| asdfajsdfj | anybody know how to stop random MAC address creation when creating a bonded interface? | 00:06 |
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| asdfajsdfj | i want to go back to the old behavior of using the first slave NIC's MAC for the bond | 00:06 |
| raindodger | I'm not sure sorry. But as a workaround, you could maybe use macchanger to make the interface appear to have the MAC address that you desire | 00:13 |
| raindodger | Obviously not an ideal workaround, but it might work | 00:13 |
| asdfajsdfj | thanks, but I can assign hwaddress in the interfaces file for each bond stanza | 00:17 |
| asdfajsdfj | but I'd rather not have to hardcode that, didn't used to have to | 00:17 |
| rrq | is that the "fail_over_mac" parameter (and sysctl)? | 01:03 |
| virbr0 | Why is libvirt banned? | 01:34 |
| Hydragyrum | wdym? I see all the libvirt packages I need in repos | 01:36 |
| virbr0 | That's insane. I just pulled the banned packages list and see libvirt and a bunch of related libvirt-foo. I have been going through the repository for the last two days and keep getting nil when I search for libvirt lib-virt etc | 01:38 |
| fsmithred | 1=jessie | 01:38 |
| fsmithred | apt-cache search libvirt |wc -l | 01:39 |
| fsmithred | 70 | 01:39 |
| virbr0 | Just ran the search again on devuan.org, no results for 'libvirt'. I have to enable the jesse main branch on my install then? | 01:40 |
| fsmithred | check your sources.list | 01:40 |
| fsmithred | no, libvirt0 is banned in jessie | 01:41 |
| Hydragyrum | libvirt0, libvirt-daemon, etc. are all in my repos on deb.devuan.org | 01:41 |
| fsmithred | is/was | 01:41 |
| fsmithred | https://www.devuan.org/os/packages | 01:41 |
| virbr0 | I should be able to install from daedalus main branch or only chimaera? | 01:41 |
| virbr0 | Yes that is the url I have been using I can post a screenshot if you like | 01:41 |
| virbr0 | Also of the banned packages mentions of libvirt | 01:41 |
| fsmithred | are you running chimaera or daedalus? | 01:42 |
| Hydragyrum | I actively use libvirt from devuan repos on ceres | 01:42 |
| virbr0 | I have been considering building it from libvirt.org source until you said something. But then I saw jt on the banned list and thought otherwise. | 01:42 |
| virbr0 | I have been running chimaera. Been thinking of switching to Daed. | 01:42 |
| Hydragyrum | I think you might be using the wrong search query | 01:44 |
| Hydragyrum | search 'libvirt' returns nothing | 01:44 |
| Hydragyrum | search 'libvirt*' returns a ton | 01:44 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah, at pkginfo you need the wildcard or an exact match | 01:45 |
| fsmithred | apt-cache search doesn't need it. | 01:45 |
| Hydragyrum | ^ | 01:46 |
| virbr0 | Ok, awesome. Thanks everyone. | 01:46 |
| fsmithred | pretty sure pkginfo takes regexes, too. If you want to get fancy. | 01:46 |
| virbr0 | Is the openbox install configured in top of Xorg? So the only wayland iso would be KDE? | 01:47 |
| virbr0 | And they all come with pulseaudio right? | 01:47 |
| fsmithred | all the task-*-desktops pull in pulseaudio | 01:48 |
| fsmithred | you can remove it | 01:48 |
| fsmithred | or you can start with just a small base system and add the desktop pieces you want | 01:48 |
| fsmithred | I know nothing about wayland. | 01:48 |
| virbr0 | I tried doing that with a chimaera server install but I was having a pain launching sway with either elogind or seatd. So I wanted to stock something offhand that would be quick to deploy. | 01:49 |
| virbr0 | Looks like all the devuan isos only ship with xorg. kinda sucks. | 01:50 |
| Hydragyrum | sddm works great with sway | 01:50 |
| fsmithred | aptitude says it will install openbox in my daedalus. I'm already using xorg with xfce there. | 01:51 |
| virbr0 | yeah sddm does work great with sway but theres this other one I like better I think clientty or something like that. It's mentioned under the wayland curated code list under sddm. | 01:51 |
| virbr0 | Basically just a CLI sddm. | 01:52 |
| virbr0 | I would like try openbox but looks like if I want wayland I'll need to build up from a server install. | 01:52 |
| fsmithred | un-check everything except standard system utilities at the tasksel window in the installer | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | when you reboot into the installed system, start installing what you want | 01:54 |
| fsmithred | that's what all the cool people do | 01:55 |
| virbr0 | Tell me something new except I'm gonna do it with a deadalus disk ;) | 01:57 |
| jason1234 | hello | 10:26 |
| jason1234 | the xfce4 is not working and not fixed yet. | 10:26 |
| jason1234 | When would be or could be XFCE4 available on DEVUAN ? | 10:26 |
| jason1234 | thank you in advance | 10:27 |
| u4t | define "not working" | 10:30 |
| gucky-chat-laden | I am looking for a pc like nanopi to have 2 gbit ports in a router. I want to use devuan. Does anyone habe a link for this? | 10:39 |
| aitor | jason1234, are you still there? | 12:42 |
| fsmithred | installing ascii from CD1 or DVD without a network mirror should work. The needed package is in those isos. | 12:44 |
| aitor | but, why is the package missing? Perhaps, being the oldoldstable, it's not being updated | 12:47 |
| aitor | if it's very important for him/her, i can build temporarily an unofficial repo of ascii until the issue has been fixed | 12:50 |
| aitor | but it should not be upgraded to gnuinos beowulf, because beowulf was a non-dbus | non-libsystemd0 | non-libelogind experiment | 12:52 |
| aitor | where network-manager was a stone under my shoe | 12:53 |
| aitor | worse than pulseaudio | 12:54 |
| aitor | i need to reboot, bbl | 13:02 |
| ham5urg | loadkeys says file not found and the console is still in english after editing /etc/default/keyboard | 18:55 |
| ham5urg | locales are generated | 18:55 |
| ham5urg | am I missing something? | 18:55 |
| ham5urg | I installed console-data, a "loadkeys de" executes but the keyboard got a weird setting. | 19:00 |
| ham5urg | de-latin1 was it... | 19:02 |
| used____ | Iirc de-*-nodeadkeys is the right one usually. | 20:45 |
| gnude_irl | dhcp is slow i mean really slow. i hotplugged my connection a few minutes ago and still don't have internet. fresh daedalus install. | 20:48 |
| gnude_irl | also fetching errors on the default deb-src entry and runit is not working as expected. maybe some packages are configured differently? | 20:49 |
| gnarface | gnude_irl: did you happen to have a beowulf or chimaera install on the same hardware before that did work? | 20:51 |
| * gnarface probably can't help but is trying to trace an apparent wifi regression too | 20:51 | |
| gnarface | dunno about the second issue | 20:52 |
| used____ | in your shoe? ;) | 20:52 |
| used____ | @stone | 20:52 |
| gnude_irl | i was working on chimaera. oddly enough chimaera idles fresh at ~125M and daed idles and ~170 | 20:53 |
| fsmithred | gnude_irl, you could try changing 'allow hotplug' to 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces | 20:55 |
| fsmithred | there's also a way to patch /etc/init.d/networking to avoid the hotplug delay. | 20:56 |
| gnude_irl | changing to 'auto' == instant hot-plug thank you! | 21:00 |
| gnude_irl | it seems that is not the end of the story. now when i boot, DHCPDISCOVER does its thing until timeout if the port is unplugged. also hotplug is still slow but about 50% faster. what's that patch you mentioned? | 21:14 |
| gnude_irl | also, it looks like sway also installs elogind and enables the service which is... ok, but if i try to launch sway the system locks up | 21:16 |
| gnude_irl | seems like the hotplug speed is sporadic and changes with boot. still searching for a sway fix though. | 21:19 |
| gnude_irl | could be related to installing only the targeted firmware, but the sway problems are consistent with my experience on chimaera with the general package installed. | 21:22 |
| gnarface | i think the fix for sway is to install lightdm | 21:24 |
| gnarface | sorry, that was snarky and unhelpful and wrong, because i just realized you're not talking about slim | 21:25 |
| gnarface | i'm not even sure what sway is | 21:25 |
| gnarface | the package description says it's a compositor, so that suggests the issue could be video driver related | 21:26 |
| gnarface | gnude_irl: does the window manager have an option to try it in software rendering mode? | 21:27 |
| fsmithred | gnude, I'll be back in a minute with an answer | 21:30 |
| gnude_irl | it's a funny joke actually don't beat yourself up about it haha. just trying to get off the xorg codebase but i have some devuan isos with desktop installs so no problem. just a bummer the team doesn't ship with any wayland desktops to make this easy. unless the KDE version is wayland? | 21:30 |
| gnude_irl | gnarface: to my knowledge it doesn't, and unfortunately sway has rather limited debugging. can't even run it as root but the log file only says the same thing as the terminal. cannot create drm backend, user has no sessions, and something else i can't remember right now | 21:32 |
| fsmithred | I don't have a copy of /etc/init.d/networking that I haven't messed with. Would you please paste your stock copy of the file on paste.debian.net? | 21:33 |
| gnude_irl | and to my knowledge 'compositor' is just wayland jargon for something like what xorg might call the Xserver + the (window manager) | 21:33 |
| gnarface | gnude_irl: if it was Xorg i'd tell you to check the log file to make sure the right video driver was being selected and that the required DRI version was being established | 21:33 |
| gnarface | gnude_irl: and to make sure that MESA was completely installed if it wasn't NVidia drivers | 21:34 |
| gnude_irl | mesa-vulkan-drivers is the only drivers package i have installed and no nvidia card in the board | 21:35 |
| gnarface | gnude_irl: all just because that's common culprits for this type of thing on fresh installs... was this a fresh install or an upgrade? | 21:35 |
| gnude_irl | i'll keep that dri bit in my back pocket for a rainy day | 21:35 |
| gnarface | you should definitely have like a dozen or so mesa packages | 21:35 |
| gnude_irl | fresh install on nvme | 21:35 |
| gnude_irl | well there doesnt seem to be a 'mesa-dri' meta package only the sub packages for each video rendering api | 21:36 |
| gnude_irl | vdpau-drivers, va-drivers, vulkan-drivers | 21:36 |
| gnarface | nah it's not named obviously, but you probably will need all of it | 21:36 |
| gnarface | well, i don't know if you need all of it but everything uses some other bit of it | 21:37 |
| gnarface | https://paste.debian.net/1224085/ | 21:37 |
| gnude_irl | fsmithred: can i upload from a tty like some other site? | 21:37 |
| gnarface | here, my mesa package list from ceres, but yours shouldn't be much different | 21:37 |
| fsmithred | yeah: nc termbin.com 9999 < file | 21:37 |
| gnarface | ignore versions and ignore :i386 ones if you're not using multiarch, but otherwise make sure you at least have all the rest | 21:38 |
| gnarface | ok, "all" might be overkill but only slightly | 21:38 |
| gnarface | i admit you probably won't need libd3dadapter9-mesa unless you're using wine | 21:38 |
| gnude_irl | ok just waiting on the hotplug now and i will send the paste and dwnl those packages | 21:40 |
| gnude_irl | https://termbin.com,/i3cn | 21:42 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 21:42 |
| gnude_irl | if i time out it is b/c i am in another tab reading off that pkg list so bear with me | 21:44 |
| gnude_irl | cannot locate libopenvg1-mesa | 21:46 |
| fsmithred | gnude_irl which iso did you use to install? | 21:47 |
| gnude_irl | daedalus_5.0_server_11XXX downloaded and verified last night | 21:48 |
| gnude_irl | from https main not a mirror | 21:48 |
| fsmithred | here's mine: https://termbin.com/0sgt | 21:49 |
| gnude_irl | everytime i reboot i have to wait on DHCPDISCOVER. this is funny. | 21:51 |
| gnude_irl | after having installed all the mesa packages the system still freezes after executing sway | 21:52 |
| fsmithred | for the patch to work, you must have 'allow hotplug' in interfaces | 21:53 |
| gnarface | bummer :( | 21:53 |
| gnude_irl | can't i use nc to suck a paste from a url into a local file? | 21:53 |
| gnude_irl | thanks you anyways gnarface :) | 21:54 |
| gnude_irl | DHCP just finished lol | 21:54 |
| fsmithred | here's the source: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15493#p15493 | 21:55 |
| fsmithred | try wget to pull the file | 21:56 |
| fsmithred | Don't apply that patch directly. It's for an older version that might not be exactly the same. | 21:58 |
| gnude_irl | ok, what ver are you running? just started cracking into this forum post. pretty good stuff. | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | chimaera | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | Ithink that patch was for ascii | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | I just eyeballed it into the current file and it works. | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | pretty sure I did that with beowulf, too | 22:00 |
| gnarface | fsmithred: do you know anything about wpasupplicant being required for wireless devices to work completely in hostapd? i've got a weird issue that's behaving like a power management issue even though power management is supposedly defaulted to off for this device | 22:04 |
| fsmithred | gnarface, I don't know a lot about that | 22:05 |
| gnude_irl | i won't be able to complete the patch but i diffed the files and made some notes about what came from where in the forum post. also maybe of note is that one of my listed required starts is urandom, but in yours, there's not. i suspect there are some more idiosyncrasies like this between our /networking | 22:13 |
| gnude_irl | *i mean as in time lol if the patch doesn't work i'm sure i'll be back to cry about it | 22:13 |
| gnude_irl | but thank you for the informative dialogue :) | 22:15 |
| fsmithred | urandom is in all of the copies I have | 22:16 |
| fsmithred | same Required-Start: as yours | 22:16 |
| gnude_irl | ok weird my bad | 22:17 |
| fsmithred | np, I miss stuff all the time when it's right in front of me | 22:19 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred, That 'nc termbin.com 9999' thingie looks pretty slick | 23:09 |
| Hydragyrum | termbin is the slickest kind of pastebin out there lol | 23:11 |
| fsmithred | it's easy | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | they make short links, so you can remember it while you walk across the room to type it in the irc window | 23:13 |
| brocashelm | dpaste ftw | 23:16 |
| fsmithred | is that related to dmenu? | 23:17 |
| brocashelm | it's a paste site that i highly recommend, and the urls are pretty short and simple | 23:18 |
| brocashelm | https://dpaste.org/ | 23:18 |
| fsmithred | how do you paste there from a terminal? | 23:19 |
| fsmithred | jason1234, the fix should be in the repo in less than 24 hours from now. You'll need to add ascii-proposed-updates to sources.list. | 23:23 |
| fsmithred | and probably do 'apt -t ascii-proposed-updates install libupower-glib3' | 23:23 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: i just saw there's a shell script for dpaste.com: https://hg.sr.ht/~paulbissex/dpaste-tools | 23:23 |
| fsmithred | cool | 23:24 |
| fsmithred | transfer.sh has something similar | 23:24 |
| brocashelm | yeah | 23:25 |
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