| mdt | lately i installed a package that was packaged for systemd usage only and did not contain any init.d scripts. so i wondered if it would be possible to "compile" a init.d script from the .services file and if such a thing already exists. what do you think? | 10:26 |
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| furrymcgee | whats the package? | 10:35 |
| furrymcgee | is it worth the trouble? | 10:39 |
| jason1234 | hello | 10:51 |
| jason1234 | i run chimaera with 5.10 versus archlinux 5.12 on vega amd, board. the graphics are laggy in devuan. archlinux works fine. any idea how to find out what piece of devuan fails in there? | 10:52 |
| jason1234 | (tested gzdoom, ... supertuxkart). | 10:52 |
| gnarface | jason1234: you probably are missing firmware-amd-graphics from non-free | 11:07 |
| jason1234 | would a dmesg help with Xorg.0.log help there on both? | 11:12 |
| gnarface | both might help | 11:14 |
| gnarface | you can just check for that package too | 11:14 |
| gnarface | i guarantee it's not gonna work without it | 11:14 |
| gnarface | though you might be missing others too | 11:14 |
| jason1234 | ok, i upload them | 11:14 |
| gnarface | use paste.debian.net please | 11:15 |
| jason1234 | how? | 11:15 |
| jason1234 | both dmesg and more are uplodaed. please find there (currenlty on git, i will look how to netcat): https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/firmware-amd-graphics-linux/-/tree/main/experiment1 | 11:18 |
| jason1234 | maybe this is this thing: [ 16.322441] [drm:amdgpu_pci_probe [amdgpu]] *ERROR* amdgpu requires firmware installed ?? | 11:36 |
| gnarface | it's definitely the thing i said it is | 11:40 |
| gnarface | missing package firmware-amd-graphics | 11:40 |
| jason1234 | you are good ... nice to hear. I will test to install it, I look on debian cdrimage night build where to find... | 11:41 |
| gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=firmware-amd-graphics | 11:42 |
| gnarface | use devuan packages | 11:42 |
| gnarface | don't use debian packages | 11:42 |
| jason1234 | wow cool. I didnt know this page. | 11:43 |
| jason1234 | devuan gets bigger and larger. nice search page | 11:43 |
| jason1234 | when I was travelling, without net, I was happy to have the dvd of devuan, it is very unique that we can still have a systemd free system. nice to see that devuan is up there. | 11:44 |
| jason1234 | although, I took the lib from the ISO desktop cdrom amd64, chimaera on the top of debootstrap. it seems that non free is not into the /lib of cdrom 1.2 GB iso live of chimeaerea | 11:47 |
| gnarface | maybe not | 11:47 |
| gnarface | you know you can just install it with apt right? | 11:48 |
| gnarface | if you have a working network connection and your /etc/apt/sources.list has the right urls you can just run "apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics" | 11:48 |
| jason1234 | i will try with a deb to see first... | 11:49 |
| jason1234 | I useually try to keep by deb files, to be sure that it works later on. easiyl apt-get get broken. | 11:50 |
| gnarface | well you might have to download more than just that package | 11:50 |
| jason1234 | i understand... ok, let's try. | 11:51 |
| jason1234 | apt-get, if it works, then I will mirror it. or snapshot it as a squasfs. | 11:52 |
| mdt | furrymcgee: it could work for any package that comes without init.d scripts, dont know how many are out there.. i dont think it's that much trouble so i wonder if that isnt already there | 12:07 |
| jason1234 | ah yeah, since devuan and debian are free software, they cannot offfeer in the iso desktop live amd64 , the non-free drivers ... I see. | 12:16 |
| jason1234 | tada .. the reboot looks much better | 12:23 |
| jason1234 | gnarface: It works!! you made it! | 12:24 |
| jason1234 | packge: note in that the script/chimeara in debootstrap misses next to edge| ... <--- please add chimeara to fix it. | 12:29 |
| jason1234 | i added into it to debootstrap, see https://termbin.com/ijcr | 12:33 |
| nixpipe | so let's say, hypothetically that, i uh, wanted to install some software from, hypothetically, an ubuntu ppa. Theoretically speaking, how would i uh, do that, liberal? | 12:34 |
| jason1234 | nixpipe: that's completely different system. snap is not in devuan | 12:35 |
| jason1234 | which software do you want ? | 12:35 |
| nixpipe | ok jokes aside, a few months ago i was trying to distrohop but the fact that neither devuan or debian can use PPAs turned me off | 12:36 |
| nixpipe | it's corectrl | 12:36 |
| jason1234 | normally, you dont need too | 12:36 |
| jason1234 | there are sufficient packages into the devuan/debian that you dont need ubuntu | 12:37 |
| nixpipe | yeah but since i play on linux as well with a RX580, overclocking is kind of my lifeblood | 12:37 |
| jason1234 | In any case, archlinux is more up to date than ubuntu | 12:37 |
| jason1234 | what is missing in debian/devuan for the RX580? kernel or firmware? | 12:38 |
| nixpipe | but also more unstable: i used it for almost a year now and while there weren't any breaking issues, there was always one that stopped from having a smooth sail. | 12:38 |
| nixpipe | https://launchpad.net/~ernstp/+archive/ubuntu/mesarc | 12:39 |
| nixpipe | corectrl | 12:39 |
| furrymcgee | mdt: a generic solution should be provided by the init system | 12:41 |
| rrq | jason1234: note /usr/sbin/debootstrap:31 ... that leaves --merged-usr an option but not default | 12:41 |
| jason1234 | rrq: i dont understand. i am not a pro developer | 12:42 |
| jason1234 | nixpipe: it is here. https://github.com/ernstp/ppa-mesarc likely it would work oin devuan | 12:43 |
| jason1234 | nixpipe: likely ask here, they might help in that direction | 12:44 |
| jason1234 | nixpipe: do you have a dmesg if you need tips for your hardware? | 12:45 |
| mdt | furrymcgee: you mean as part of sysvinit-utils ? | 12:45 |
| nixpipe | jason1234; wait how can i add a ppa through github? | 12:48 |
| jason1234 | in any case, you need always the source code. | 12:49 |
| jason1234 | I guewses gnarface or other will help you here. | 12:49 |
| furrymcgee | mdt: No, I dont think they use .services files | 12:51 |
| jason1234 | nixpipe: which kernel do you use? | 12:53 |
| user_ | How do I stop sshd in beowulf? I have already issued 'service ssh stop'. I still see sshd and ssh-agent running. | 12:54 |
| jason1234 | /etc/init.d/ssh stop | 12:54 |
| furrymcgee | mdt: init-system-helpers | 12:54 |
| nixpipe | jason1234; atm i'm on Fedora 34 with a liquorix port for it | 12:54 |
| rrq | jason1234: the patch you pasted enforces no-merged-usr, which chimaera debootstrap already has that as its default. But the suggested patch disables a merged-usr variant. | 12:55 |
| jason1234 | nixpipe: the best is to directly try or may try to ask gnarface, he might help. | 12:55 |
| jason1234 | rrq: ah I see. | 12:55 |
| user_ | /etc/init.d/ssh stop also does not stop all instances of sshd. | 12:57 |
| user_ | Besides, I thought 'service ssh stop' would effectivly call '/etc/init.d/ssh stop'. | 12:59 |
| rrq | yes; it stops the service, but doesn't kill current connections | 12:59 |
| user_ | There are no connections on that machine. | 13:00 |
| rrq | in that case thera are no sshd processes | 13:01 |
| user_ | Then why does 'ps -e|grep ssh' display the sshd daemon? Should I file a bug report? | 13:02 |
| jason1234 | if you screw the ssh, you can always use minitelnet. | 13:02 |
| jason1234 | minitelnet will have a telnet server, if you need to access it to hack it ... https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/minitelnet/ | 13:02 |
| user_ | I am trying to prohibit connections to that machine, which is why I am trying to properly close sshd, i.e., without resorting to kill -9. | 13:03 |
| rrq | user_: each sshd process is servicing a current connection; they come about as the listening process forks for that purpose. | 13:04 |
| user_ | That machine is not even connected to the network yet. where could that connection have possibly come from? Are some processes connecting via 'localhost' to that machine? | 13:05 |
| jason1234 | dhclient eth0 | 13:07 |
| rrq | use 'netstat -anp | grep -w ESTABLISHED' to see the end points | 13:07 |
| rrq | well ... those with :22 (the ssh port) | 13:07 |
| jason1234 | 22 is ssh | 13:08 |
| jason1234 | you can see it too with nmap -sS localhost or netstat ... | 13:09 |
| user_ | Aargh. Sorry, all. I had an LXC container running. By default those do not have an sshd daemon active, but this one did. The process also shows up on the host. I had to stop it in the container. | 13:10 |
| jason1234 | ah those amd drivers are made by Advanced Micro Devices, INC. copyright. the question, is why do they do that for Linux actually? | 13:16 |
| jason1234 | gnarface: gaming working on devuan chimarea! thank you! I put a kit of infos about hte AMD board graphic cards... https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/firmware-amd-graphics-linux/ | 13:23 |
| furrymcgee | DISPLAY=:0 xsel | 13:30 |
| furrymcgee | mdt: once there was a systemd2init tool, debian/1.20 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741252 | 13:30 |
| manis_ | Hi. Is anyone using libvirt on chimaera currently? Since the upgrade from beowulf 9p is broken for me. | 16:00 |
| manis_ | I've been searching way too far. A change from pseries-3.1 to pseries-5.2 has resolved this issue. | 16:29 |
| jason1234 | the code is a mess, anyhow, a little fltk package manager for the raspberry pi and debian: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/flpkg | 18:26 |
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