| Kitty | how does apt work without gpg installed? | 17:34 |
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| djph | Kitty: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "poorly" | 17:38 |
| djph | ... more likely "not at all" | 17:38 |
| Kitty | it works just fine, but when I go to use apt-keys it says no gpg is installed | 17:38 |
| djph | is't apt-key deprecated | 17:38 |
| djph | ? | 17:38 |
| djph | anyway, default setup is that gpg/gpg2 is installed (even in netinst) ... least as far as I am aware | 17:39 |
| Kitty | yeah, this is what surprised me | 17:40 |
| djph | yeah, quick check is that the 'apt' package depends on gpg | 17:40 |
| Kitty | that is weird | 17:41 |
| Kitty | I have successfully got my own apt-repo working | 17:42 |
| Kitty | is there a standard way of distributing the key for a repo ? | 17:42 |
| djph | internet | 17:43 |
| djph | :D | 17:43 |
| djph | most devs seem to put it on their (project) website | 17:43 |
| Kitty | basically when I add a repo during install time, how do I make it not complain ? | 17:43 |
| djph | according to apt-key(8) ; stick the key into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ | 17:44 |
| Kitty | how? from within the installer... | 17:45 |
| djph | from what installer? | 17:45 |
| Kitty | devuan | 17:45 |
| Kitty | I get asked if I want to add extra media | 17:45 |
| djph | If I was adding your repo to my system | 17:45 |
| Kitty | I'd like to add my own repo here | 17:46 |
| djph | (1) grab your key from your website | 17:46 |
| Kitty | is that possible ? | 17:46 |
| djph | no | 17:46 |
| Kitty | ok | 17:46 |
| djph | at least insofar as I understand the installer -- "extra media" is for getting a couple non-free packages installed at setup time, like for my wifi card. | 17:47 |
| djph | it's not for adding another repo | 17:47 |
| Kitty | aag | 17:51 |
| Kitty | aah | 17:51 |
| Kitty | even | 17:51 |
| fsmithred | there's a question in the beginning of the installer about removable media to provide missing firmware, and you can almost always ignore that. There's another question about additional media, and that's for CD1, CD2, etc. | 18:06 |
| Kitty | in the installer when it asks for a proxy, where does that end up in the config after the install? | 18:08 |
| GyrosGeier | should be in /etc/environment or something such | 18:18 |
| GyrosGeier | the http_proxy variable can be used to inform programs of a proxy | 18:18 |
| Kitty | what's the largest debian package you can think of ? | 18:57 |
| Kitty | something with minimal dependencies ideally... | 18:57 |
| Kitty | openjdk, that's a biggen | 19:02 |
| Kitty | yep, definetly going over the new link | 19:04 |
| Kitty | sooo much quicker | 19:04 |
| gordonDrogon | trying to migrate a Debian Bullseye to Devuan Chimera and for reference, this does not work: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera | 20:14 |
| fsmithred | gordonDrogon, where is it hanging up? | 20:15 |
| gordonDrogon | no init | 20:15 |
| fsmithred | did you try to install eudev and sysvinit-core? That page was modified a few weeks ago. Maybe you need to refresh it in your browser. | 20:16 |
| gordonDrogon | I'm trying to do this on a remote VPS if that helps (or not). gone through it twice now in-case I missed something. first time I've been to that page. | 20:17 |
| fsmithred | well, it was modified to address the issue you are facing: no init | 20:17 |
| gordonDrogon | going to go back a step and re-install the vps with buster to see if that's different | 20:17 |
| golinux | fsmithred: Isn't this specifically what rrq's script was meant to fix? | 20:20 |
| fsmithred | gordonDrogon, take a look at this upgrade script for hints: https://git.devuan.org/rrq/buster-to-devuan/src/branch/master | 20:21 |
| gordonDrogon | thanks. working through this now: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/buster-to-beowulf.html | 20:21 |
| gordonDrogon | if it fails I'll look at that in a bit. | 20:22 |
| gordonDrogon | that's done the same - not installed /sbin/init | 20:23 |
| gordonDrogon | manually installed apt-get install init ... it's rebooted but stalls at [ ok ] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. | 20:29 |
| gordonDrogon | 20:29 | |
| gordonDrogon | although I can ping it. bother. | 20:29 |
| * gordonDrogon reinstalls it again. I'm trying to get my VPS host to have Devuan available along with everything else, but it's not boding well. | 20:30 | |
| gordonDrogon | tried the sctipt way now. still stall at starting sshd. it's locked solid, but can ping. now to find a VPS host in the UK that supports devuan - any clues? | 20:39 |
| gordonDrogon | ok. I think I know what's going on - if anyone cares - this VPS has a "serial" console on /dev/ttyS0 and there was no entry for that in the /etc/inittab that was installed, so while it looked like it stalled on starting sshd, the reality was that it was up and running at that point and I could SSH into it - just no root console on the VPS providers virtual serial console tron. | 20:44 |
| gordonDrogon | let me redo it to try the page going from Bullseye to Chimera... (with a manual apt-get install init before rebooting) | 20:46 |
| golinux | Have you looked at the script linked at the bottom of https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera? https://git.devuan.org/rrq/buster-to-devuan/src/branch/master | 20:52 |
| golinux | gordonDrogon: ^^^ | 20:53 |
| gordonDrogon | yes. see my comments above. | 20:54 |
| golinux | Hope things go better this time . . . | 20:55 |
| gordonDrogon | root@broom:~# cat /etc/devuan_version | 20:55 |
| gordonDrogon | chimaera | 20:55 |
| gordonDrogon | so the thing missing from the webpage (maybe the script too) was 2 things, one I did apt-get install init right before the reboot, also (2) editing /etc/inittab to fire up a serial console, but I suspect that's only applicable to my particular VPS. | 20:56 |
| fsmithred | I've had better luck installing sysvinit-core before changing sources.list, but keep systemd running until the upgrade is done and you reboot. | 21:00 |
| gordonDrogon | just about to reboot ... | 21:01 |
| gordonDrogon | no network, but I have a console. looks like the virtual network device which was 'ens2' is now 'eth0'. | 21:03 |
| gordonDrogon | aaaaaand relax... | 21:04 |
| gordonDrogon | all because my wife wanted her own vps for her website as it's somewhat slow and clunky on the one we currently share... | 21:05 |
| gordonDrogon | should anyone care: https://unicorn.drogon.net/deb2dev.txt | 21:07 |
| gordonDrogon | and now for some supper. | 21:08 |
| gordonDrogon | thanks! | 21:08 |
| gordonDrogon | bloody hell. more command bloat. Who's idea was it to make commands auto-page now and require --no-pager option. FFS! (I know this isn't devuan, but I just wanted to complain somewhere!) | 23:37 |
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