| mmlj4 | it's been years since I used any debian-derived distro... is chkconfig no longer a thing? I have sysvinit, how do I enable/disable services? chmod +-x /etc/init.d/$service ? | 00:13 |
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| hagbard | some can be disabled/enabled per configuration in /etc/default | 00:16 |
| hagbard | otherwise I'd remove the symlinks for the runlevels i would want to disable it for | 00:17 |
| hagbard | /etc/rc0.d and so on | 00:18 |
| gnarface | mmlj4: try sysv-rc-conf, it's popular lately | 00:21 |
| gnarface | mmlj4: (altering the symlinks by hand still works) | 00:24 |
| mmlj4 | sysv-rc-conf looks like it'll work, thanks | 01:16 |
| cyteen | @Hydragyrum: Add contrib to your sources.list and apt install spl-dkms zfs-dkms zfsutils-linux linux-headers-amd64 | 01:42 |
| Hydragyrum | ah contrib must be the thing I was missing | 01:43 |
| Hydragyrum | thanks cyteen | 01:43 |
| * Xenguy queues up the last recap of the last world chess championship (WCC) game... | 03:00 | |
| av6 | i thought update-rc.d was the recommended way to enable/disable services | 06:49 |
| onefang | Try sysv-rc-conf for yourself. It tends to get recommended around here. I use it. | 06:56 |
| gnarface | update-rc.d works too but it isn't very user friendly | 08:01 |
| FatPhil | djph: after upload, just check that it's an image type, create a thumbnail and update an index page, otherwise delete it. | 11:19 |
| aplainzetakind | I connected a second monitor that is 4K to my 1080p laptop. arandr works, I can set resolutions and relative positions. However, it works like the monitors are portions of one single huge virtual monitor (for instance if I fullscreen a client half of it is on the 4K and the top quarter on the other half is on the laptop. Why is this and how can I change this? | 11:40 |
| aplainzetakind | arandr shows a tinted rectangle encompassing the two rectangles of the screens, so I think this stems from the system and not the wm. | 11:41 |
| FatPhil | xrandr doesn't do that for me, so assuming arandr uses xrandr the same way I do on the console, it's probably the WM who's giving duff information about how big "full screen" is. I use DWM. | 12:08 |
| aplainzetakind | I use xmonad, I'll ask them then. | 12:11 |
| FatPhil | you could also try dropping back to just the xrandr command line and see if you can trick it into behaving differently | 12:12 |
| aplainzetakind | FatPhil: I don't know what parameters to fiddle with really. | 12:20 |
| aplainzetakind | Should I dive into xorg config? Must I have two distinct displays to send to the two monitors or is that not necessary? | 12:25 |
| LapPhil | aplainzetakind: I use these two aliases: | 12:44 |
| LapPhil | alias xmonoff='xrandr --output HDMI1 --off' | 12:44 |
| LapPhil | alias xmonon='xrandr --output HDMI1 --left-of eDP-1 --preferred' | 12:44 |
| FatPhil | HDMI1 being my external monitor, and eDP-1 being the lappy panel, obviously your names will vary | 12:45 |
| LapPhil | to find out what they're known as, do: xrandr -q | 12:45 |
| aplainzetakind | FatPhil, LapPhil: Same behaviour, portions of one huge "screen". | 13:26 |
| FatPhil | Maybe pop up another X in another vc and start a dwm in it. It is a "window" problem, so blaming the window manager seems not the wildest stab in the dark. | 13:28 |
| aplainzetakind | But that would be a pointless workaround because I would have to run separate instances of the wm and sending the clients to the other monitor etc. would not work. | 13:36 |
| FatPhil | not as a solution, as a way of investigating which component is causing the problem. | 13:42 |
| FatPhil | just change one thing until you find the change that's important. | 13:42 |
| aplainzetakind | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63887202/xrandr-two-screens-different-resolution-without-invisible-area this suggests drivers could be the culprit. I have i915 and nouveau. I don't know which one X is currently using, but I'd like to try switching it around to see if anything changes. How can I do that. | 14:27 |
| hagbard | libfluidsynth-dev depends on libsystemd-dev. Do we have to fork it to remove that dependency? | 15:33 |
| Guest10 | Hello, i have a question about Devuan installation, can anybody help? | 15:46 |
| LapPhil | aplainzetakind: my x240 is "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)", but lsmod says an i915 is loaded, not sure how i915 relates to the various different vga hardware. | 15:50 |
| LapPhil | Guest10: just ask your question | 15:50 |
| Guest10 | The installation currently asks about which "software collections" to install. There are "web server", "console productivity", "SSH server" and "standard system utilities" options. I would like to know a list of software included in these collections. Is it available anywhere? | 15:54 |
| LapPhil | now that's a good question! | 15:54 |
| LapPhil | I've always just said no to them all and installed stuff when I need it, as every time I've signed up for a package deal I've got so much cruft i've spent hours purging afterwards! | 15:55 |
| LapPhil | you can probably sniff around with apt-cache show, as that lists dependencies | 15:56 |
| LapPhil | this looks like a goodplace to start: apt-cache search ^task- | 15:57 |
| LapPhil | and ``apt-cache show task-console-productivity'' yields ``Recommends: dialog, zsh, entr, gddrescue, gdisk, htop, iftop, iotop, iw, mtr-tiny, multitail, ncdu, parted, pciutils, psmisc, sudo, time ...'' | 15:58 |
| LapPhil | So thank you very much for the question, I've learnt something today! | 16:00 |
| Guest10 | I was actually thinking about installing these collections because i don't know if a functionality i have in mind would be available otherwise. Is removing software that troublesome in Linux? I'm not really familiar with Linux and the installation i am currently in the process of is intended to be more of a learning exercise. | 16:07 |
| av6 | also apt-get install --assume-no (or --simulate) task-foo | 16:18 |
| av6 | this way it includes all dependencies recursively, including (or excluding, based on your config) recommended packages | 16:19 |
| fsmithred | aptitude search ~prequired | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | aptitude search ~pstandard | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | standard = standard system utilities | 16:21 |
| fsmithred | some like to un-check that at the tasksel window and some like to keep it. | 16:21 |
| brocashelm | is there a devuan-based distro that ships with calamares as its installer? or a way to replace the default installer with it if i'm making my own spin? | 16:24 |
| brocashelm | found one so far: https://sourceforge.net/projects/devuanlxde/ | 16:25 |
| fsmithred | brocashelm, it's in the repo | 16:32 |
| fsmithred | brocashelm, if you're reading docs, I'd like a recap some time. | 17:17 |
| bb|hcb | FatPhil: About running a command on file change (regardless if the change came over ssh, locally or via something else), there is a universal way - inotify; ping me private, I can give a bash example... | 19:04 |
| aplainzetakind | So I think my problem is that my two monitors belong to the same screen, as demonstrated by the xrandr output http://dpaste.com//GK4YFZTSS I tried to put together an xorg conf to have two screens without really knowing what I'm doing but that also had no effect http://dpaste.com//68P3DQECT | 22:07 |
| aplainzetakind | Any ideas? | 22:07 |
| rrq | maybe adding a line 'option "Xinerama" "0"' into ServerLayout has some effect? | 22:14 |
| rrq | aplainzetakind: there seems to be a separate solution path by using the environment variable SDL_VIDEO_FULLSCREEN_HEAD, and set that to 0, 1 or 2 (I guess meaning first monitor, second monitor or both) | 22:34 |
| aplainzetakind | Let me try the Xinerama option. | 22:55 |
| aplainzetakind | No joy. | 23:02 |
| aplainzetakind | Is there a way to get the current config X is running with? | 23:04 |
| aplainzetakind | These changes only made my mouse pointer huge for some reason, and had no other effect. | 23:05 |
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