| Hunter[m] | I noticed redshift suggests systemd when you install it | 01:16 |
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| Hunter[m] | No thanks.. I wish there was an alternative to redshift without geoclue and the other crap dependencies | 01:16 |
| fsmithred | Hunter[m], I use redshift without geoclue | 01:22 |
| Hunter[m] | You mean it installed without it? | 01:23 |
| fsmithred | ftw add: '--no-install-recommends' | 01:23 |
| Hunter[m] | I know you can manually set temperature which is what I always do.. but geoclue is still there | 01:23 |
| Hunter[m] | Oh | 01:23 |
| fsmithred | and you can run it manually | 01:23 |
| fsmithred | I run a script that uses yad as frontend, so it's all clicky | 01:24 |
| av6 | metala: i know nothing about podman, but i've seen people mention that they need to install debian-podman-config-override on devuan | 02:39 |
| av6 | i would assume it makes podman not depend on journal for logs | 02:40 |
| metala | av6: thank you. I will check that out. Then after NYE I'll debug the docker issue. | 02:56 |
| midori | hi | 08:58 |
| midori | is anyone here | 08:58 |
| midori | (usually IRC is dead and everyone is a lurker) | 08:58 |
| midori | I want to know what the fuck is this | 08:58 |
| midori | so normally I have eth0 as my in-computor eth port | 08:58 |
| midori | but when I put a usb ethernet adapt-r in | 08:59 |
| midori | enx000ec6ae4762: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 | 08:59 |
| midori | inet6 fe80::20e:c6ff:feae:4762 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link> | 08:59 |
| midori | ether 00:0e:c6:ae:47:62 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) | 08:59 |
| midori | RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) | 08:59 |
| midori | RX errors 1 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 | 08:59 |
| midori | TX packets 9 bytes 1546 (1.5 KiB) | 08:59 |
| midori | TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 | 08:59 |
| midori | eth0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 | 08:59 |
| midori | ether f2:50:67:c4:c1:79 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) | 08:59 |
| midori | RX packets 1 bytes 60 (60.0 B) | 08:59 |
| midori | RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 | 08:59 |
| midori | TX packets 15 bytes 2514 (2.4 KiB) | 08:59 |
| midori | TX errors 1 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisi | 08:59 |
| midori | 08:59 | |
| midori | instead of something like eth0,1,2,3,4,5 | 08:59 |
| midori | I get the systemd enx000ec6ae4762 | 08:59 |
| midori | WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!!!!!! | 08:59 |
| midori | why am I getting systemd-devu bullshit???? | 09:00 |
| adam_free2air | hi midori: udev does dynymic device naming, not systemd. | 09:02 |
| adam_free2air | midori: the fine devuan dev team implement eudev as the udev service, which does all this systemd free. | 09:07 |
| adam_free2air | midori: see upstream gentoo project https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Eudev | 09:09 |
| midori | adam_free2air: It is not fine to have these bullshit names | 09:16 |
| midori | I want the normal eth1234567890 | 09:16 |
| midori | I cant' type ethehsxjuhuh7w33y3634526782y7247382u7wd87837486287su129sw892i897486825878w7w483712929ued7y832ydce8xu2h8ygwd787w8163tr28974wyw76qtgeyc82h8163ry2473ehdc | 09:17 |
| Mirko[CHIP] | @midori but is this only a cosmetic issue, or - doesn't it work as expected ? | 09:17 |
| midori | I want the normal things | 09:17 |
| midori | not this FUCKING BULLSHIT | 09:18 |
| midori | this is one of the things we hated systemd for | 09:18 |
| midori | and yet you say | 09:18 |
| ShorTie | nuff with the F word | 09:18 |
| adam_free2air | midori: the link i sent gives you information on how to change naming rules by configuring eudev. | 09:18 |
| midori | "oh well we arent using SYSTEM D, so it's ok" | 09:18 |
| adam_free2air | midori: if you start conversations like this in irc channels, it's not surprising that "(usually IRC is dead and everyone is a lurker)" for you. | 09:18 |
| midori | adam_free2air: I've been using IRC for 20 years | 09:18 |
| midori | it used to be alive | 09:18 |
| midori | also no women like ShorTie | 09:18 |
| midori | ShorTie: suck on a dick, cunt | 09:19 |
| midori | like God made you for | 09:19 |
| midori | (Old testament God, not the new faggot white scum worship) | 09:19 |
| midori | adam_free2air: anyway thanks for the links | 09:19 |
| midori | ill go read the docs | 09:19 |
| midori | adam_free2air: also could you add ChaosEsque Anthology to Devuan | 09:20 |
| midori | it's only 8GB | 09:20 |
| midori | and it updates like every week | 09:21 |
| midori | adam_free2air: an easy package | 09:21 |
| midori | ShorTie: just to let you know who called you out as an XX woman female | 09:21 |
| midori | and told you to do your natural work | 09:21 |
| midori | wouldn't want you to wonder about who you should complain about | 09:21 |
| midori | adam_free2air: anyway thanks for the tips | 09:22 |
| midori | see you later | 09:22 |
| raindodger | man I didn't know eudev had the power to make people sperg out like that | 10:10 |
| Mirko[CHIP] | :S | 10:19 |
| raindodger | Also, why would you use an ethernet USB adaptor? If you need more ethernet ports, you'd be better off connecting a hub or a switch to your existing ethernet port, rather than wasting a USB port. | 10:20 |
| raindodger | Anyway, I'm gonna go play some vidya. I'll catch everyone later | 10:24 |
| buZz | 'does bandwidth exist' :) | 10:25 |
| alv | hi fsmithred how are you doing ??? | 14:25 |
| fsmithred | I'm ok, but hexchat isn't doing so well. | 14:26 |
| alv | what's up ? | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | I can identify manually but not automatically when I log in. | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | using same password. | 14:26 |
| alv | you can add user and password generally | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | it's broken on the desktop computer that I haven't been using in the past couple months | 14:26 |
| fsmithred | and it works on the laptop | 14:26 |
| alv | ahhh | 14:27 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it's in the settings | 14:27 |
| fsmithred | and it used to work | 14:27 |
| alv | i been restoring the qwebirc | 14:27 |
| fsmithred | never heard of it | 14:27 |
| alv | and i was having the same problem | 14:27 |
| alv | with weechat | 14:27 |
| alv | now all is ok | 14:28 |
| fsmithred | brb. gonna try something. | 14:28 |
| alv | it's ok now ? | 14:30 |
| fsmithred | nope | 14:31 |
| alv | opps | 14:31 |
| alv | ok | 14:31 |
| fsmithred | fuck | 14:32 |
| fsmithred | maybe hexchat is mangling my password | 14:32 |
| fsmithred | nicserv tells me it's wrong, but it works when I log in manually | 14:32 |
| fsmithred | and btw folks, midori is mikeeusa | 14:32 |
| fsmithred | adam_free2air, ^^^ | 14:32 |
| alv | maybe it's where you put in the wrong place | 14:33 |
| alv | the password i mean | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | in the place marked "Password" | 14:34 |
| alv | there is a server password or a nickserver password | 14:34 |
| alv | in the my conf | 14:34 |
| UsL | ah, I thought so. I remember mikeeusa to be exceptionally rude. | 14:35 |
| alv | one work and the other don't | 14:35 |
| ShorTie | ya, it's like /msg nickserver password | 14:36 |
| UsL | fsmithred: did you set the correct login method in server settings ctrl+s ? | 14:45 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it's the same as it was when it was working, and it's the same as on the laptop that is still working | 14:45 |
| fsmithred | only difference is username in the fourth row of the first screen. And I tried using the one that the laptop uses. (fsr) | 14:46 |
| fsmithred | also tried a different login method | 14:46 |
| UsL | maybe you need to register with username fsr as well? I have UsL on all name fields I could find. Except the secondary and third which adds the underscore | 14:48 |
| fsmithred | brb | 14:49 |
| fsmithred | ok, I did /msg nickserv set password <blah> | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | and it took the password | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | I used the same password I've been using | 14:51 |
| UsL | username is what's in the address mask when someone is banned/lined/identified. Not the nick. (I believe, haven't followed in the last 18 years) | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | and when I click on the connect button in hexchat, it tries, and then tells me the password is wrong. | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | I type it correctly. Hexchat can't read. | 14:52 |
| UsL | hm, weird. Have you chosen utf-8 for the server in settings? | 14:52 |
| fsmithred | yes | 14:52 |
| UsL | then I am no further "help" : ) | 14:53 |
| fsmithred | thanks for trying | 14:53 |
| fsmithred | ping joerg ^^^ | 14:53 |
| joerg | reading | 15:04 |
| joerg | where does this topic start? | 15:05 |
| joerg | fsmithred: whats up? | 15:08 |
| fsmithred | about an hour ago? | 15:08 |
| fsmithred | hexchat tells me I'm using the wrong password when I auto-login, but not when I log in manually | 15:09 |
| fsmithred | only on the desktop computer. It still works on the laptop. | 15:09 |
| joerg | password too long? | 15:09 |
| fsmithred | I've been using only the laptop for the last three months | 15:09 |
| fsmithred | too long password should always fail, shouldn't it? | 15:09 |
| joerg | I seem to recall hexchat had a limited length for password | 15:09 |
| joerg | no, the IRC message max length is incl header incl realname and all | 15:10 |
| fsmithred | oh | 15:10 |
| joerg | afk bbl | 15:10 |
| fsmithred | I think you just solved it | 15:11 |
| fsmithred | realname on laptop is fsr and is fsmithred on desktop. But changing it to fsr on desktop did not fix it. | 15:11 |
| wikan | hi, can you tell me something about this "issue"? | 15:11 |
| wikan | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/43351bac/ | 15:11 |
| wikan | have no idea how to "fix" it ;) | 15:18 |
| joerg | re | 15:18 |
| joerg | fsmithred: try a password <30char | 15:18 |
| joerg | only ASCII chars | 15:18 |
| joerg | no spaces | 15:19 |
| fsmithred | will do | 15:20 |
| joerg | make sure to use a /query nickserv for all communication to nickserv | 15:21 |
| fsmithred | it's already less than 20 | 15:21 |
| fsmithred | but will try a change | 15:21 |
| joerg | then it's not related to pw-length | 15:21 |
| joerg | the length thing was a user who used a ~50char pw | 15:22 |
| joerg | or 60 | 15:22 |
| fsmithred | reciting poetry? | 15:22 |
| joerg | I suggest asking in #libera, if you're lucky you can dodge the trolls and get a reply from somebody honest and savvy | 15:23 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 15:23 |
| joerg | I think that user used a password generated by some tool | 15:24 |
| joerg | hexchat has quirks | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | I might just try copying the configs over from the laptop | 15:25 |
| fsmithred | oh, laptop is chimaera, desktop is beowulf | 15:26 |
| fsmithred | not sure if that matters | 15:26 |
| UsL | do a diff. I'm invested now : ) | 15:26 |
| * fsmithred is glad he installed sshfs | 15:27 | |
| joerg | the config should be identical re app version | 15:30 |
| joerg | a very "popular" problem are non-printing chars in password | 15:32 |
| fsmithred | different version, but also different stored passwords | 15:32 |
| fsmithred | will try to change it again | 15:32 |
| fsmithred | brb | 15:32 |
| joerg | is the password stored in plaintext? (hope so) | 15:32 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 15:33 |
| fsmithred | one more time... | 15:34 |
| Kingsy | does devuan come with any weird firewall that would stop be mounting a nfs share? its just timing out and am I sure the setup is correct. | 15:35 |
| Kingsy | mount.nfs: Connection timed out | 15:36 |
| joerg | consider firewalls in router too | 15:37 |
| Kingsy | its not that. the same command works on 2 other machines on the network | 15:37 |
| fsmithred | nano to the rescue! I just edited the config file. | 15:39 |
| joerg | :-D | 15:40 |
| fsmithred | so much for gui controls | 15:40 |
| joerg | hexchat has quirks | 15:40 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it needs a 'Save' button in the edit panel | 15:40 |
| joerg | were you able to compare passwords? | 15:40 |
| fsmithred | on this box, both the old pw and new were in servlist.conf | 15:41 |
| joerg | oooh THAT. Yeah it has a "save config" menu item | 15:41 |
| joerg | fsmithred: you might have missed: <Kingsy> does devuan come with any weird firewall that would stop be mounting a nfs share? its just timing out and am I sure the setup is correct. | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | no default firewall | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | and the old password was in the freenode section of servlist.conf | 15:42 |
| joerg | editing wrong "server"? | 15:44 |
| fsmithred | not according to my gui choices. I am removing fleabag from the server list | 15:45 |
| joerg | or did that mess called config get messed up even more by the app? | 15:45 |
| fsmithred | not sure | 15:45 |
| joerg | hexchat *shrug* | 15:45 |
| fsmithred | ok, now 'freenode' does not appear in servlist.conf | 15:46 |
| fsmithred | I had previously erased the password for freenode in hexchat, but the change did not stick. | 15:46 |
| joerg | "save config" ;-) | 15:47 |
| fsmithred | ctrl-x, yes | 15:47 |
| fsmithred | (in nano) | 15:47 |
| joerg | hapens to me all the time, /ignore getting lost, aliases and autoreplace getting lost... Koversation client though which does _not_ have _any_ "save config" :-S | 15:48 |
| joerg | hahaha nano, now I know :-) you edited while hexcaht still running. When you close it it overwrites new config with old one | 15:49 |
| fsmithred | no, I edited when closed | 15:49 |
| fsmithred | hexchat is what wouldn't save the settings | 15:49 |
| fsmithred | maybe it's time to upgrade desktop to chimaera | 15:50 |
| joerg | *shrug* prolly hexchat invented one _more_ way to trick users ;-) | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | lol | 15:50 |
| furrymcgee | gconf-service or dconf-service? | 16:07 |
| joerg | hm? | 16:28 |
| joerg | dconf sounds like poettering, really | 16:32 |
| * joerg wishes they could finally come up with a comprehensive generic middleware concept. | 16:34 | |
| * joerg mumbles freesmartphone.org | 16:35 | |
| fsmithred | gconf saves in plain text, dconf in binary | 16:47 |
| alv | hi @fsmithred i sent you a email to your gmail.com account can you check ?? | 18:29 |
| alv | ok thanks | 18:32 |
| alv | it works then !!! | 18:32 |
| used____ | Anyone ever compiled some tcl extension against libcups? Printing on Linux? | 20:42 |
| used____ | Sorry, wrong channel, should be #tcl | 20:43 |
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