libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2022-01-02

sabas3dghhello devuan enthusiasts06:05
sabas3dghhello and good day!06:05
sabas3dghI messed up devuan last night and reinstalled it this morning,06:05
sabas3dgha question. is there a command to take all the installed packages list out and then give it as a file to apt-get to install it on new server.06:06
sabas3dghit would help a lot06:06
sabas3dghbrb06:17
sabas3dghHello again06:20
sabas3dghI am back06:20
sabas3dghany idea about my question? ^^06:20
rrqhow about: apt-mark showmanual06:23
rrq.. shows all that installed but not if pulled in by dependencies only06:24
rrqor: apt-mark showinstall06:24
rrq.. shows all installed (manually and automatic)06:25
sabas3dghrrq: Nice; Thanks06:48
sabas3dghhello devuan users :)19:06
sabas3dghthanks for all your help19:06
sabas3dghI set up my desktop19:07
sabas3dghI did install compiz as compositor with mate (mate tweak) and it is very acceptable.19:07
sabas3dghmy only issue is windows buttons (close minimize maximize) they don't work19:08
sabas3dghPlease hit me with any solution if you know how19:08
sabas3dghI use pidgin as IRC client (which is very nice), firefox as web browser, Mate terminal is nice, file manager is ok,19:10
sabas3dghdo you suggest installing compton instead. if yes please give me some good config for compton19:10
sabas3dghthanks19:10
fsmithredsabas3dgh, if the window buttons problem is related to client-side decorations, you could install gtk3-nocsd19:16
sabas3dghfsmithred: what is that? I clcik on the buttons but nothing happens. I though it is because compiz is running the show there.19:18
fsmithredmaybe19:18
fsmithredclient-side decorations are window controls that are part of the application instead of part of the window manager.19:18
fsmithredif you have normal title bars with normal looking window buttons, that is not csd.19:19
sabas3dghfsmithred: https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd19:19
fsmithredI would install it from the devuan repo.19:20
fsmithredhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-side_decoration   See the example19:21
sabas3dghfsmithred: I need this to be set at system start (and system wide) what is you suggestion. export LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=i91519:22
sabas3dghfsmithred: reading the wiki page ...19:22
fsmithredwhat I suggest is that you look at the example and look at your monitor and decide if that is the problem19:22
fsmithredif it is, then I suggest running 'apt install gtk3-nocsd' and then logging out and in.19:23
fsmithredif it isn't, then you would need to do something else that I don't know.19:23
fsmithredI don't know anything about exporting libva driver19:24
sabas3dghwhere does lightdm read at session start up? ~/.profile /etc/environment .... where?19:25
fsmithredI don't know. I can never keep that stuff straight.19:26
fsmithredelogind is involved in that19:26
fsmithredwhat are you trying to do?19:26
sabas3dghfsmithred: exporting system variable19:28
sabas3dgh/etc/profile.d/ may be?19:28
fsmithredfor gtk3-nocsd?19:29
sabas3dghno for firefox and play online video (hardware acceleration).19:30
sabas3dghnocsd doesn't need that. does it?19:30
fsmithrednope19:30
sabas3dghfsmithred: If yo don't mind me asking...19:30
sabas3dghwhat desktop are you running?19:30
fsmithredxfce19:30
sabas3dghYay.19:31
fsmithredoccasionally openbox with lxpanel19:31
sabas3dghstable and highly configurable19:31
fsmithredI have compositing enabled in the xfce settings19:32
fsmithredI think it's just whatever the defaults are19:32
fsmithredI put custom stuff (exports) in ~/.bashrc19:34
fsmithrede.g. stuff for signing packages19:34
fsmithredyes, you can put things in /etc/profile.d/ for system-wide settings.19:36
fsmithredI've used that for desktop autologin without a display manager and I think for language settings.19:36
sabas3dghfsmithred: yes. You confirmed it.19:37
fsmithredwhich?19:37
fsmithredmy approach is usually to try something to see if it works19:37
fsmithredkick it around until it obeys19:38
sabas3dgh/etc/profile.d !19:38
fsmithredah, ok.19:38
sabas3dghfsmithred: I have an issue. What is the official way of changing defaults for multiple version of some program (i.e java perl ...)19:38
fsmithredthe proof is in the pudding19:38
sabas3dgh:D19:38
fsmithredupdate-alternatives19:39
sabas3dghI see we have update alternatives19:39
fsmithredhave fun with that man page19:39
sabas3dghthat bad?19:39
fsmithredlol19:39
fsmithredwant to become a package mainainer? I have one for you.19:39
fsmithreddesktop-base19:39
fsmithredif there are already existing alternatives to choose from, it's pretty easy19:40
fsmithredupdate-alternatives --config <name>19:41
fsmithredand I usually figure out the name by looking at what's in /etc/alternatives19:41
fsmithredupdate-alternatives --config x-window-manager19:42
fsmithredif the link group doesn't exist, it gets a lot more interesting.19:44
fsmithredbrb19:45
gnarfacesabas3dgh: i actually had problems figuring out how to get lightdm to run the bash login scripts right.  it's doing something misbeahved, i forget exactly what.  (not using it myself, but was helping someone else with it at some point)23:15
gnarfacesabas3dgh: luckily that variable is probably just fine as a system-wide one23:15
gnarfacei forget what i had changed now to get it working on that one though, but it was beowulf23:16

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