| aplainzetakind | https://dpaste.com//8YZJS6Z59 This is grepping dmesg for nouveau. What should I do to have it function? | 00:05 |
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| blastwave | Hello. I am trying to disable the graphical login screen on my chimera system. I can do CTRL-ALT F4 and then I see a blank screen with a flashing cursor but no prompt. Is there a better way than for me to mess with /etc/inittab ? | 00:51 |
| debdog | blastwave: try F2 instead | 01:09 |
| debdog | wait, are talking about the installer or an installed system? | 01:09 |
| debdog | you might disable the display manager at boot time. | 01:11 |
| debdog | if it's an installed system and F4 brings you to an unusable console, it is something new I am not familiar with | 01:13 |
| blastwave | installed system is up and running now | 01:21 |
| blastwave | yes .. the CTRL ALT F4 gives me a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner and no login prompt | 01:21 |
| debdog | huh | 01:24 |
| blastwave | has to be a screw up on my part here | 01:24 |
| blastwave | I am checking my linux kernel command line | 01:24 |
| debdog | just checked on my other computer, the one with chimaera on it, and it works there. so, sorry, that's something I am not familiar with and I have no idea. just stick about, others will be more helpful | 01:26 |
| blastwave | I am sure it is something I borked up | 01:28 |
| onefang | Sounds like you disabled CTRL ALT F4 in /etc/inittab when you messed with it. F1 - F6 have text terminals by default, so should show you a login prompt. | 01:31 |
| blastwave | yes .. I am looking at inittab now | 01:34 |
| blastwave | # The default runlevel. <-- I changed this to id:3:initdefault: | 01:34 |
| blastwave | it was 2 for some reason | 01:35 |
| debdog | I'd stick with 2 | 01:35 |
| blastwave | I always though 2 was multi-user but no graphics | 01:35 |
| blastwave | all I really wanted was to disable the graphical login | 01:35 |
| blastwave | the machine will never have a user directly in front of it | 01:36 |
| debdog | https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel | 01:36 |
| blastwave | however people may sshe in ( students ) and expect X11 libs to be there | 01:36 |
| debdog | just disable the display manager at boot time, that'S what I did to get rid of it | 01:37 |
| blastwave | debdog: right. that looks familar except in the old Sun world we have init5 was power off and init 2 was multi-user but no graphics | 01:37 |
| debdog | ok, a server like thingy. and it should be forbidden to start X while still having X related files installed | 01:43 |
| debdog | , right? | 01:43 |
| debdog | if this is the case I'd go after the graphical drivers. blacklist them, or such. dunno how secure it has to be if students play with it | 01:46 |
| debdog | but I am a noob, there might be better options | 01:47 |
| blastwave | well, this is a hack around and throw around machine. If a student can hack the machine and cause it to crash then I would be impressed. Not very likely. The idea of "vi" and using putty on Windows is currently a big challenge. | 01:48 |
| debdog | hehe | 01:48 |
| blastwave | except for one guy who does know a few things. However I can likely restrict how memory he can mallo/calloc and also restrict number of threads per user | 01:49 |
| debdog | ok, so just X shouldn't be started by default? then disable display manager in /etc/rc.2 (assuming runlevel is 2) | 01:51 |
| debdog | by renaming its link from S$something to K$something | 01:51 |
| blastwave | right .. the good ol init way. | 01:51 |
| blastwave | that is the most easy I guess | 01:52 |
| blastwave | if this machine boots and has SSHd and a very very few other things running then I am happy | 01:52 |
| blastwave | the last thing to do is to set some limits in /etc/sysctl.conf and perhaps then run a few tests where I try to calloc multiple GB of mem and also toss out an unreasonable number of threads for a given userid | 01:54 |
| Afdal | I see none of the major Audacity forks made it into Chimaera repo :c | 09:30 |
| Afdal | ... yet? | 09:30 |
| blastwave | good day. new problem. I am trying to prevent users fomr being able to utter a bash fork bomb. I edited /etc/security/limits.conf and did set "devl hard nproc 256" where the devl is a developer group of ordinary users. However a member of that group can still do a fork bomb and the load goes up to insane levels | 11:10 |
| blastwave | the machine has not crashed but it sure it overlaoded | 11:10 |
| blastwave | is there a way to prevent a user from doing this sort of stupid denial of service hack ? | 11:11 |
| blastwave | drat .. maybe I need to precede the groupname with "@" | 11:17 |
| Centurion_Dan | blastwave: cgroups provides a potentially more potent means for resource control. | 12:03 |
| blastwave | I have to read up on that. At the moment I did put in the correct limits for a group "@devl" but now no user can ssh in and I only see "exec request failed on channel 0" | 12:10 |
| blastwave | I have no idea why that happens and there is confusing information all over the place | 12:10 |
| blastwave | doing " lsof /dev/pts/* " tells me nothing as there is nothing happening on the server. There is maybe six things running | 12:11 |
| systemdlete | I'm going to figure this question has been asked 8000 times already. I'm currently using wifi on my laptop, with the wicd panel applet. However, I'm having trouble connecting to a comcast xfinity hot spot. It seems xfinity wants TTLS and GTC, but I have tried all the options available. The closest seems to be TTLS+WEP but I'm fearful of WEP due to its history (a bit ancient, but I've steered | 14:01 |
| systemdlete | clear of it for ages). | 14:01 |
| buZz | you can add network types to wicd in some config files | 14:02 |
| systemdlete | What I want to know is if there is a way to get wicd to work for this, or if network manager might be better? In the past, nm has had its share of problems (but then again, so has wicd) | 14:02 |
| buZz | i added WPA-Enterprise to it once | 14:02 |
| buZz | afaik nm requires systemd? | 14:02 |
| buZz | not sure though | 14:02 |
| systemdlete | buZz, nm is avail in the repos, so... | 14:02 |
| buZz | /etc/wicd/encryption/templates/peap-mschapv2 | 14:02 |
| systemdlete | (package is called network-manager and includes daemons and client tools) | 14:03 |
| buZz | maybe you need to add some file in that folder to describe the GTC (whatever that may be) network type | 14:03 |
| systemdlete | I see peap-mschapv2 in the dropdown list already | 14:03 |
| buZz | thats fine, it wasnt a option (as wpa enterprise) when i wrote this :P | 14:03 |
| buZz | oh you mean EAP-TTLS | 14:03 |
| buZz | seems you EAP-TTLS and EAP-GTC are mutually exclusive? | 14:04 |
| buZz | -you | 14:04 |
| buZz | systemdlete: is there no PEAP-GTC in your wicd? | 14:05 |
| systemdlete | Yes, PEAP with GTC is there | 14:05 |
| systemdlete | I tried it. | 14:05 |
| buZz | all GTC is PEAP wrapped, it seems | 14:05 |
| systemdlete | buZz, shit. I quit the browser and restarted it. This time, it takes me to the xfinity login page | 14:07 |
| * systemdlete slaps his head | 14:07 | |
| systemdlete | So before, | 14:07 |
| systemdlete | I could connect, but firefox complained that it couldn't trust the page when I clicked on the button that appears at the top of the browser telling you you have to log in first | 14:07 |
| systemdlete | but if I quit the browser and restart firefox, I can click on that same button and it takes me to the xfinity page. | 14:08 |
| buZz | lol | 14:08 |
| buZz | captive hotspots , wtf is this , 1996? :D | 14:08 |
| systemdlete | that's kind of sad, actually | 14:08 |
| systemdlete | yeah | 14:08 |
| systemdlete | 1906 | 14:08 |
| systemdlete | horse and buggies | 14:08 |
| buZz | why cant you use normal hardware with that ISP? | 14:08 |
| systemdlete | ??? | 14:08 |
| buZz | like a mikrotik or ubiquity | 14:09 |
| buZz | or even tplink , linksys, whatever | 14:09 |
| systemdlete | not familiar with those | 14:09 |
| systemdlete | those don't work? | 14:09 |
| buZz | why dont they? | 14:09 |
| systemdlete | (I wouldn't know) | 14:09 |
| buZz | oh | 14:09 |
| systemdlete | oh | 14:09 |
| systemdlete | no idea | 14:09 |
| buZz | i mean , why use 'comcast xfinity' hardware if its so horrible to work with :P | 14:09 |
| systemdlete | I'm not using any xfinity hardware here... | 14:10 |
| buZz | yes you are? > However, I'm having trouble connecting to a comcast xfinity hot spot. | 14:10 |
| systemdlete | I'm not, really. | 14:10 |
| buZz | the hotspot doesnt exist? | 14:10 |
| systemdlete | I have my own modem, a netgear CM400 | 14:10 |
| systemdlete | the hotspot is in a building next to mine | 14:10 |
| systemdlete | buZz, I live in an apt complex. My apt is adjacent to the manager's office where they sport a xfinity hotspot for their "computer center" (as if anyone needs such a thing these days) | 14:11 |
| buZz | it seems my entire spam inbox depends on such locations | 14:12 |
| systemdlete | they have a couple of (outdated of course) PCs, a printer and (I think, iirc) a fax machine | 14:12 |
| systemdlete | Get this: The page says I can login automatically next time by clicking the button that says: | 14:13 |
| systemdlete | "Yes, I have Windows 10" | 14:13 |
| systemdlete | what a bunch of... | 14:14 |
| systemdlete | googins | 14:14 |
| systemdlete | the only reason I am connecting to it is to compare performance with my own wireless here in the apt | 14:15 |
| buZz | ^_^ | 14:17 |
| systemdlete | anyway, no where does it prompt me to login! | 14:19 |
| systemdlete | so I am wondering wtf they are asking me to do here. | 14:19 |
| pingpongball | Does devuan allows installing gnome de? i mean recommended | 15:10 |
| pingpongball | i love gnome | 15:11 |
| pingpongball | i dont know if it is against , or break system in future? | 15:11 |
| brocashelm | pingpongball: it should be possible with the metapackage gnome | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | yes, people run gnome in devuan, and yes, gnome (and gtk) will break more stuff in the future. That's what they do. | 15:32 |
| brocashelm | i do know that cinnamon and kde plasma are broken on ceres (on multiple machines tried), but then again, they weren't the original desktop environments installed | 16:34 |
| brocashelm | mate, lxde, and lxqt worked fine | 16:34 |
| fsmithred | devuan-LXDE is pushing SolarWinds??? | 17:13 |
| fsmithred | I spelled that respin's name wrong. | 17:15 |
| brocashelm | where did you see that? | 17:17 |
| brocashelm | i just realized calamares-settings-debian is a separate package and is not pulled by calamares alone, but the former pulls calamares if you install it. now it makes sense why i couldn't get it to work | 17:17 |
| Guest-12345678 | sorry for being obtuse but how do I start a service like iwd with runit | 18:07 |
| Guest-12345678 | or if some could kindly point me to a guid? | 18:07 |
| * Guest-12345678 oh wow xorg is force closing on me | 18:11 | |
| Guest-12345678 | are there any known issues with the net installer ? | 18:17 |
| golinux | Guest-12345678: Mostly from the chair to keyboard | 18:18 |
| fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716 | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | too bad they left | 18:31 |
| fsmithred | runit discussion ^^^ | 18:31 |
| Cenbe | How do you pronounce Devuan? | 23:55 |
| golinux | Devone | 23:58 |
| Cenbe | Like dev-one? accent on first syllable? | 23:59 |
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