| Smilex | Hey. Is it possible to get the nvidia 470 driver from the repos? I'm currently on 460, and ffmpeg complains that 470 is required for nvenc | 01:53 |
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| _ds_ | Looks like it's there in testing & unstable. It'll probably be backported to stable at some point. | 02:10 |
| * _ds_ mutters something vile about nvidia and tainted kernels | 02:10 | |
| sabas3dgh | gnarface: Hi; I see. Do you remeber what you did? | 05:02 |
| gnarface | sabas3dgh: sorry no. i know i used ~/.profile, maybe that was all there is to it; i remember specifically noticing it ignored ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bash_login | 05:07 |
| gnarface | sabas3dgh: but it's vague now and i know i looked into other things and may have done one of them; something like adding it to the kde startup options or something like that. it wasn't my machine i was doing this on | 05:08 |
| gnarface | (adding the ~/.profile itself to the window manager startup options, that is) | 05:08 |
| gnarface | there might have actually been a lightdm config file change that fixed it | 05:09 |
| gnarface | but that might have been something else.... | 05:09 |
| sabas3dgh | I can see taht lightdm reads ~/.xprofile | 05:10 |
| sabas3dgh | What is the mate's version we have ! | 07:35 |
| rrq | sabas3dgh: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=task-mate-desktop&x=submit | 07:54 |
| sedrosken | the nvidia proprietary drivers are completely unsuitable for anything pre-maxwell I believe, they just don't work -- but I don't recall if Nouveau works properly on anything pre FX series, so I'm unsure... maybe try the modesetting driver? it'd be software but it would at least give you a display | 14:39 |
| sedrosken | hmm | 14:39 |
| sedrosken | wait I seem to have that backwards. you have a display but no cursor | 14:39 |
| sedrosken | sorry, haven't had enough coffee | 14:40 |
| sedrosken | seems like something about the hardware accelerated cursor...? I vaguely remember that being a thing with Windows 3-era drivers, maybe that still applies with a GF4MX -- being a DX7 card, that's more akin to late 90s cards than you might think, it's the same featureset as the 1999 GeForce256 | 15:18 |
| sedrosken | I honestly expected more problems out of the fact that your CPU doesn't support SSE2 than the video card -- most browser builds and I think anything depending on rust hard-requires sse2 now | 15:19 |
| sedrosken | maybe start with trying to disable that in a xorg.conf systemdlete -- I wouldn't know where to start on that front but a software cursor ought to display on ANYTHING | 15:24 |
| sedrosken | back in the day, accelerating the cursor drawing made the system feel more responsive -- think of how laggy the mouse is in a bad VNC connection, and you have an idea of what early to mid 90s computers felt like using Windows without this feature | 15:25 |
| sabas3dgh | hello you all. I am looking for good/nice GUI font for linux desktop (not for terminal) I am open to suggestions. thanks for your help.^_^ | 18:47 |
| golinux- | sabas3dgh: I use Open Sans Semibold (old eyes) | 18:50 |
| sabas3dgh | golinux-: thanks. :D | 18:51 |
| critr | i like the clarity and compactness of android fonts, so i use droid san on the compute, too. https://www.1001fonts.com/search.html?search=droid+sans | 18:58 |
| Afdal | Why is Hexchat opening Catfish when I want to "see files in file manager" instead of opening Thunar... | 18:59 |
| Afdal | Thunar is clearly set to my file manager in Default Applications :c | 19:00 |
| used____ | Afdal: what window manager | 19:16 |
| Afdal | xfwm4 | 19:16 |
| Afdal | I haven't had this issue before | 19:17 |
| Afdal | not sure if it's a chimaera quirk or what | 19:17 |
| used____ | This is part of the fun & games we all have with MIME etc handlers installed by applications clobbering defaults | 19:19 |
| used____ | What file did you try to open? Exact name example? | 19:19 |
| Afdal | not a file | 19:20 |
| Afdal | Simply in hexchat | 19:20 |
| Afdal | at the logging tab | 19:21 |
| Afdal | clicking "Open Data Folder" | 19:21 |
| * used____ reads xdg-open source which is horror and leads to exo-open which is binary horror. The latter cannot easily be understood, manpage has no content as to configs used, as usual, need to read sources for that. | 19:21 | |
| Afdal | {:c | 19:22 |
| used____ | So what was configured in hexchat as data folder? | 19:22 |
| * used____ is very much fed up with desktop automation runining working things. | 19:23 | |
| used____ | https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/2662 this look familiar? | 19:24 |
| * used____ wonders if there's Mom_OS since the article mentions Pop_OS | 19:24 | |
| used____ | Afdal: link for you ^ | 19:25 |
| sabas3dgh | critr: thanks for your suggestion | 19:31 |
| Afdal | the right data folder is opened | 19:36 |
| Afdal | it just opens it in the wrong program | 19:37 |
| Afdal | it opens it in Catfish, my file search tool, for some silly reason | 19:37 |
| used____ | Did you read the link? hexchat uses a file:// url to open the link, catfish probably registered itself as file: method handler | 19:39 |
| Afdal | how do I fix that o: | 19:43 |
| used____ | See above rant about xdg-open and exo-open | 19:43 |
| used____ | You can try something like exo-open file:///tmp for example to see it opens catfish | 19:43 |
| used____ | Then start digging, if it does. | 19:44 |
| Afdal | exo-open uses Thunar properly | 19:44 |
| used____ | Good. What about xdg-open file:///tmp | 19:44 |
| Afdal | yeah | 19:45 |
| Afdal | that's what I mean | 19:45 |
| used____ | Thunar? | 19:45 |
| Afdal | yep | 19:45 |
| Afdal | This seems like some oddity around hexchat because I haven't experienced it with other programs | 19:45 |
| used____ | Nice, so now go into hexchat configs with hexchat stopped, see where a file:// appears | 19:45 |
| Afdal | grep "file://" *.conf | 19:46 |
| Afdal | ? | 19:46 |
| Afdal | I don't get any hits {: | 19:46 |
| used____ | no https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HexChat | 19:46 |
| Afdal | That's the right way to search a bunch of files with grep right | 19:46 |
| Afdal | Right? | 19:47 |
| used____ | Afdal: that does not search in ~/.config f.ex. | 19:47 |
| Afdal | I'm doing it in my config folder of course | 19:47 |
| Afdal | same as grep "file://" ~/.config/hexchat/*.conf | 19:47 |
| Afdal | But that's the right way to do it, right? | 19:47 |
| used____ | I am not sure grep "file://" is the right thing to look for, since file: is properly opened by exo-open etc | 19:48 |
| Afdal | The only hit I get from "file" is hexchat.conf:gui_filesize_iec = 0 | 19:48 |
| Afdal | and that's obviously not it | 19:48 |
| Afdal | What else might I search for... | 19:48 |
| used____ | Dunno. Ask in the hexchat channel? | 19:49 |
| Afdal | I think this setting might be something that you can only set at compile time | 19:49 |
| Afdal | Good idea :y | 19:49 |
| Afdal | I could probably just remove Catfish and see what happens | 19:51 |
| Afdal | I'm pretty upset at whoever added that CSD garbage to Catfish anyway >:c | 19:51 |
| used____ | CSD? | 19:51 |
| used____ | Yes you could temporarily uninstall catfish | 19:52 |
| Afdal | client-side decoration | 19:52 |
| Afdal | code for that stupid, asinine UI decision of putting the search bar -inside- the window titlebar | 19:52 |
| used____ | catfish is such a poor name for a decent search device. Bottom feeder fish, lives in mud, eats c**p. | 19:53 |
| Afdal | oh hay | 19:53 |
| Afdal | xdg-mime query default inode/directory | 19:53 |
| Afdal | this reports org.xfce.Catfish.desktop | 19:53 |
| Afdal | How do I change that... | 19:53 |
| used____ | Right, so it was a MIME crap | 19:53 |
| Afdal | bingo | 19:54 |
| Afdal | Fixed it ;y | 19:54 |
| used____ | Afdal: sudo vi /etc/mailcap search for line with inode in it | 19:54 |
| Afdal | why mailcap? | 19:54 |
| used____ | That's where MIME settings live, it is historical. Grandfathered in. | 19:55 |
| used____ | mailcap used to tell the email client how to handle attachments with given mime type. | 19:55 |
| Afdal | I don't know how to search with vi :c | 19:55 |
| used____ | Afdal: then other text editor. How did you fix it? | 19:55 |
| Afdal | Changed it back to thunar through xfce4-mime-settings | 19:56 |
| used____ | Right, that may edit your own local mime settings... | 19:56 |
| Afdal | My guess is catfish imposed this | 19:57 |
| Afdal | when I uninstalled/reinstalled it not too long ago | 19:57 |
| Afdal | At least I think that was something I did | 19:57 |
| used____ | Yes, other apps do this too. Vivaldi browser notably <grr> | 19:58 |
| used____ | Clobbering defaults, installing as "handle all" | 19:58 |
| used____ | xfce4-mime-settings is a perfect example of undocumented modern program in Devuan. It claims to have a manpage but it is useless. I had to read sources to find out where it keeps it's configs it edits | 19:59 |
| Afdal | I think xfce itself changed where it stores settings not too long ago | 19:59 |
| Afdal | that might be part of the reason | 19:59 |
| used____ | find ~/.config/ -iname '*mime*' ;# is helpful | 20:00 |
| used____ | Note ~/.config/mimeapps.list is an override for /etc/mailcap | 20:01 |
| used____ | Iow things not defined in it are taken from /etc/mailcap | 20:01 |
| used____ | https://wiki.debian.org/MIME this is a rundown of where MIME settings can be / are stored, in addition to the above | 20:04 |
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