libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2021-11-17

KittyOk, I got a fun dependency thing12:34
KittyI want to install ipmitool12:34
Kittyapt-get install ipmitool wants to include mariadb-common and mysql-common. And I can see no reason why these should be in there12:34
Kittyapt-rdepends ipmitool does not list mariadb-common12:35
Kittyor mysql-common12:35
KittyI can't see any of the packages involved having a dependency on these packages12:35
Kittyhow do I work out why apt wants to install the m?12:35
Kittyaah, it's libsnmp30 that is depending on it12:40
Kittylibsnmp40 does not...12:40
Kittyoh well, time to move from beowulf anyhow12:47
Kittywith the new apt it removes old kernels, the readme mentions setting APT::Get::AutomaticRemove::Kernels to false. BUt I can't see any obvious way to do this ?13:17
GyrosGeierKitty, in /etc/apt/apt.conf or a fragment in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d14:23
GyrosGeierthe apt.conf(5) manpage should describe it14:23
KittyI stuck it in /etc/apt/apt.conf which was empty14:30
Kittythanks GyrosGeier14:54
Zgredu[m]Are there any guides on installing Devuan on software RAID?17:17
GyrosGeiersame as Debian, I think17:19
Zgredu[m]I have no idea what I'm doing, don't know what you mean17:19
GyrosGeierit's a tiny bit annoying, bootable software RAID is tricky17:20
GyrosGeierthere is a partition type "physical device for MD"17:20
GyrosGeierand a menu entry "configure MD" or similar in the partition editor17:21
GyrosGeierthe difficulty is getting it bootable from any disk17:22
GyrosGeierand there are no good solutions for that even in the year 202117:22
Zgredu[m]I'm posting from Matrix, will you be able to see images if I send them here?17:23
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GyrosGeierfor MBR based boot with grub, it should work to create one big partition on each disk, use that as physical volume for MD, then configure MD to set up the RAID on top, then partition the RAID and install on top of that17:24
GyrosGeierthe grub install then goes into the space behind the partition table, and grub understands software RAID17:25
GyrosGeierfor EFI based boot, things are more difficult17:25
Zgredu[m]I need EFI unfortunately17:26
GyrosGeierI'd probably create one ESP on each disk17:26
GyrosGeierbut there is no good way to keep them synchronized17:27
Zgredu[m]ESP?17:27
Zgredu[m]Oh, nvm17:28
GyrosGeierthere is a nasty hack where you create the ESP on a RAID1 that has been created with 1.0 superblock format18:39
GyrosGeierwhich puts the RAID superblock at the end, beyond what the file system will read18:39
[NoClan]GoAwaygreetings.18:42
[NoClan]GoAwayshort feedback in regards to the "xen-balloon" process taking up all cpu cycles...18:43
[NoClan]GoAwaywith Devuan 5.0 testing the issues sems to be gone, the VM using 5.0 is running as expected.18:43
[NoClan]GoAwayanother slight problem though: the "de_DE@euro" locale is missing in the dpkg-reconfigure dialog...only the UTF8 ones are available...18:44
[NoClan]GoAwayis there a workaround for that?18:44
user282069how can i associate magnet links in the links2 browser? >_<18:45
user282069is funny if other ppl here surfing on links2 ;;; but ye18:45
user282069setting the mime type to 'application/magnet' or anything else i can think of to try all fail18:46
GyrosGeier[NoClan]GoAway, I think that should be called "de_DE.ISO-8859-15"20:08
GyrosGeiererm20:08
GyrosGeiernot sure about the hyphens20:08
GyrosGeierbut @something are variants, and "having an euro sign" is not a variant20:09
[NoClan]GoAwayhm...maybe. yet in the 3.1 release it's called "de_DE@euro"20:16
[NoClan]GoAwaystop... I just looked again, you're right. sorry.20:17
[NoClan]GoAwayit's "de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15"20:17
[NoClan]GoAwayI copied it from the "locale" output on the command line, that one says "de_DE@euro"20:17
[NoClan]GoAwayso, yeah, probably the sameyet named in a different way20:18
[NoClan]GoAwaysince 5.0 is working as intended it's pretty sad that the locale is missing.20:18
[NoClan]GoAwayfist the kernel in 4.0 is bugged, the backports one didn't help either, now 5.0 does what it should and the locale is missing...20:19
[NoClan]GoAway*first20:25
[NoClan]GoAway_a "edit /etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen as root" did the trick, if anyone encounters asimilar problem.20:42
[NoClan]GoAway_solved through the help of #devuan-dev20:42
[NoClan]GoAway_and gnu_srs120:42
rwp[NoClan]GoAway, Re locale config: I have this scripted for provisioning new machines. https://paste.debian.net/1219876/21:05
[NoClan]GoAwaythanks. that'll come in handy :)21:06
FilipZHi!21:24
FilipZHow can I disable the super key shortcut?21:25
FilipZSo the windows wouldn't minimize on clicking it.21:25
gnarfacexmodmap maybe?21:27
gnarfaceor something window-manager-specific21:28
FilipZgnarface: I am just trying to make use out of it22:44
FilipZHow can I find out what exactly keyboard I use22:44
FilipZIt is one in the Dell Inspiron 15 756722:45
gnarfaceFilipZ: are you trying to disable a key on the keyboard or change the whole keyboard mapping?  if the keyboard doesn't show up in lsusb i don't know how to tell what mapping it uses, but dell's website might say22:47
gnarfaceFilipZ: you can find out what signal a particular key is sending with xev22:47
gnarfacethere might be a gui tool in your window manager to handle keyboard configuration, i don't know22:48
gnarfacexmodmap is for changing individual keys, but if you want to change the whole mapping you'd use "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" (and probably "dpkg-reconfigure locales" too)22:48
FilipZgnarface: I would like to just disable that window minimizing on the Super key23:11
gnarfaceFilipZ: there might be a window manager setting for that, specific to the window manager you installed (i think xfce if you don't know what it is)23:18
gnarfaceFilipZ: it might be an optional panel you have to install, not sure23:18
gnarfaceFilipZ: hang out though, people around here know xfce way better than me23:18
onefangFirst thing is to tell us what window manager you use.23:19
[NoClan]GoAwaymaybe a "top" or even "htop" could help determine that23:26
gnarfacethis should work too: update-alternatives --display x-window-manager23:28
onefangOr pstree.  Or what gnarface just said.23:28
[NoClan]GoAwayhm, even better :)23:31
[NoClan]GoAwaythe first idea was a "ps uax |grep window" (or "X") but then this might not even work ^^23:32
onefangThat would find openbox ,the one I use, nor xfce, the default.23:32
onefang"update-alternatives --display x-window-manager" works well, though also shows any others you might have installed.  I didn't know I had one called marco installed, part of MATE which I did have installed.23:33
onefangThat WOULDN1T find openbox ,the one I use, nor xfce, the default. I meant to say.  lol23:34
onefangThat WOULDN'T find openbox ,the one I use, nor xfce, the default. I meant to say.  lol  Damn typoes.23:34
[NoClan]GoAwaywell, the command works well. it shows me I'm running iceWM23:47
[NoClan]GoAwaytoo bad something's broken with iceWM though. the themes are not showing the colors and background images correctly.23:47
[NoClan]GoAwayI guess some thingschanged from 2011 to 2021 in regards to the theme configs23:48
[NoClan]GoAway*some things changed23:48
[NoClan]GoAwayand no, don't ask how I know about things from 2011...23:50
critrdconf-tools isn't in devuan any more?23:57
gnarfaceprobably just repackaged, try "apt-cache search ^dconf"23:59
critrok23:59

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