libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2022-01-18

bb|hcbadhoc: I'll try to get one, that really looks promising to me... Will report here after I get some results with it02:26
qwestionbb|hcb, adhoc: keep in mind 1ghz cores means slow for single core apps02:39
adhocsure02:39
adhocifthe workload is a lots of parallel/asymetric/distributed/unrelated processes,02:40
adhocthat would suit me fine =)02:40
qwestionhttps://www.cnx-software.com/2018/12/26/banana-pi-24-core-arm-server/ similar board not sure how to buy though, and banana pi not very detailed docs02:41
adhocwould be nice if I could find a source direct from country of origin, rather than paying american tax, plus shipping out of the US, plus import tax ...02:44
adhocbecause shipping out the US is extortion at the moment and USPS does not ship here any more =(02:44
bb|hcbSynQuacer is shipped from Yokohama, Japan...02:45
adhocfor servers, ATX or don't bother?02:45
adhocbb|hcb: i could not find a buy option though?02:46
bb|hcbI have ordered the plain motherboard (they promised some free DRAM included)02:46
bb|hcbIn EU there is 0 duty, only some VAT02:46
adhocout of Japan would be fine, so long as there were non-US postal options02:47
adhochttps://socionextus.com/products/synquacer-edge-server/02:48
adhoconly has chipstop as a purchase option02:48
bb|hcbLooked like they ship worldwide (they=chip1shop.com)02:48
adhochmm ... 600AUD02:50
bb|hcbadd 60USD shipping and subtract 20USD new user coupon02:51
adhoc60USD to the EU ?02:52
adhocI can't find out where that is listed on the site...02:52
adhocanyhow, I have forwarded it off to folks that would be itnerested, and would likely buy more than one =)02:53
qwestionhttps://developer.solid-run.com/knowledge-base/honeycomb-clearfog-cx-installation-and-tips/ there's this too, instructions to install gentoo Debian from default Ubuntu image cheaper faster 8weeks to order02:55
qwestionbb|hcb, adhoc: are you compiling for arm? I not, better value w x866402:55
qwestionS/I/if02:56
adhocwe should take this to -offtopic02:56
golinuxadhoc: Thank you.02:57
qwestionadhoc: I'm having issues joining, from xmpp02:58
bb|hcbMy plan is to see how would a devuan desktop run on that, but lets see. And for compiling - the more obscure arches you compile some soft on, the more bugs pop out...02:59
qwestionCool, I'll be afk for 1hr, but will try to join ot03:00
adhocgolinux: sorry03:45
adhocbb|hcb: I am interested in that 24 core A53 as a build server, for work and home projects03:46
golinuxadhoc: Why are you sorry for me thanking you for suggesting to move to OT?03:52
adhocbb|hcb: assuming you can find a kernel package from devuan, debian or similar to boot that desktop up for the first time, you should have not problems getting a build environment up and running.04:01
* adhoc is unsure about what desktop environments would run, what X11 supports. All my arm machines are servers.04:02
adhocgolinux: got to get back into the habbit of moving non-support chatter to devuan-offtopic04:02
adhocwith the summer break, all good habbits went out the window.04:03
qwestionKm in ot04:09
qwestionIm04:09
qwestionadhoc, bb|hcb:04:10
golinuxadhoc . . . No worries . . .04:11
golinuxAnd in case you've forgotten . . . there is also a #devuan-arm channel though I haven't been there for a long time.04:12
adhocgolinux: have not forgotten =)04:36
PeterghHi, I want to move from debian to devuan but have 2 questions before I go10:47
PeterghI have some containers build with systemd tools10:47
Peterghcan I convert those to other container technique?10:48
Petergh2e is display quality, with nvidea card devuan does not look good out of the box10:49
Peterghin debian I use the debian drivers10:50
gnarfacethere are containers that work on devuan and don't require systemd, though i can't speak for any auto-conversion10:50
gnarfacedevuan should use the same kernel and drivers as debian on i386 and amd6410:50
gnarfacemake sure you installed the nvidia drivers from non-free and make sure you added yourself to the video group10:50
Peterghok10:52
raindodger@Petergh What do you mean by containers?10:58
GyrosGeiersystemd can isolate a process in its own namespace11:16
GyrosGeiersame way docker does, but the container will have systemd services available11:16
GyrosGeierand it looks like a normal service from outside11:16
Peterghdocker I never looked into it11:26
Peterghit is the preferred method in devuan circles?11:27
djphPetergh: "preferred" might be a bit of a stretch.  personally, I'm looking into k8s11:51
adhocPetergh: I build containers on devuan (for work) with systemd stuff inside, not using systemd on the host OS11:57
adhocbuild everything from my own Dockerfiles11:57

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