| metala | oh man, that midori guy... very uptight, a lot more than me. Also that profanity is on a whole new level. | 03:48 |
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| golinux | metala: And that has what exactly to do with Devuan support? Better on #devuan-offtopic | 03:58 |
| metala | golinux: sorry, I ring you up. Thanks for the tip. | 04:40 |
| metala | rang* | 04:40 |
| golinux | metala: Feel free to join us there. :) | 04:41 |
| joerg | >><fsmithred> gconf saves in plain text, dconf in binary<< which was the exact point in time where I started to think >>smells like poettering<<. Well, this and the heavy dependency on dbus | 16:14 |
| joerg | did I mention I think dbus still doesn't work, despite supposed to be adult meanwhile? | 16:16 |
| Guest-12345678 | does devuan utilise reddit as a source of information. I only ask as at first glance the majority of posts are very old on reddit | 20:26 |
| djph | wdym "source of information" ? | 20:28 |
| Guest-12345678 | some distro's use reddit to highlight and answer questions...apart from one post which is 1 month old the rest are over a year old | 20:29 |
| Guest-12345678 | no biggie just curious | 20:30 |
| Guest-12345678 | i was trying to find further info on a netinstall with runnit. unfortunately once again the majority of resources are beowulf related | 20:35 |
| golinux | Guest-12345678: We have no active presence on Reddit. | 20:54 |
| golinux | _alv_: Jitsi is mnpot working at the meet. | 21:37 |
| golinux | not | 21:38 |
| golinux | It is an epic fail! | 21:39 |
| golinux | We can only see ourselves and no audio. | 21:39 |
| gnarface | Guest-12345678: this is the one you want, i think: https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/chimaera-release-announce-2021-10-14 | 21:42 |
| gnarface | Guest-12345678: i haven't tested it but if runit doesn't show up immediately then check in expert mode and the "load additional installer components" section | 21:43 |
| gnarface | Guest-12345678: (fyi you can probably just "apt-get install runit" on your existing system though) | 21:43 |
| Guest-12345678 | gnarface thxs..i subscribed to the mailing list | 21:44 |
| gnarface | Guest-12345678: (even in beowulf i believe that should have worked) | 21:44 |
| Guest-12345678 | It would be my first time installing devuan (installed debian many times with UEFI / LUKS / LVM from a net install) | 21:45 |
| Guest-12345678 | was just really looking for info to help me make the plunge :] to devuan | 21:46 |
| gnarface | Guest-12345678: every effort has been made to preserve the familiar functionality of the installer and other tools | 22:17 |
| gnarface | there should be very little learning curve. if you'd been using debian since wheezy, there should be no learning curve | 22:18 |
| micdud | trying to get root access to an NFS-krb5 share, with static mapping in idmap.conf on nfs-server , only works when -n flag for rpc.gssd is enabled on nfs-client. but then automounting of nfs shares stops untill root kinits and mounts them. so users cannot use NFS untill then | 23:05 |
| micdud | man for rpc.gssd say -n should still use machine credentials , as i understand it | 23:06 |
| micdud | but it does not seem to happends | 23:06 |
| gnarface | i got nothing really, can't say i've used it | 23:07 |
| gnarface | but one thing comes to mind if you're trying this for the first time on devuan instead of debian; permissions | 23:07 |
| gnarface | user/group/filesystem | 23:08 |
| gnarface | they often cause a problem because systemd bypasses security for the local console user | 23:08 |
| micdud | not it , regular nfs shares with no_root_squash with sec=sys work just fine | 23:08 |
| gnarface | so projects have been not bothering to grant proper permissions anymore, i've noticed | 23:08 |
| micdud | its a kerberos gssd issue | 23:08 |
| gnarface | i can't say i've used it. is kerberos that one that requires you to allow passwordless sudo? | 23:09 |
| micdud | one of those things it can do , yes | 23:10 |
| micdud | but then again , i always ssh-copy id for that | 23:10 |
| gnarface | well, it's a slow channel but people read their scrollbacks here, someone might show up eventually who knows | 23:13 |
| micdud | ill ask in debian also | 23:14 |
| gnarface | if it's not happening in debian that really narrows the possibilities down to a short list | 23:14 |
| gnarface | if you're on amd64 or i386 the kernel is even the same package | 23:14 |
| gnarface | like, not rebuilt. it's the identical kernel package from debian, as are most the other packages | 23:15 |
| gnarface | it's not even copied, it's served by http redirect through the magic of amprolla | 23:15 |
| gnarface | so, that's why usually it ends up being a permissions thing | 23:16 |
| gnarface | but, it might be a startup script thing too; some of the startup scripts have disappeared or fallen into disrepair i've noticed | 23:17 |
| gnarface | hmm, what else... | 23:18 |
| gnarface | logging is different but that doesn't seem like it'd be related | 23:18 |
| gnarface | oh, network names are different by default, aren't they? debian uses the new style network names now by default, don't they? | 23:19 |
| gnarface | not sure how that'd be related either | 23:19 |
| micdud | one of these days i will install debian again and try to figure out the systemd thing , | 23:21 |
| micdud | i tried enabling them on devuan the other day , but could not by just deliting udev rulles | 23:22 |
| gnarface | i think it's just a kernel command-line option | 23:26 |
| gnarface | you'd edit /etc/default/grub | 23:26 |
| gnarface | you might need to also blow out the cached network names in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules too though, not sure | 23:27 |
| micdud | on older dists , on newer you just had to delete persisten udev rulles file , https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames | 23:27 |
| gnarface | that is one other change that debian made that devuan did not track | 23:32 |
| gnarface | it is mentioned in the README | 23:33 |
| gnarface | or the release notes | 23:33 |
| micdud | so net.ifnames=1 to enable then ? | 23:33 |
| gnarface | mabye that's the same hting, not sure | 23:33 |
| gnarface | yea, net.ifnames looks right | 23:33 |
| gnarface | i think that's right | 23:33 |
| micdud | ill try , cause up untill now , just using persistent file , to rename based on mac worked just fine , till one system was not able to swap eth0 with eth1 dues to some conflict , so figured idd try the new scheme | 23:35 |
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