| adhoc | morning all | 01:03 |
|---|---|---|
| golinux | No dinner time! | 01:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | bedtime! | 01:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | UTC | 01:26 |
| golinux | That about covers the world | 01:37 |
| joerg | UGT | 03:41 |
| joerg | Universal Greeting Time defines it's always morning when somebody joins an IRC channel, regardless of anybody's real local time of day, including that of the one who's greeting. Thus you always greet witrh "good morning" when entering a channel, ansd you always greet with an appropriate late time of day greeting when leaving | 03:45 |
| joerg | http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 03:46 |
| joerg | >>Now, instead of spending time figuring out what time of day is it for every member of the channel, we spend time explaining newcomers benefits of UGT. << ;-) | 03:49 |
| fluffywolf | or, you know, you could use "good day", "namaste", "guten tag", "heyas", "g'day", "hello all", "bonjour", "hi y'all", "nuq'neH", or anything else that doesn't specify a time. :P | 03:51 |
| blockhead | "duuuuuuuude, wasssssup ;)" | 03:52 |
| fluffywolf | not that. :P | 03:54 |
| blockhead | :D | 03:56 |
| Hydragyrum | I personally prefer "nuq'neH" | 04:07 |
| fluffywolf | tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'a'? | 04:12 |
| u4t | no, i don't speak klingon | 04:34 |
| fluffywolf | lol | 04:35 |
| rwp | But what about those like Hotel California that have checked in but never leave? (I do like the UGT concept though.) | 05:15 |
| golinux | All off-topic | 05:17 |
| uvok | Hi. Anyone having/had the problem that logical volumes wouldn't show up in Thunar with Devuan Chimaera (similar to this: http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3666)? I found that running vgchange -an; vgchange -ay makes the volumes display again. The problem seems to be the underlying udisks2, b/c in the state of Thunar not displaying the volumes, udisksctl info -b <volume> (and mount) doesn't work as well | 10:19 |
| UsL | uvok: not trying to make you change your prefs or so, but have you ever tried SpaceFM? | 11:13 |
| UsL | if that doesn't display drives correctly I don't know what does. | 11:14 |
| uvok | Haven't tried that yet, no | 11:17 |
| UsL | I find it to be an excellent file manager. You can configure it almost anyway you want. | 11:19 |
| UsL | I mean, until thunar get that bug fixed. | 11:20 |
| uvok | I don't think it's Thunar itself, rather, udisks. Not sure if SpaceFM uses that as well | 11:25 |
| UsL | it lets you choose udev, eudev, or hal for managing devices. One of those should work for you. | 11:27 |
| UsL | it even gives you more options. And states: "SpaceFM & udevil can be used completely without systemd, consolekit, policykit, dbus, udisks, gvfs & fuse (although it can coexist with any of these)." | 11:31 |
| UsL | udevil being his own solution. | 11:32 |
| uvok | Worth a try, thanks. I'm just worried maybe I'm only missing a package or so. | 11:47 |
| global_elites_ | hoy do you get Devuan to sync systyem time over ntp? | 14:39 |
| UsL | with ntpd? | 14:43 |
| global_elites_ | thanks | 14:46 |
| UsL | I think the debian wiki is true for devuan as well.. I havent checked in a long time though. https://wiki.debian.org/NTP | 14:48 |
| UsL | there is an alternative to ntpd I always forget the name of. It's supposed to be better in some areas | 14:53 |
| UsL | chrony! https://chrony.tuxfamily.org/comparison.html I should bookmark it someday and test it out | 14:54 |
| Tenkawa | UsL: if you don't need continous checking you can use ntpdate | 14:54 |
| UsL | true | 14:55 |
| Tenkawa | chrony is good too | 14:55 |
| UsL | I should try it someday™ | 14:56 |
| global_elites_ | chrony seems to work | 15:00 |
| * Tenkawa is about to try slimming down a machine more using chrony | 15:02 | |
| Tenkawa | I do have to say though.. this is going to be hard to beat | 15:04 |
| Tenkawa | 2440 1668 | 15:04 |
| Tenkawa | (thats using recompiled busybox's ntpd) | 15:04 |
| Tenkawa | 18864 3528 | 15:08 |
| Tenkawa | yeah quite a bit heavier | 15:08 |
| UsL | is that memory usage in bytes or? | 15:09 |
| Tenkawa | yeah | 15:09 |
| Tenkawa | pi 0 2 | 15:09 |
| Tenkawa | heh | 15:09 |
| UsL | ah | 15:09 |
| Tenkawa | trying to build a super low ram footprint | 15:10 |
| Tenkawa | PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 4 (chimaera)" | 15:10 |
| UsL | nice | 15:11 |
| Tenkawa | custom built most everything is tuned down.. just finding things to tweak | 15:11 |
| UsL | I want that as well. I'm evaluating different window managers and what not. XFCE is becoming gnome/freedesktop so perhaps time to drop it. | 15:18 |
| unixman | If one is behind a firewall (ISP) that blocks inbound well known ports to "protect" one OpenNTPD works in that situation. I run it on my home server due to that scenario. | 15:18 |
| NotAlexNoyle | Hi all. I am trying to migrate from Debian to Devuan. Upon reaching the step: "apt-get install eudev", apt reports these errors and ends with error code 4 https://i.imgur.com/2smK16B.png. Does anyone know how I can proceed? | 15:31 |
| Tenkawa | root@debian:~# apt-get install eudev | 15:35 |
| Tenkawa | The last command is known to cause package breaks but we will fix this as part of the migration process. | 15:35 |
| Tenkawa | it says very clearly to expect this | 15:35 |
| NotAlexNoyle | yes but it also says the package breaks will be resolved in the last step and right now I can't move on to the next step | 15:36 |
| Tenkawa | package breaks I think is a translation issue | 15:36 |
| Tenkawa | worded badly | 15:36 |
| Tenkawa | do not quote me though | 15:37 |
| Tenkawa | run the next command with --dry-run and see what it would try to do | 15:37 |
| Tenkawa | thats the safest route | 15:37 |
| Tenkawa | I think what they were trying to say is to expect these and you'll fix these issues as you go through the migration process | 15:38 |
| Tenkawa | apt-get -f install alone is a forceable step | 15:39 |
| Tenkawa | this whole procedure is a bit risky in my opinion | 15:39 |
| Tenkawa | there are about 3 steps missing I see already | 15:40 |
| NotAlexNoyle | it tries to remove libnss-myhostname which fails with error code 4 | 15:43 |
| NotAlexNoyle | force uninstalling with dpkg doesn't resolve it | 15:43 |
| NotAlexNoyle | its like systemd is clinging to that package and won't let it get removed | 15:44 |
| Tenkawa | libnss is libc6 not systemd | 15:44 |
| Tenkawa | thats why I said I didn't like what I saw | 15:45 |
| Tenkawa | apt-cache show libnss-myhostname | grep Depend | 15:46 |
| Tenkawa | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.30) | 15:46 |
| Tenkawa | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.30) | 15:46 |
| NotAlexNoyle | it doesn't seem uninstallable under any circumstances. Even purge fails. | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | indeed | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | its part of the name service | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | ss module providing fallback resolution for the current hostname | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | This package contains a plugin for the Name Service Switch, providing host | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | name resolution for the locally configured system hostname as returned by | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | gethostname(2). It returns all locally configured public IP addresses or -- if | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | none are configured, the IPv4 address 127.0.1.1 (which is on the local | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | loopback) and the IPv6 address ::1 (which is the local host) | 15:47 |
| Tenkawa | it is an essential pkg | 15:47 |
| NotAlexNoyle | so any clue why is apt trying to get rid of it? | 15:48 |
| Tenkawa | no I've not tried to run that document | 15:48 |
| UsL | unixman: thanks for the tip. Btw, that sounds awful. I am so happy we have good ISPs here. | 16:43 |
| unixman | You're welcome, UsL. If I paid for a small business account with the ISP I could get a static address with no restrictions. I just have a consumer account for now. | 16:46 |
| uvok | Hi. Me again, with my LVM problem (volumes not showing in Thunar). Turns out, when I run lsblk -f, the file system type is not listed for the LVM volumes. | 18:42 |
| uvok | So, the Volume Group and Logical Volume is activated, but something's wrong with the underlying device-mapper device (wildly guessing?) | 18:44 |
| uvok | lsblk -f output looks like this https://pastebin.com/VfpQ03qg | 18:47 |
| uvok | And this is the output after runnning vgchange -an; vgchange -ay: https://pastebin.com/mbP7tVie | 18:49 |
| uvok | Funnily enough, my file system root is on an LVM logical volume, and that seems to work properly (otherwise the system wouldn't boot?) | 18:51 |
| Tenkawa | uvok: do they show up with sudo/root or is this just affecting non-root uids ? | 18:58 |
| uvok | The volume group *does* show up as activated, though | 18:58 |
| uvok | I ran lsblk as root | 18:58 |
| Tenkawa | I'm trying to setup a devuan test here.. it all looks ok on my debian box | 18:58 |
| Tenkawa | its only a partial test but it should test a few things | 19:00 |
| uvok | In the process of the dist-upgrade or my attempts to fix the theming issues, eudev was installed. Could this be part of the problem? Wasn't installed on beowulf | 19:06 |
| Tenkawa | worked here | 19:06 |
| Tenkawa | ��vg00-LV1 ext4 1.0 LV1 47a235d8-8f5a-4b90-a1f7-1415b9116bc9 | 19:06 |
| Tenkawa | ��vg00-LV2 swap 1 LV2 2a0b3276-62a4-4634-bb2c-6c69909641cd | 19:06 |
| Tenkawa | ��vg00-LV3 xfs LV3 72ece886-f915-45bd-b263-447b42f0de1c | 19:06 |
| Tenkawa | I named the labels LV1 2 and 3 | 19:07 |
| Tenkawa | very interesting | 19:10 |
| Tenkawa | which vers of devuan you running? | 19:10 |
| uvok | Huh, also, lsblk doesn't show the fstype for the root partition. | 19:12 |
| uvok | Tenkawa, uh, chimaera, current stable, should be updated | 19:12 |
| Tenkawa | definitely sounds like /dev is confused | 19:12 |
| APic | Good that we have udev instead of devfs nowadays ☺ | 19:14 |
| Tenkawa | if it is a desktop I would possibly check to see if (and I don't know if it is even used since I don't run it) gvfs is running | 19:14 |
| Tenkawa | gvfs has a bad habit of taking over and masking things | 19:14 |
| uvok | Oh. but I can mount the affected volumes as root on the command line with mount | 19:19 |
| uvok | That isn't really nice as a user, though | 19:20 |
| uvok | Tenkawa, https://pastebin.com/tC3kgCNt | 19:21 |
| APic | ,o0(umount --lazy) | 19:21 |
| Tenkawa | its very possible gvfs is keeping you from seeing it | 19:22 |
| Tenkawa | gvfs has been known to cause numerous inconsistencies | 19:23 |
| Tenkawa | affects removeable media more but it scans all media | 19:24 |
| uvok | Don't I need it for removble media to be displayed at all in thunar, though? | 19:28 |
| Tenkawa | automaticly yes | 19:29 |
| Tenkawa | you can mount it on your own still though | 19:29 |
| Tenkawa | fstab has an option for removeable media | 19:29 |
| Tenkawa | let me look it up | 19:29 |
| uvok | noauto? | 19:30 |
| user____ | Anyone on waterfox on devuan? /me reads it's now bigger than firefox... | 19:30 |
| uvok | I'm a software developer myself, and yet I'm still surprised how much problems software can cause | 19:30 |
| user____ | lol | 19:30 |
| Tenkawa | noauto and udisks yes | 19:31 |
| jedshop | Hey y'all! What's the easiest way to set up a printer? | 19:33 |
| Tenkawa | udisks2 handle lvm too | 19:33 |
| jedshop | LOVING the new devuan btw. | 19:33 |
| jedshop | So fast/stable. | 19:33 |
| uvok | . /etc/lvm/lvm.conf has "obtain_device_list_from_udev = 1", is this correct? | 19:33 |
| Tenkawa | uvok: not 100% sure on that one | 19:34 |
| jedshop | Under print settings it says start service, or connect. | 19:34 |
| jedshop | I've got a network installed samsung laser printer | 19:34 |
| Tenkawa | jedshop: at first glance it appears to still be cups based | 19:36 |
| Tenkawa | so do a connect to it and it should be able to do the rest | 19:36 |
| jedshop | @Tenkawa, ok... how do I do that? LOL | 19:36 |
| jedshop | Sorry, kinda n00b. | 19:36 |
| Tenkawa | do you know your printer name/ip? | 19:37 |
| jedshop | Just give it the IP address? | 19:37 |
| Tenkawa | yeah | 19:37 |
| jedshop | Is there a quick/easy IP scanner for devuan? | 19:37 |
| Tenkawa | in "theory" it should be able to scan it | 19:37 |
| user____ | also needs service type / port | 19:37 |
| user____ | cupsd will scan it for you normally | 19:37 |
| Tenkawa | user____: I thought cups used bounjour/avahi type scanning | 19:38 |
| user____ | yes | 19:38 |
| Tenkawa | ok he wont need to then | 19:38 |
| Tenkawa | lets try not to overcomplicate :) | 19:38 |
| user____ | Ime the non cupsd device finders are not so good. | 19:38 |
| Tenkawa | if it fails... then we can | 19:39 |
| user____ | Tip: wifi printers mostly default in host / set me up mode, not joined to a network... | 19:39 |
| user____ | Is it a wifi printer? jedshop ? | 19:39 |
| jedshop | no. | 19:39 |
| jedshop | it's hard wired. | 19:39 |
| user____ | Ok. | 19:39 |
| Tenkawa | user____: good q | 19:40 |
| user____ | Then you should be able to browse it in the file manager's "network" tab | 19:40 |
| user____ | jedshop: | 19:40 |
| user____ | And there you'll have IP info and name for it. | 19:40 |
| Tenkawa | jedshop: you will need to do what user____ just said or hook it up to your network | 19:40 |
| Tenkawa | user____: likely when he says hardwired he means usb | 19:41 |
| jedshop | user____, thanks... | 19:41 |
| jedshop | will try | 19:41 |
| user____ | jedshop: usb? | 19:41 |
| Tenkawa | jedshop: usb or lan? | 19:41 |
| jedshop | no, it's ethernet | 19:41 |
| Tenkawa | ok good | 19:41 |
| user____ | ok, do as above | 19:41 |
| jedshop | Network -> Windows Network ? | 19:42 |
| Tenkawa | I have "way" too many local users still on usb | 19:42 |
| jedshop | Unable to mount location | 19:42 |
| user____ | jedshop: the network icon in the file browser | 19:42 |
| gnarface | http://localhost:631/ | 19:42 |
| user____ | here we go to cupsd... | 19:42 |
| jedshop | I'm using MATE. | 19:42 |
| jedshop | does that matter? | 19:43 |
| user____ | no | 19:43 |
| gnarface | http://localhost:631/ is the lowest-level cups interface | 19:43 |
| gnarface | everything else is talking to this, so if you're trying not to overcomplicate things this is how | 19:43 |
| jedshop | that url gives unable to connect | 19:43 |
| gnarface | cupsd has to be running | 19:44 |
| gnarface | or none of this will work anyway | 19:44 |
| jedshop | that could be my issue. | 19:44 |
| jedshop | what's the cli for making cupsd run? And will it autorun after reboot? | 19:44 |
| Tenkawa | afk.. laundry calls yet again | 19:44 |
| gnarface | usually the default is for it to auto-run, so that's weird if it's not | 19:44 |
| gnarface | the cli command would be like any others: /etc/init.d/cups start | 19:44 |
| gnarface | or "service cups start" if you have the redhat wrapper crap installed | 19:45 |
| jedshop | No such file or directory | 19:45 |
| gnarface | not even installed | 19:45 |
| user____ | jedshop: as root | 19:45 |
| gnarface | oh, yea as root, or use sudo | 19:45 |
| jedshop | yeah, that was as root | 19:45 |
| jedshop | apt install cups running.... | 19:46 |
| gnarface | cups has to be not installed, /etc/init.d/cups would have given a permission error instead of not found | 19:46 |
| gnarface | you can still print with lp bare, but only to local printers, not network printers | 19:46 |
| jedshop | bingo.... | 19:46 |
| jedshop | that was my issue. LOL | 19:46 |
| user____ | Now it shows up? | 19:47 |
| gnarface | "missing package(s)" is actually the core problem of a lot of errors | 19:47 |
| user____ | To make service start/not start at boot use update-rc.d jedshop | 19:47 |
| Tenkawa | back | 19:48 |
| gnarface | though to be clear, the default should be that it does start | 19:48 |
| jedshop | Printed a test page! Great success. | 19:48 |
| jedshop | :) | 19:48 |
| jedshop | Thanks guys! | 19:48 |
| user____ | nice | 19:48 |
| jedshop | I'd like to report a bug: The printer test page says debian. LOL | 19:48 |
| gnarface | haha | 19:48 |
| user____ | Yeah, they stole devuan's thunder... | 19:48 |
| jedshop | I'll say. | 19:49 |
| Tenkawa | user____: I'd say that was a devuan pkg maintainer fail actually *duck* | 19:49 |
| jedshop | so much faster/cleaner than debian! I'm going to reboot and make sure everything comes back up. BRB | 19:49 |
| user____ | Tenkawa: it's the garbage shining through between the diamonds ;) | 19:49 |
| * user____ mumbles about windows rebooting habits. *nix never reboots, it only shuts down on power failure... | 19:50 | |
| Tenkawa | user____: I'm one of those odd ones who sees typos instantly too even when he doesn't want to | 19:50 |
| user____ | My current uptime is 25 days due to updates. I do ram sleep (S3) suspend when not using the machine. | 19:51 |
| user____ | *only 25 days | 19:51 |
| user____ | I think on ascii before this beowulf I reached 90ish days | 19:51 |
| jedshop | hexchat worked properly after reboot. | 19:51 |
| user____ | That's a gret benchmark! | 19:52 |
| jedshop | Another weird error: I have to type sudo init 6 even though I'm su. | 19:52 |
| user____ | +a | 19:52 |
| user____ | jedshop: you are root? Type id | 19:52 |
| user____ | What's your uid? | 19:52 |
| jedshop | root | 19:53 |
| user____ | Also, <cough> chatting as root? <cough> | 19:53 |
| user____ | sudo init 6 sounds like something is wrong | 19:53 |
| user____ | Why do you do that again? | 19:53 |
| user____ | You probably want telinit 6 ? | 19:54 |
| jedshop | I'm locally logged in as root | 19:56 |
| jedshop | (on the MATE cli) | 19:56 |
| user____ | telinit is normally a symlink to init but still... | 19:56 |
| user____ | jedshop: so id says you are root? | 19:56 |
| jedshop | yeah. | 19:56 |
| jedshop | uid=0(root) | 19:56 |
| user____ | okay, and if you issue `telinit 6` it won't? | 19:56 |
| jedshop | in the term | 19:56 |
| jedshop | haven't tried yet. Will try... if it works brb | 19:57 |
| user____ | (that's shutdown request probably try something else) | 19:57 |
| jedshop | command not found | 19:57 |
| jedshop | lol | 19:57 |
| user____ | /sbin/telinit 6 | 19:57 |
| user____ | Your $PATH is probably not a login - path | 19:57 |
| user____ | Thanks to Mate... | 19:57 |
| jedshop | ah.... how do I fix that? LOL | 19:58 |
| jedshop | MATE is the best! What u guys use? | 19:58 |
| Tenkawa | devuan... the channel name | 19:58 |
| user____ | You edit the root terminal launcher in MATE so it contains a - in the sudo lie | 19:58 |
| user____ | jedshop: xfce4 | 19:58 |
| Tenkawa | heheh I use no wm | 19:59 |
| user____ | Tenkawa: let me guess, VT100, genuine? | 19:59 |
| Tenkawa | I only use x11 on my desktop with xfce when I use any | 19:59 |
| jedshop | This is the daily driver machine. Not a server. LOL | 19:59 |
| Tenkawa | user____: mostly | 19:59 |
| Tenkawa | user____: or ironicly os x | 20:00 |
| jedshop | I don't see a root terminal launcher. | 20:00 |
| jedshop | I'm just opening the regulare MATE term and typing su | 20:00 |
| jedshop | brb (coffee) | 20:00 |
| user____ | Type su - | 20:00 |
| Tenkawa | jedshop: dont say the c word!!! I am already having to stop myself from refilling my caffeine supply lol | 20:01 |
| uvok | brb, rebooting | 20:01 |
| user____ | Addicts! Upgrade to Mate! The beverage! | 20:01 |
| user____ | <grin> now look what I did there | 20:01 |
| Tenkawa | user____: you know its bad when you drink caffeine more to relax than wake up | 20:02 |
| user____ | Mate desktop has a way to name things after existing words, making it all un-searchable | 20:02 |
| user____ | Tenkawa: In the past, when I was younger, I went up to 8 cups of black Turkish coffee per day. After a certain threshhold the only outcome is you piss a lot more, get dehydrated, and possibly fall asleep. | 20:03 |
| gnarface | alright, glad all your stuff is working, talk about coffee in #devuan-offtopic | 20:04 |
| user____ | Like most tween nerds my main calorie source was Cola sugar for a decade or so. | 20:04 |
| user____ | Yes what gnarface said. | 20:04 |
| jedshop | @Tenkawa, sorry. :D | 20:04 |
| user____ | So jedshop su - not su bare | 20:04 |
| user____ | Compare echo $PATH in one case vs the other. | 20:05 |
| jedshop | ahhhh | 20:05 |
| jedshop | ok will do | 20:05 |
| Tenkawa | you need the - to inherit root's environment vs the environment of the user you just were | 20:05 |
| jedshop | what's a way to test without sending init 6? LOL | 20:06 |
| Tenkawa | just run another command | 20:06 |
| Tenkawa | try env | 20:07 |
| jedshop | Thanks guys! Running great! | 20:07 |
| Tenkawa | that will echo your environment | 20:07 |
| jedshop | bingo.... the env in the term without the - was way different. | 20:07 |
| Tenkawa | indeed | 20:07 |
| jedshop | Is there an easy/fast way to make compiz autoload? /me ducks from heresy | 20:08 |
| uvok | So, neither removing all gvfs packages nor "obtain_device_list_from_udev = 0" changes the behavior. udisksctl info still shows "Error looking up object for device", lsblk still doesn't show the file systems... I kinda loathe installing a fresh system | 20:08 |
| Tenkawa | hmm that almost sounds like /etc/group permissions now | 20:08 |
| Tenkawa | but you said restarting the vg makes it show up | 20:08 |
| Tenkawa | which rules that out | 20:08 |
| uvok | udisksctl doesn't work as root either | 20:09 |
| Tenkawa | oh really? | 20:09 |
| Tenkawa | let me try somethnig | 20:09 |
| Tenkawa | er something | 20:09 |
| Tenkawa | (soon as my fstrim finishes on this 256gb filesystem) | 20:09 |
| Tenkawa | very slow on a microsd on a rpi zero 2 | 20:10 |
| Tenkawa | does udisksctl status show you all of your drives first? | 20:11 |
| Tenkawa | 20:11 | |
| buZz | fstrim on a SD card? O_o | 20:11 |
| buZz | oh you use F2FS ? | 20:11 |
| Tenkawa | buZz: xfs | 20:12 |
| buZz | kinda weird , the blockdevice of a SD card doesnt have trim support, does it? | 20:12 |
| Tenkawa | yes | 20:12 |
| buZz | yes it doesnt? | 20:12 |
| Tenkawa | it does have | 20:12 |
| Tenkawa | /boot: 213.3 MiB (223608832 bytes) trimmed on /dev/mmcblk0p1 | 20:12 |
| Tenkawa | /: 217.4 GiB (233413132288 bytes) trimmed on /dev/mmcblk0p2 | 20:12 |
| buZz | ah, some do, most dont | 20:13 |
| buZz | and its not in spec so not even guaranteed to work properly | 20:13 |
| Tenkawa | no.. some "interfaces" don't | 20:13 |
| Tenkawa | you are thinking of usb | 20:13 |
| Tenkawa | not many usb do | 20:13 |
| buZz | try a reboot , and then do fstrim again | 20:13 |
| buZz | you probably get the same numbers | 20:13 |
| Tenkawa | buZz: nope | 20:13 |
| buZz | then dont, fine by me :P | 20:14 |
| uvok | Tenkawa, yes, udisksctl status shows both HDDs and one M.2 / NVME drive | 20:14 |
| Tenkawa | buZz: I've done it 40-50 times already | 20:14 |
| Tenkawa | on this card in the last 2 weeks' | 20:14 |
| buZz | and you keep getting almost-whole-card as trimmed? :D | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | uvok: does dump show you any details? | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | buZz: no. | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | even doing it multiple times on my x86 nvme drives are going to act similar | 20:17 |
| Tenkawa | you can't go by just those numbers | 20:17 |
| Tenkawa | I just ran 2 on my nvme drive and they came back identical | 20:17 |
| buZz | that shouldnt be the case :) | 20:18 |
| jedshop | virtualbox throws a very helpful error. XD | 20:18 |
| Tenkawa | that indicates nothing.. like I said | 20:18 |
| Tenkawa | uvok: if dump shows a tree of details I'm curious | 20:19 |
| uvok | dump shows all the "ordinary" partitions, drives/disks... and also my RAID volume (mdraid) | 20:19 |
| Tenkawa | does it populate as... | 20:19 |
| Tenkawa | just a sec | 20:19 |
| Tenkawa | /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices or something else? | 20:20 |
| uvok | Whole output: https://pastebin.com/Yp72Mv9U | 20:21 |
| buZz | running it twice on a raid0 of two SSDs; https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/anitutucen | 20:21 |
| uvok | OH! | 20:22 |
| uvok | dpkg -l '*udisk*' | 20:22 |
| uvok | un udisks2-lvm2 <none> <none> (no description available) | 20:22 |
| Tenkawa | oh | 20:22 |
| Tenkawa | that could be a problem | 20:22 |
| uvok | It seems it was never installed before, though | 20:23 |
| Tenkawa | ok I got a bit more on this trim.. let me try the 256gb drive again | 20:24 |
| uvok | On the other hand, it's weird that udisks seems to register a manual vgchange toggle... | 20:25 |
| Tenkawa | before 233413132288 after 233875628032 after on the microsd | 20:35 |
| Tenkawa | so its definitely trimmingt the microsd | 20:35 |
| buZz | rofl | 20:35 |
| Tenkawa | why are you laughing? | 20:35 |
| buZz | because you arent reading the docs :P | 20:36 |
| Tenkawa | what is your point? | 20:36 |
| buZz | and thus misinterpreting the data | 20:36 |
| buZz | 20:21:10 < buZz> running it twice on a raid0 of two SSDs; https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/anitutucen | 20:36 |
| Tenkawa | yes that was after 2 runs | 20:36 |
| buZz | ^ you would read that and assume trim -isnt- working? :D | 20:36 |
| Tenkawa | you are the one that keeps saying microsd cant be trimmed | 20:37 |
| buZz | then post what fstrim -v / gives you first and second run :) | 20:38 |
| buZz | because you just said > 20:35:13 < Tenkawa> before 233413132288 after 233875628032 after on the microsd | 20:38 |
| Tenkawa | I just did | 20:38 |
| Tenkawa | I was trying to avoid spamming | 20:38 |
| buZz | so, you think that 'being able to trim 233GB twice' means it is working? | 20:39 |
| brocashelm | you can try dpaste.org for pastes | 20:39 |
| brocashelm | and then just link back | 20:39 |
| Tenkawa | brocashelm: I know plenty of paste sites. | 20:40 |
| jedshop | anybody successfully install vbox guest additions? | 20:47 |
| jedshop | I keep getting "Cannot open display" | 20:47 |
| jedshop | when I ./autorun.sh | 20:47 |
| gnarface | http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2842 | 20:49 |
| jedshop | nm.... think I got it. | 20:51 |
| gnarface | i don't remember the details but there's known issues | 20:51 |
| jedshop | had to run caja as root and make the file executable. Duh | 20:52 |
| jedshop | Hmmm Not sure how to browse the shared folder in vbox. | 21:00 |
| jedshop | clicking on the windows network under directory gives: Failed to retrieve share list from directory: no such file or folder | 21:01 |
| jedshop | maybe I need samba? | 21:01 |
| vladomiro | Hello. I'm not able to configure keyboard for spanish lainamerican ("latam"). Do you know how to do it on ibus? | 21:01 |
| gnarface | jedshop: you would need at least smbclient | 21:01 |
| gnarface | jedshop: or a filesystem driver you can pass to the mount command (cifs now?) | 21:02 |
| user____ | ibus? | 21:02 |
| gnarface | vladomiro: apt-get install locales && dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration | 21:03 |
| gnarface | vladomiro: (can't guess what ibus is or how it fits in here) | 21:03 |
| jedshop | apt install samba brought it up, but still not seeing the vbox shared folder. | 21:03 |
| gnarface | a full-blown samba install might need some manual configuration changes to work | 21:04 |
| gnarface | it's been a long time since i've done it but some pitfalls i remember being: make sure the network matches, make sure the workgroup matches, make sure the username matches and make sure the password matches | 21:04 |
| jedshop | hmmmm | 21:05 |
| jedshop | Was hoping for something simpler than all that. :'( | 21:05 |
| gnarface | i never bother to mess with that, i just usually to individual mounts by command-line with mount | 21:05 |
| user____ | jedshop: "create a shared folder" ... https://averagelinuxuser.com/virtualbox-shared-folder/ | 21:05 |
| gnarface | that's easier to me but for you it might be a toss-up | 21:05 |
| gnarface | oh, yea you could just in theory share a folder with everyone, that should work | 21:06 |
| gnarface | but if you're accessing assigned folders you have to make sure the samba username and the unix username match | 21:06 |
| gnarface | (case sensitively!) | 21:06 |
| vladomiro | gnarface: the local and the keyboard layout is ok, but it seems that ibus is the instance that gives the keyboard layout, and it is using another keyboard layout, es for Spain, it's a slightly different from latinamerican keyboard layout | 21:09 |
| vladomiro | I'm using xfce | 21:10 |
| gnarface | if you change the configuration with "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" does ibus ignore that config, or does ibus work then the local keyboard is wrong? | 21:14 |
| gnarface | this might be an ibus specific issue and i'm not familiar with ibus | 21:15 |
| vladomiro | gnarface: ibus ignore the config | 21:28 |
| uvok | Tenkawa, Thanks so much for your help so far :) | 21:29 |
| gnarface | vladomiro: gotta be something specific to ibus then. i'm not sure how to fix it but the keyboard mapping is just a file in /etc/console or /etc/console-setup i think, maybe ibus has it's own spot for a custom keyboard mapping? | 21:31 |
| gnarface | s/it's/its/ | 21:32 |
| gnarface | vladomiro: if you can find it you can probably just copy or symlink to the other one | 21:35 |
| vladomiro | ok, i'll take a look | 21:35 |
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