| systemdlete | http://paste.debian.net/1226230/ | 03:30 |
|---|---|---|
| systemdlete | ??? | 03:30 |
| systemdlete | Note that the repo has changed. I was previously using a local repo, but changed it to bareos's official repos. I did all of this to get more up-to-date versions of bareos. | 03:32 |
| systemdlete | devuan/debian has a rather old version (16) whereas the newest version was just released before the new year (21) | 03:32 |
| fsmithred | debian/devuan has the old version of everything. It's a feature. | 03:40 |
| systemdlete | ah, ok. thanks. :) | 03:43 |
| systemdlete | but seriously... !!! | 03:44 |
| systemdlete | welcome back fsmithred. missed you buddy | 03:44 |
| systemdlete | happy new year | 03:44 |
| fsmithred | thanks. Happy new year. | 03:44 |
| systemdlete | any ideas on the update/upgrade? | 03:44 |
| systemdlete | I have never understood debian's packaging system thoroughly enough to figure these things out | 03:45 |
| fsmithred | what upgrade? | 03:45 |
| systemdlete | did you see the link? | 03:45 |
| fsmithred | no | 03:45 |
| systemdlete | here it is again: http://paste.debian.net/1226230/ | 03:46 |
| critr | systemdlete, do you add the backports repo to your sources.list? | 03:47 |
| fsmithred | that's weird | 03:47 |
| systemdlete | critr: Are the new bareos packages in backports? When I've checked in the past, they were not there. | 03:47 |
| fsmithred | try aptitude. It may give you some options | 03:48 |
| systemdlete | (fsmithred: I'm using the web chat, so maybe some of my posts are not making it?) | 03:48 |
| systemdlete | keep in mind, bareos 21 was just released about 2 weeks ago, that's all. | 03:49 |
| fsmithred | did they backport it for buster? | 03:50 |
| systemdlete | yes, they absolutely did. And for the previous version also | 03:50 |
| systemdlete | but that's as far back as they went. | 03:50 |
| systemdlete | I think there are some library deps involved... | 03:50 |
| systemdlete | I dont see a way to unhold these packages (that's the problem, btw) | 03:54 |
| systemdlete | I forgot I put hold on them | 03:54 |
| systemdlete | In the package menu, there is a Hold option but no unHold option... | 03:54 |
| fsmithred | package menu? what's that? | 03:55 |
| systemdlete | in aptitude | 03:55 |
| fsmithred | aptitude -s full-upgrade | 03:55 |
| systemdlete | that only confused me, actually. I decided to remove 3 packages then I will install them again | 03:58 |
| systemdlete | now real problems... | 03:59 |
| systemdlete | to install the new version, it requires newer dependencies like libgcc-s1 >= 3.0, but is not installable | 03:59 |
| systemdlete | egads | 04:00 |
| systemdlete | also readline8 | 04:00 |
| fsmithred | doesn't sound like it was backported to buster | 04:00 |
| systemdlete | now, on chimaera, that's all fine. But on beowulf, not so | 04:00 |
| systemdlete | # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bareos.list | 04:01 |
| systemdlete | deb https://download.bareos.org/bareos/release/21/Debian_11 / | 04:01 |
| systemdlete | or should that be 10? | 04:01 |
| systemdlete | oooh | 04:01 |
| fsmithred | 10, 11 and 12 all start with B | 04:02 |
| systemdlete | duh | 04:02 |
| systemdlete | heheheh | 04:02 |
| systemdlete | that is DEFINITELY adding to the confusion | 04:02 |
| fsmithred | Bu Bu Bo | 04:02 |
| systemdlete | honey bububo | 04:02 |
| systemdlete | ok, switching it to 10 and updating/upgrading worked. | 04:03 |
| systemdlete | anyway, thanks to all who tried to help this careless user | 04:03 |
| systemdlete | devuan's naming is much easier to remember | 04:17 |
| sabas3dgh | fsmithred, hello there. what's up. | 08:17 |
| sabas3dgh | sabas3dgh, where are list of alternatives are located. you say before they are in */usr* | 08:20 |
| sabas3dgh | I can't find them | 08:21 |
| gnarface | sabas3dgh: they're in /etc/alternatives/ | 08:24 |
| gnarface | sabas3dgh: check the man page for update-alternatives though | 08:24 |
| sabas3dgh | gnarface, oh; hello there; how are you. | 08:25 |
| sabas3dgh | gnarface, the question is how to manually add an alternative to a list of existing ones? | 08:26 |
| gnarface | sabas3dgh: it's based on the package header "Provides:" | 08:27 |
| gnarface | sabas3dgh: i don't know if there's a way to add one directly other than editing its package header | 08:28 |
| gnarface | the man page would mention it most likely if so | 08:28 |
| sabas3dgh | gnarface, So what about that there is not a package at all.. just a directory. | 08:30 |
| sabas3dgh | I am looking at man page let you know then! | 08:30 |
| gnarface | if it's just a directory i'd suggest you put it in a package | 08:31 |
| gnarface | you don't really mean it's literally just a directory right? you mean it's a directory with stuff in it, i assume... | 08:31 |
| gnarface | this stuff is all based on package headers. you need a package to fulfill the basic premise. | 08:32 |
| gnarface | however, alternatives are in the end, just a way to automate updating symlinks from them to binaries in /usr/bin, usually | 08:33 |
| gnarface | and you can certainly update those symlinks manually | 08:33 |
| gnarface | if you're only doing this to override the current default of a list of alternatives, you don't really need the list, right? | 08:34 |
| gnarface | kinda makes a mess but those are your two choices | 08:34 |
| gnarface | the symlinks are what is in /etc/alternatives/ | 08:35 |
| sabas3dgh | hi back | 08:42 |
| sabas3dgh | do anyone know how could I enable that squeaky line as wrong worrd spell in softwares like hexchat? | 08:43 |
| gnarface | some gtk thing. it's not on by default for you? | 08:47 |
| gnarface | maybe you have to install the spellcheck dictionary | 08:47 |
| gnarface | oh, maybe it's libgspel | 08:55 |
| gnarface | libgspell* | 08:55 |
| sabas3dgh | update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javap javap /home/admins/Applications/graalvm-ce-java11-21.3.0/bin/javap 3 | 09:13 |
| sabas3dgh | restrting hexchat | 09:14 |
| sabas3dgh | no luck gnarface | 09:17 |
| _alv_ | hi good morning who is that is taking care of the devuan MX ??? | 10:37 |
| sadoon_albader[m | There's a devuan MX? | 11:10 |
| djph | perhaps he means the DNS MX record? | 11:12 |
| _alv_ | we think someone is trying to send mails using a wrong mx | 11:30 |
| _alv_ | bb|hcb | A problem with the MX for lists.dyne.org was reported - 2022-01-06 14:28:46 H=harlock.dyne.org (mail.dyne.org) [141.95.47.84] | 11:31 |
| _alv_ | 3. #bridge │ | X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256 F=<devuan-bugs-bounces@lists.dyne.org> rejected RCPT <mark@hindley.org.uk>: SPF check failed. | 11:31 |
| _alv_ | 4. #core │21:11:51 bb|hcb | Please add harlock.dyne.org/141.95.47.84 to the MX record :)y | 11:31 |
| _alv_ | harlock insn't one mx !!! | 11:32 |
| DashiePie | need some help | 15:27 |
| DashiePie | my system clock needs a new ntp source or it'll continue to run faster than what it should | 15:28 |
| DashiePie | https://files.catbox.moe/46zzvd.png | 16:06 |
| DashiePie | help with this error, please? | 16:06 |
| djph | that almost reads like a systemd error ... | 16:10 |
| Tenkawa | take a read here: https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,465.0.html | 16:13 |
| Tenkawa | seems similar to what they encountered | 16:13 |
| Tenkawa | not really "easily fixable" since it expects systemd components | 16:14 |
| Tenkawa | unless you rebuild it yourself | 16:14 |
| DashiePie | no idea why it spontaneously stopped working | 16:20 |
| DashiePie | seems like a real problem for no particular reason at all | 16:20 |
| Tenkawa | any errors in /var/log? | 16:20 |
| DashiePie | where am I looking? | 16:28 |
| Tenkawa | just through the various logs for the time period and if you see "error/warning" messages .. . those messages would potentially indicate something is not either working intermittently and just needs a reboot perhaps too | 16:31 |
| DashiePie | yeah, I totally know what to look for /s | 16:32 |
| DashiePie | I don't know | 16:40 |
| DashiePie | I don't think there was anything related to the service that controls time and date | 16:41 |
| Tenkawa | thats not relevant.. you are "telling" it to use one that is with that message… "GDBus.Error:orq.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:The | 16:50 |
| Tenkawa | name or.freedesktop.timedate1" is a time called by dbus-systemd | 16:50 |
| Tenkawa | https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/org.freedesktop.timedate1.5.html | 16:50 |
| Tenkawa | thats what that error refers back to | 16:50 |
| Tenkawa | but since devuan doesn't use systemd.... | 16:51 |
| Tenkawa | that's not correct behaviour | 16:52 |
| DashiePie | I did absolutely nothing, this behavior started SUDDENLY | 16:52 |
| Tenkawa | so have you updated/upgraded your system recently? | 16:52 |
| DashiePie | no, I really should | 16:52 |
| DashiePie | but I need to edit it so that Chimaera is the default, I'm still in-between | 16:52 |
| DashiePie | I'm seriously not sure why it just STOPPED working altogether, though | 16:53 |
| Tenkawa | not sure. | 16:53 |
| DashiePie | it's all so tiresome | 16:54 |
| DashiePie | >no ping reply for 415 seconds | 16:54 |
| DashiePie | wonder if that's the snow, or my fucked up system | 16:54 |
| Tenkawa | heh I'm looking out at a bunch of snow too | 16:55 |
| Tenkawa | melting fast here though | 16:55 |
| Tenkawa | we missed the worst by about 40m/64km | 16:56 |
| DashiePie | is there any way to manually set time with ntp or what? | 17:09 |
| DashiePie | what sources it uses? | 17:09 |
| DashiePie | can I at least get a .source file or something to correct this? | 17:09 |
| DashiePie | I just want any way to keep it from running too fast | 17:10 |
| DashiePie | because youtube videos and wine and everything plays 1.10x faster | 17:10 |
| djph | what? | 17:16 |
| djph | system time has no bearing whatsoever on games or youtube... | 17:17 |
| DashiePie | then something's really wrong, because it's all playing faster | 17:17 |
| DashiePie | I didn't touch anything | 17:17 |
| djph | well, the hwclock still doesn't have any bearing on any of that. | 17:20 |
| djph | hwclock (and NTP) just keep track of, well, "time". your hwclock running fast has as much bearing on other stuff happening as your wall-clock running fast does to your local news broadcast. | 17:23 |
| djph | (iow, not a single thing) | 17:23 |
| DashiePie | the only thing I can find is about the cmos battery, which apparently can make your computer run faster if it's dying | 17:25 |
| DashiePie | great | 17:25 |
| DashiePie | the 16th is when I get my new parts, so I don't even feel the need | 17:25 |
| DashiePie | I'm done with this shit | 17:25 |
| fsmithred | what would happen if you had a power supply that expected 50Hz but you ran it on 60Hz? | 18:23 |
| fsmithred | would everything run 20% faster? | 18:23 |
| debdog | that _really_ depends on the PS. | 18:32 |
| debdog | with a transformer one which outputs DC you're prolly fine | 18:32 |
| debdog | with a SMPS it depends on its tolerance (is the proper english word?) | 18:34 |
| debdog | moving to OT.... | 18:35 |
| debdog | the system clock runs even if the 'puter is not pluggen in. meaning: it's powered by the BIOS battery and thus is independend of the power grid's freq and power supply | 18:50 |
| debdog | well, at least usually™ | 19:01 |
| Akuli | does anyone know how to install llvmpipe? i'd like to do some software rendering on a laptop where the gpu driver dpesm | 21:57 |
| Akuli | ...doesn't support opengl 3.x (pressed enter accidentally) | 21:57 |
| Akuli | i found a ppa, but it's for ubuntu, and i also tried compiling it myself but i get errors and figured maybe i shouldn't go down that route | 21:58 |
| Akuli | nevermind, it turns out to be already working :D all it took was "MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=llvmpipe ./program" | 22:08 |
| raindodger | Does anyone know if runit provides a command that functions similarly to sysvinit's --status-all command? | 23:20 |
| raindodger | I'm looking for a way to list all of the services that could be running and how to know which actually are currently running and which aren't | 23:21 |
| Tenkawa | raindodger: in another distro they used this example : sv status /var/service/* (not sure if devuan puts the paths in same spot or not) | 23:39 |
| raindodger | Thank you Tenkawa. I'll give it a go | 23:49 |
| Tenkawa | good luck | 23:52 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!
