libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2021-11-04

lfluffywofI'm really tempted to try an update from debian 5 to chimaera...  is this an utterly awful idea?  :P02:29
blockheadisn't debian up to 10 or so atm?02:32
lfluffywof11!02:32
onefangDebian turned it up to 11!02:35
fluffywolfhas an upgrade with this big of a version difference been done, and are they any major breaking changes that mean it'll never work?02:38
rwpfluffywolf, It's okay to upgrade from Debian 5 *through* each major version until reaching Chimaera.  But don't skip major releases as that will cause major breakage.04:29
rwpAlways upgrade to the next major release before upgrading to anything later.04:30
fluffywolfsqueeze worked, doing wheezy now...04:48
rwpI also recommend spending some time cleaning up too.  Things like "dpkg -l | grep ^rc" to find packages removed but not purged.  Then purging those that you don't want.04:52
rwpInstall apt-show-versions and then "apt-show-versions | grep -v -e uptodate" and removing anything that you don't want that is no longer in any of the repositories.04:53
fluffywolfupgrading to devuan jessie now...05:10
fluffywolfnow upgrading to ascii...  this might actually work?!05:19
fluffywolf"~$ cat /etc/issue Devuan GNU/Linux 4 \n \l"  holy crap, I upgraded lenny to chimaera and it boots.05:48
rwpI never had any doubts! :-)05:48
fluffywolfapache no longer works05:49
fluffywolfit serves the placeholder for all my domains05:49
rwpA few versions back apache upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 and the config file syntax for it changed enough it requires some rewrites.05:50
rwpI expected you would have caught that at, I think, Stretch?05:50
rwpLook in /var/log/apache2/error.log for errors and then fix up the config file and it should then work.05:51
rwpOr even better take the opportunity to switch to Nginx.  Nginx FTW! :-)05:51
fluffywolfno errors getting logged...05:52
brocashelmgo all the way to ceres ;)05:54
rwpWhat does this say? service apache2 status05:54
fluffywolfis running.05:55
fluffywolfwhich I knew.  lol.  it's just ignoring my vhost config.05:55
rwpThat is encouraging.  Try: apachectl status05:55
rwpWell...  You will need to debug it.  It is all of the usual Apache stuff.05:57
fluffywolfwhat I need to do is sleep, but it's 404ing everything...06:00
fluffywolfI don't think it's parsing my sites-enabled at all...06:02
fluffywolfI intentionally put garbage in one and there's still no errors06:03
fluffywolfbut if I put crap in the main .conf file, it won't start06:04
fluffywolfoh, duh, now it insists they end in .conf.  before it did not.06:06
fluffywolfthat's the type of change that should be pointed out on upgrade.06:06
fluffywolfrename 's/^(.*\....)$/$1.conf/' *06:10
fluffywolflol06:10
rwpAre you sure that .conf name change wasn't in the release notes several OS major versions ago?  Pretty sure it was...06:10
fluffywolfI didn't get presented with any apache notes on upgrades.06:12
rwpIt's in the release notes.  https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat06:14
rwpBut nothing you can't catch up on now.06:14
rwphttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html06:15
fluffywolfusually the upgrade process points out major breakages.06:15
rwpHmm...  I guess I haven't ever seen it.  But it's certainly nice when the package postinst automatically transitions needed config files.06:16
fluffywolfit's a pretty impressive comment on the package management system that I could upgrade 6 versions and still have a mostly working box.06:17
rwpYes.  Take that all the rpm weenies out there!  :-)06:18
fluffywolfI had to do a bit of aptitude dependency resolution, but nothing too challenging.06:19
VanfanelHi! There's a problem with Devuan on Pi4. Sustained CPU usage turns display off. It used to happen on Raspberry Pi OS but was fixed at a point: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/159809:41
VanfanelIs the person who builds Raspberry Pi4 images around here?09:41
u-amarsh04Vanfanei, it might be worth registering and posting on https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=2409:54
u-amarsh04otherwise, you could use reportbug09:54
Vanfanelu-amarsh04: yes, I am trying to login to the forum without success :(09:55
VanfanelFor some reason, my password and even the recovery password are unrecognized09:55
u-amarsh04that's not good /-:09:56
Vanfanelu-amarsh04: ah, fixed it, my fault :)09:57
VanfanelI mean, I can now login to the forums09:57
onefangI think #devuan-arm might be useful to.10:02
Vanfanelonefang: ah, thanks!10:02
u-amarsh04maybe #devuan-arm should be mentioned in the introduction message in addition to #devuan-offtopic10:06
VanfanelWhat does Devuan use for /dev managemen by default on x86, eudev or udev?16:06
fsmithredVanfanel, eudev16:22
Vanfanelfsmithred: thanks16:58

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