check to see what other units are available | 18:56 |
| fsmithred | nope. Just F and C | 18:56 |
| yeti | as difference 10°K = 10°C | 18:56 |
| yeti | I just want less heat | 18:57 |
| fsmithred | oh | 18:57 |
| fsmithred | this just reports. It doesn't control. | 18:57 |
| yeti | then it is broken | 18:57 |
| yeti | .-P | 18:57 |
| fsmithred | hack HAART | 18:58 |
| fsmithred | j/k | 18:58 |
| fsmithred | I need to reboot after upgrade. brb. | 18:59 |
| gour | enyc: well, i don't expect much, except when it comes to linux version...i'm not sure whether t's something related to systemd or how does xfe restore session since the latter is absent in gnome | 19:32 |
| Atari-Frosch | sadsnork: Thank you. I even don't know when I could update the last time, must have been last month or so? | 19:37 |
| Atari-Frosch | Ah, that is only valid for my desktop computer. For the servers I had already chosen deb.devuan.org, and they are up to date :-) | 19:40 |
| fsmithred | Atari-Frosch, you could look at /var/log/apt/history.log | 19:41 |
| Atari-Frosch | fsmithred: Arghs, right. Must be the heat that I forgot ;-) | 19:42 |
| Walex | dminuoso: In "Structured Programming" Dijkstra wrote an article with title "On hour inability to do much", saying that the human mind c annot cope well with big, commplex, sophisticated things, so doing things simple is good :-) | 19:58 |
| Walex | https://stackoverflow.com/a/622183 https://quotes.yourdictionary.com/author/edsger-w-dijkstra/ | 20:00 |
| Walex | the second quote to the same effect was from his classic "GOTO considered harmful" of 1968 and may be highyl relevant to what he would say :-) | 20:01 |
| Walex | oops, I have to disapper for some late shopping | 20:01 |
| Walex | oops wrong channel | 20:02 |
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