| xrogaan | I am seeing sysvinit 3.0 in devuan backports channel. Any idea of the improvement it introduce? | 07:20 |
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| rwp | xrogaan, For the recent sysvinit release see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-init-diversity/2021-December/004769.html | 08:22 |
| xrogaan | Thanks. That list if full of spam. | 08:40 |
| rwp | Yes. They don't anti-spam the list. :-( | 08:54 |
| rwp | But that message itself hopefully shed some light on your question. | 08:55 |
| rwp | I don't think it has any benefit for users but perhaps for a developer who wants to poke at the pidof function then maybe. | 08:55 |
| rrq | compared to 2.96-7+devuan2, it's possibly note worthy that "shutdown +0" was fixed, and the introduction of the inittab.d/ directory with *.tab files ... | 08:59 |
| rwp | Does anyone say anything other than "shutdown -r now" when interactive? Or "shutdown -r +20"? | 09:05 |
| rwp | I thought the +0 was due to some program which calculated the time and so it was +$time or something and tripped on the problem. (I don't really know. I just assume.) | 09:06 |
| rwp | And so if you haven't hit this problem yet then you probably won't. | 09:07 |
| rrq | there was the DNG thread about "shutdown +0" being the encoding used in "virsh" for (failing) shutting down a VM | 09:12 |
| rrq | (due to buggy implementation in "shutdown") | 09:12 |
| rwp | I guess if you have experienced that problem then try the backport and it should fix it. | 09:13 |
| rrq | yes.. then I think there's something new wrt scanning unit files and proposing corresponding init scripting ... | 09:14 |
| dm16 | hi, I get a certificate error when browsing to https://deb.devuan.org/merged. I seem to have landed on https://sledjhamr.org/ mirror. NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID, because Subject: sledjhamr.org is not deb.devuan.org. My browser forces https, since HSTS is enabled. | 11:08 |
| dm16 | Somehow, because everyone can mirror, and it is unfeasable to manage certificate keys this way, https schould be only optional and HSTS should be disabled no? | 11:10 |
| onefang | Correct. Don't use https on deb.devuan.org. | 11:15 |
| onefang | You can use https on sledjhamr.org though. | 11:15 |
| onefang | HSTS should be disabled, I have a TODO item to check that on all the package mirrors. | 11:16 |
| bb|hcb | dm16: Try browsing https://devuan.org - that will remove the HSTS | 11:17 |
| dm16 | Thank you, that was my point, that HSTS is a slight inconvenience that can be removed. That's all:) Happy Holidays soon | 11:17 |
| bb|hcb | more precisely it will update the HSTS header which formerly included includeSubdomains | 11:17 |
| * onefang goes back to cooking dinner. | 11:18 | |
| pingpongball | Is there any devuan emoji? | 11:48 |
| pingpongball | I want to put on my github . | 11:48 |
| pingpongball | to show eltist attitude | 11:48 |
| pingpongball | it is fine if debian too | 11:48 |
| Afdal | Hay guise what's the dealio with the Chimaera repo missing Qalculate! even though it has the command line version of it, qalc? | 11:55 |
| Afdal | Apparently it's missing from Debian Bullseye as well | 11:55 |
| Afdal | even though Debian used to have it | 11:55 |
| raindodger | Wait a second | 12:05 |
| raindodger | I just a thought of something | 12:05 |
| raindodger | Chimaera is based on Bullesye and Daedalus is based on Bookworm | 12:05 |
| Afdal | yeah | 12:06 |
| raindodger | Neither Chimaera nor Bullseye have Qalculate in their repos | 12:06 |
| Afdal | mmhmm | 12:06 |
| raindodger | But Bookworm DOES have Qalcualte in its repos | 12:06 |
| raindodger | So maybe temporarily edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and point it to daedalus instead of chimera | 12:07 |
| raindodger | Then apt update, apt install qalculate-gtk | 12:07 |
| Afdal | I'll give it a go... | 12:07 |
| raindodger | Don't forget to point your sources.list back to chimera afterwards! | 12:08 |
| raindodger | Or you could leave it, I suppose | 12:08 |
| Afdal | shouldn't qalculate be in backports, anyway? | 12:08 |
| raindodger | Hmm | 12:08 |
| Afdal | chimaera-backports | 12:08 |
| raindodger | Probably? | 12:08 |
| Afdal | Or do I still not understand how backports works | 12:08 |
| Afdal | Well it's not :c | 12:09 |
| raindodger | Do you have backports included in your sources.list? | 12:09 |
| Afdal | yup | 12:09 |
| raindodger | Hmm | 12:09 |
| pingpongball | check if it is banned packages | 12:09 |
| pingpongball | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 12:09 |
| Afdal | nope | 12:10 |
| used____ | backports is simply a set of packages which were back ported from newer releases to work on older releases, fixing deps, etc. | 12:14 |
| raindodger | Qalculate-GTK is on Github so I mean, you could compile it for now and maybe later it'll be included in Devuan's repos | 12:16 |
| raindodger | https://github.com/Qalculate/qalculate-gtk | 12:17 |
| raindodger | Here's a direct download link for the sauce | 12:17 |
| raindodger | https://github.com/Qalculate/qalculate-gtk/archive/refs/heads/master.zip | 12:17 |
| Afdal | yeah, I suppose | 12:18 |
| Afdal | oh actually I could probably compile this without the gnuplot dependency that I don't need | 12:18 |
| used____ | Mmm sauce. | 12:18 |
| Afdal | so that'd be an improvement over the grab-from-daedalus method | 12:19 |
| furrymcgee | qalculate was removed temporarily during the python transition https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/qalculate-gtk | 12:21 |
| Kitty | oh bollocks,there's no way to back out if you hit the wrong thing in tasksel | 16:56 |
| Kitty | crap. | 16:56 |
| Kitty | is there some incantation to dpkg-deb that is needed to make it pick up files that start with . ? | 17:27 |
| Kitty | oh, actually it may be that it's not picking it up as the directory is 700 | 17:29 |
| critr | just a note to verify that the tor hidden service repo links seem to be working fine. thanks! | 17:34 |
| Kitty | PEBKAC. Helps if I look at the right version of the package | 17:38 |
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