lfluffywof | I'm really tempted to try an update from debian 5 to chimaera... is this an utterly awful idea? :P | 02:29 |
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blockhead | isn't debian up to 10 or so atm? | 02:32 |
lfluffywof | 11! | 02:32 |
onefang | Debian turned it up to 11! | 02:35 |
fluffywolf | has an upgrade with this big of a version difference been done, and are they any major breaking changes that mean it'll never work? | 02:38 |
rwp | fluffywolf, It's okay to upgrade from Debian 5 *through* each major version until reaching Chimaera. But don't skip major releases as that will cause major breakage. | 04:29 |
rwp | Always upgrade to the next major release before upgrading to anything later. | 04:30 |
fluffywolf | squeeze worked, doing wheezy now... | 04:48 |
rwp | I also recommend spending some time cleaning up too. Things like "dpkg -l | grep ^rc" to find packages removed but not purged. Then purging those that you don't want. | 04:52 |
rwp | Install apt-show-versions and then "apt-show-versions | grep -v -e uptodate" and removing anything that you don't want that is no longer in any of the repositories. | 04:53 |
fluffywolf | upgrading to devuan jessie now... | 05:10 |
fluffywolf | now upgrading to ascii... this might actually work?! | 05:19 |
fluffywolf | "~$ cat /etc/issue Devuan GNU/Linux 4 \n \l" holy crap, I upgraded lenny to chimaera and it boots. | 05:48 |
rwp | I never had any doubts! :-) | 05:48 |
fluffywolf | apache no longer works | 05:49 |
fluffywolf | it serves the placeholder for all my domains | 05:49 |
rwp | A few versions back apache upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 and the config file syntax for it changed enough it requires some rewrites. | 05:50 |
rwp | I expected you would have caught that at, I think, Stretch? | 05:50 |
rwp | Look in /var/log/apache2/error.log for errors and then fix up the config file and it should then work. | 05:51 |
rwp | Or even better take the opportunity to switch to Nginx. Nginx FTW! :-) | 05:51 |
fluffywolf | no errors getting logged... | 05:52 |
brocashelm | go all the way to ceres ;) | 05:54 |
rwp | What does this say? service apache2 status | 05:54 |
fluffywolf | is running. | 05:55 |
fluffywolf | which I knew. lol. it's just ignoring my vhost config. | 05:55 |
rwp | That is encouraging. Try: apachectl status | 05:55 |
rwp | Well... You will need to debug it. It is all of the usual Apache stuff. | 05:57 |
fluffywolf | what I need to do is sleep, but it's 404ing everything... | 06:00 |
fluffywolf | I don't think it's parsing my sites-enabled at all... | 06:02 |
fluffywolf | I intentionally put garbage in one and there's still no errors | 06:03 |
fluffywolf | but if I put crap in the main .conf file, it won't start | 06:04 |
fluffywolf | oh, duh, now it insists they end in .conf. before it did not. | 06:06 |
fluffywolf | that's the type of change that should be pointed out on upgrade. | 06:06 |
fluffywolf | rename 's/^(.*\....)$/$1.conf/' * | 06:10 |
fluffywolf | lol | 06:10 |
rwp | Are you sure that .conf name change wasn't in the release notes several OS major versions ago? Pretty sure it was... | 06:10 |
fluffywolf | I didn't get presented with any apache notes on upgrades. | 06:12 |
rwp | It's in the release notes. https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat | 06:14 |
rwp | But nothing you can't catch up on now. | 06:14 |
rwp | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html | 06:15 |
fluffywolf | usually the upgrade process points out major breakages. | 06:15 |
rwp | Hmm... I guess I haven't ever seen it. But it's certainly nice when the package postinst automatically transitions needed config files. | 06:16 |
fluffywolf | it's a pretty impressive comment on the package management system that I could upgrade 6 versions and still have a mostly working box. | 06:17 |
rwp | Yes. Take that all the rpm weenies out there! :-) | 06:18 |
fluffywolf | I had to do a bit of aptitude dependency resolution, but nothing too challenging. | 06:19 |
Vanfanel | Hi! There's a problem with Devuan on Pi4. Sustained CPU usage turns display off. It used to happen on Raspberry Pi OS but was fixed at a point: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/1598 | 09:41 |
Vanfanel | Is the person who builds Raspberry Pi4 images around here? | 09:41 |
u-amarsh04 | Vanfanei, it might be worth registering and posting on https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=24 | 09:54 |
u-amarsh04 | otherwise, you could use reportbug | 09:54 |
Vanfanel | u-amarsh04: yes, I am trying to login to the forum without success :( | 09:55 |
Vanfanel | For some reason, my password and even the recovery password are unrecognized | 09:55 |
u-amarsh04 | that's not good /-: | 09:56 |
Vanfanel | u-amarsh04: ah, fixed it, my fault :) | 09:57 |
Vanfanel | I mean, I can now login to the forums | 09:57 |
onefang | I think #devuan-arm might be useful to. | 10:02 |
Vanfanel | onefang: ah, thanks! | 10:02 |
u-amarsh04 | maybe #devuan-arm should be mentioned in the introduction message in addition to #devuan-offtopic | 10:06 |
Vanfanel | What does Devuan use for /dev managemen by default on x86, eudev or udev? | 16:06 |
fsmithred | Vanfanel, eudev | 16:22 |
Vanfanel | fsmithred: thanks | 16:58 |
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